Congratulations Canon to another great Camera release!!

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I was thinking of maybe a baby DSLR for convenience. BUT, no AFMA no sale. Canon, you just lost a potential sale because you don't realize that the baby DSLR could be for newbies and advanced users who want portability.
 
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My reactions are mixed:

T5i - WTF!

SL1 - will probably sell well, but not the camera for me

Power shot 280 - looks like a nice camera.... I have been waiting to replace my p/s and this looks like it will do.
 
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dunkers said:

Well, that pretty much confirms it to me. Looks pretty much like my 550d; I can already see the hallmark red/green blotches of pattern noise without even attempting to lift the shadows.

Let's hope they'll do better on the 70d. I don't see why they couldn't. From what I've seen, this problem is much better controlled on the 5d3/6d?
 
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Don Haines said:
My reactions are mixed:

T5i - WTF!

SL1 - will probably sell well, but not the camera for me

Power shot 280 - looks like a nice camera.... I have been waiting to replace my p/s and this looks like it will do.

Keep in mind that the Canon is targeting low end amateurs (spelling?) with the T5i and needs to introduce new cameras, if only to keep people interested and to appear to be improving their line up (to compete with Nikon, ...). Many camera buyers are not knowledge and they either will go to the store for advice and ask for the latest model (or the salesman will say this model is only 3 month old - implication that newer is better) or check out sites like dpreview.com and look at dates and stars. newer is always better, all things being equal.

Unfortunately those of us (very numerous on this site but not in the gen pop) buy high end equipment but make a small fraction of sales for Canon, Nikon, ...
 
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Always funny to see people complaining that the new low-end camera aren't focused on professionals users needs. The fact is that both these camera's target audience are amateurs who just what to make a few good looking picture easily. The great majority of them have no idea what are AFMA, DR or other. The thing they will see, though, is that they can get just as good picture from this camera that the last model but it is of smaller size, so it is more portable and more practical for them.
Although some might fell "cheated" by Canon, just remember that it is a corporation; its only goal is to make profits, just like any other corporation. They are making the products they think will sale best, and according to the success of those low-end camera, it seems they are doing a good job in it.
 
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OK, now I'm baffled. This now gives me four alternatives - T3i, T4i, T5i and Twhatever - with very little difference - specs, price, capability - between them. Canon must have a plan, but right now it looks
to me like different internal development groups were set loose and everything was released. The new "baby" Rebel doesn't look small enough to draw m4/3 users, the new standard Rebel doesn't have enough "new" features to draw upgrade users. To quote the king of Siam, "tis a puzzlement!"
The new lens looks promising though, particularly for video users.
 
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The biggest laugh in all of this is I just checked my local canon website and the line up has removed the 650d but kept the 600d..... obviously this is just a ploy to keep the prices inflated with the "new" model.
 
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Freelancer said:
Artifex said:
Always funny to see people complaining that the new low-end camera aren't focused on professionals users needs. The fact is that both these camera's target audience are amateurs who just what to make a few good looking picture easily. The great majority of them have no idea what are AFMA, DR or other. The thing they will see, though, is that they can get just as good picture from this camera that the last model but it is of smaller size, so it is more portable and more practical for them.
Although some might fell "cheated" by Canon, just remember that it is a corporation; its only goal is to make profits, just like any other corporation. They are making the products they think will sale best, and according to the success of those low-end camera, it seems they are doing a good job in it.

nonsense....

the complains are about that canon sells a camera as NEW that has barely anything new on it.

What is funny is that people seems surprise. As stated before, the reason Canon does camera is to make profits. The low-ends body always get yearly release because this is how the market work. This is a bit like complaining that the Toyota Yaris 2013 is pretty much identical to the Toyota Yaris 2012; cars get yearly release, even though significant changes are only made every now and then. The same marketing logic is apply to consumers camera. The fact is it take lots of years of research to significally improve technology. Furthermore, I don't think lots of people upgrades from a XXXd camera to another one, and if so, I can only guess it can take quite a few years. Those camera aren't made for people who own a 600d or 650d, they are made for people who owns P&S and what something better. People who already own a XXXd are more likely to keep it for quite a few years if it fits there needs, or upgrade to XXd or Xd if not.
 
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Artifex said:
....This is a bit like complaining that the Toyota Yaris 2013 is pretty much identical to the Toyota Yaris 2012; cars get yearly release, even though significant changes are only made every now and then.
And for a lot of folks, that Yaris is just fine, does what they need. There are appropriately priced high-end models available for those that want them. The car-camera analogy is exactly what I've been thinking.
 
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Freelancer said:
Artifex said:
Always funny to see people complaining that the new low-end camera aren't focused on professionals users needs. The fact is that both these camera's target audience are amateurs who just what to make a few good looking picture easily. The great majority of them have no idea what are AFMA, DR or other. The thing they will see, though, is that they can get just as good picture from this camera that the last model but it is of smaller size, so it is more portable and more practical for them.
Although some might fell "cheated" by Canon, just remember that it is a corporation; its only goal is to make profits, just like any other corporation. They are making the products they think will sale best, and according to the success of those low-end camera, it seems they are doing a good job in it.

nonsense....

the complains are about that canon sells a camera as NEW that has barely anything new on it.

Car manufacturers do it all the time from model year to model year, especially their bottom line series of cars.... It's a beginners camera... dont get your panties in a twist...
 
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dickgrafixstop said:
Interesting Graphic

It is interesting -- thanks for posting. Add an EVF and some dials to the EOS-M and the length and width are similar. The depth is bit larger to accomodate the mirror box, but then you also get a useable grip and phase detect AF. Definitely wouldn't mind having one as a backup camera -- wouldn't take up much space in the camera bag.
 
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awinphoto said:
Freelancer said:
Artifex said:
Always funny to see people complaining that the new low-end camera aren't focused on professionals users needs. The fact is that both these camera's target audience are amateurs who just what to make a few good looking picture easily. The great majority of them have no idea what are AFMA, DR or other. The thing they will see, though, is that they can get just as good picture from this camera that the last model but it is of smaller size, so it is more portable and more practical for them.
Although some might fell "cheated" by Canon, just remember that it is a corporation; its only goal is to make profits, just like any other corporation. They are making the products they think will sale best, and according to the success of those low-end camera, it seems they are doing a good job in it.

nonsense....

the complains are about that canon sells a camera as NEW that has barely anything new on it.

Car manufacturers do it all the time from model year to model year, especially their bottom line series of cars.... It's a beginners camera... dont get your panties in a twist...

X1000

It's a just a Rebel, they come out like clockwork, and the changes have always been minor from year to year.
 
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Random Orbits said:
dickgrafixstop said:
Interesting Graphic

It is interesting -- thanks for posting. Add an EVF and some dials to the EOS-M and the length and width are similar. The depth is bit larger to accomodate the mirror box, but then you also get a useable grip and phase detect AF. Definitely wouldn't mind having one as a backup camera -- wouldn't take up much space in the camera bag.
+1
 
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