D850 marketing materials leaked

Rough translation:

- 45.75M
- 9 fps * MB-D18 + EN-EN18a
- 8K timelapse
- 4K movie
- ISO 64-25600
- 3.2" 2.36M vari-angle touch screen
- 153 AF system
- 45M quiet shooting mode
- 0.75x OVF magnification
- 180,000 RGB sensor

So 45 MP x 9 fps X D5 AF it indeed appears to be it, but those SKUs after 9 fps above imply the grip may be needed to pull that off.

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Yowza -- onboard and automated focus-stacking?

Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus (<-- ahsanford emphasis)
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry, specimen and landscape

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Wow. This is an epic leak. Tons of info.

Other stuff:

* wireless flash control is not onboard, they still point you to their separate transmitter
* responsible ISO limits have been restored (a return to sanity after the nonsense of the D5/D500)
* backlit keys (expected)
* new quiet shooting mode which appears to be 100% liveview based -- now at 6 fps (an improvement for them)
* tilty-flippy touchscreen (expected)
* some form of electronic shutter in conjunction with the mechanical one exists, I don't see the fine print on that yet

Check it out. Biggest news is the res / fps / throughput was not a rumor -- it is very real -- and the built in focus stacking could be a godsend to product folks.

But the res X fps bit cannot be overstated. This rig would seem to be aimed at the 5DS rigs and the 5D4.

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BeenThere said:
Will be interesting to see the price and if Canon will feel a need to respond in kind.

Best guess, they'll come in around the 5D4 price. Just a gut feeling. The pitch would be 'you can get a 5D4 for that price, or you can a 5D4 with +15 MP, +2 fps, tilty-flippy, + 90 or so AF points, plus a better silent shutter, plus, plus plus...'

Don't know if it will work, but it's a formidable value proposition.

Only major thing I haven't seen is the 4K fine print. It just says 4K right now -- no info on crop or anything.

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Talys said:
Continuous focus sounds awesome, but implementation will be everything. Eager to see how it actually works!

By the way, sweet leak. Thanks for pointing it out! :D

If you are referring to the focus-stacking, 95% of us won't care while 5% of us will be doing a happy dance. I've dabbled with focus-stacking -- it's impressive for product/macro work -- but it's a really PITA to actually do and shoot. Anything that automates that could be gold.

Sorry to be so bullish on this new rig. I'm not buying it of course, but I'm curious/excited to see what a desperate #2/#3 in the market will do with their flagship non-gripped rig.

I have to say it: not bad, Nikon. Don't eff it up with quality issues or an insane asking price, and this will keep your faithful happy.

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ahsanford said:
Talys said:
Continuous focus sounds awesome, but implementation will be everything. Eager to see how it actually works!

By the way, sweet leak. Thanks for pointing it out! :D

If you are referring to the focus-stacking, 95% of us won't care while 5% of us will be doing a happy dance. I've dabbled with focus-stacking -- it's impressive for product/macro work -- but it's a really PITA to actually do and shoot. Anything that automates that could be gold.

Sorry to be so bullish on this new rig. I'm not buying it of course, but I'm curious/excited to see what a desperate #2/#3 in the market will do with their flagship non-gripped rig.

I have to say it: not bad, Nikon. Don't eff it up with quality issues or an insane asking price, and this will keep your faithful happy.

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You don't have to apologise for being bullish, assuming this leak is genuine (and I see no reason to think that it isn't) this is stacking up to be pretty much the last word in DSLRs. To be honest, when this is combined with Nikon's superb new 70-200 f/2.8E, I am very tempted... The 5DS Mk2 best be something very special (stands by for incoming! )
 
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and semi profile portraits wide open with F1.4 lens, etc.
ahsanford said:
Yowza -- onboard and automated focus-stacking?

Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus (<-- ahsanford emphasis)
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry, specimen and landscape,

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ahsanford said:
Yowza -- onboard and automated focus-stacking?

Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus (<-- ahsanford emphasis)
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry, specimen and landscape

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Sounds like you need 3rd party software (* require software from other companies) to actually create the final image. The camera apparently uses focus bracketing to take the (up to 300) shots.

Olympus has had this feature on their E-M1 for a couple years now, and supposedly (if I read their material correctly) will do the stacking in-camera - but (and it is a big but) only with select lenses. Unfortunately, not any of the lenses that I have, or I could give you a review of how well it works!
 
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dak723 said:
ahsanford said:
Yowza -- onboard and automated focus-stacking?

Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus (<-- ahsanford emphasis)
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry, specimen and landscape

- A

Sounds like you need 3rd party software (* require software from other companies) to actually create the final image. The camera apparently uses focus bracketing to take the (up to 300) shots.

I think that's just their way of saying they don't process the stack of shots in-camera. That would be insane to do -- 300 shots?! Ouch.

I know there are 3rd party tools that specialize in stacking, but can't you just run some of the photomerge routines in PS?

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@ashanford - yeah, first cuz stacking and dual iso are two things I'd like to play with, though practically, I don't know that it will be commercially useful.

45MP, I'm more ambivalent about. A day's work on a 5DSR versus 5D4 convinced me that 50MP is not for me, at least for now. The RAW files are just bigger and slower to process than I have use for. The exception would be bird crops, but the problem is, I am an OVF guy for that sort of thing, and on a 5DSR, the subject is too small in the viewfinder to know what I'm shooting. I still prefer APSC for that if I need the extra reach, even if I could squeeze more megapixels out of the body.

Of course, a bigger lens would fix that, but I an not rich enough to buy what I'd want, or strong enough to lift it around :D

No need to be a apologetic that Nikon seems to be coming out with a neat body; competition I good, and ultimately it will give us all better value, one way or the other!
 
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Wow. Very impressive specs, hope it won't have as many fine prints as some Sony cameras. It may also offer the auto-AFMA function, similar to the D500/D5.
Canon should definitely respond with a 5dsr 2 or I'm jumping the ship. Just kidding :)
 
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ahsanford said:
BeenThere said:
Will be interesting to see the price and if Canon will feel a need to respond in kind.

Best guess, they'll come in around the 5D4 price. Just a gut feeling. The pitch would be 'you can get a 5D4 for that price, or you can a 5D4 with +15 MP, +2 fps, tilty-flippy, + 90 or so AF points, plus a better silent shutter, plus, plus plus...'

Don't know if it will work, but it's a formidable value proposition.

Only major thing I haven't seen is the 4K fine print. It just says 4K right now -- no info on crop or anything.

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I wouldn't cry if it causes the 5D4 price to get slashed...
 
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ahsanford said:
dak723 said:
ahsanford said:
Yowza -- onboard and automated focus-stacking?

Focus adjusting system could offer you deeply stacked* picture
* require software from other companies
- Camera will continuously take the nearest focus to infinite focus (<-- ahsanford emphasis)
- Max nomber of photos: 300 photos
- Focus distance interval could be customized (10 steps)
- Shutter release could be customized (0 to 30 sec)
- Continuous shooting around 5 fps
- Suitable for shooting jewelry, specimen and landscape

- A

Sounds like you need 3rd party software (* require software from other companies) to actually create the final image. The camera apparently uses focus bracketing to take the (up to 300) shots.

I think that's just their way of saying they don't process the stack of shots in-camera. That would be insane to do -- 300 shots?! Ouch.

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Yes, just checking the Olympus photo stacking - I believe the in-camera photo stacking is limited to 8 images. Their photo bracketing does up to 999 shots.

So, already, Nikon is WAY behind... ;D ;D ;D
 
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Nikon seems to go all in with this one!

What I envy the Nikon shooters for is first and foremost the 0,75X viewfinder. That is almost 1DX size, and noticeably larger than the 5D's at 0,72X. I hope Canon will increase their viewfinder sizes in the future.
 
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