Dan Chung Talks EOS-1D X Video

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AG said:
The problem is we don't know what the boffins in their white coats have been cooking up in the labs.

If you watch the video the rep mentions a few times that the 1DX is a PRO Photography DSLR camera, the video was extra.
He makes that point clear a few times.
This is why it sounds to me like they are going to try and release a PRO Video DSLR e.g. the next 5D model being that its been accepted unofficially by the industry as being the video DSLR of choice already.

You mention line skipping but as they said in the video that it has been reduced dramatically with the new sensor, remember that this is the Photo DSLR, it then makes me wonder what the Video version could achieve.


I think the line skipping has been reduced(certainly in the 1Dx) because of better/more processors. They cant give a 5D this type of fire power in 4k or it will be essentially capable of faster fps of stills as the 1dX

You have a good point about the brand name of 5D for the video industry. Maybe we see a 5Dmkii-s that is video dedicated. However, I don't think that's in the lineup for nov 2. I think Canon needs to hit the Red scarlet from above and below in terms of pricing/features, and I think they will.
 
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i mean, this is a Photo Camera, and all i hear is about video and video.
And don't misunderstand me. I like that we can have video as well, but like the canon guy in the video says, it seems they actually don't know what they are doing and where to go next.

Like we all know a good photo is one with a strong subject and it seems to me we can make an analogy with this whole thing as well.

We are talking about the 1D X, then Canon should concentrate on photography. If we were interested in Video we would have bought a video camera instead.
 
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nikkito said:
i mean, this is a Photo Camera, and all i hear is about video and video.
And don't misunderstand me. I like that we can have video as well, but like the canon guy in the video says, it seems they actually don't know what they are doing and where to go next.

Like we all know a good photo is one with a strong subject and it seems to me we can make an analogy with this whole thing as well.

We are talking about the 1D X, then Canon should concentrate on photography. If we were interested in Video we would have bought a video camera instead.

I guess Canon has themselves in a bit of a pickle by putting video on a high end camera like this. It should be good, but at the same time, it's as if any resources dedicated to video on this camera are an insult to people who want the best possible pictures for the money.
 
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nikkito said:
i mean, this is a Photo Camera, and all i hear is about video and video.

WHAT?!?! Dan Chung, who is a video shooter, made a video about the 1D X, and all he talks about is video? Whats going on?!?!?!?!

Did you really expect him to dive deeply into the stills side of the camera? ::)
 
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bp said:
nikkito said:
i mean, this is a Photo Camera, and all i hear is about video and video.

WHAT?!?! Dan Chung, who is a video shooter, made a video about the 1D X, and all he talks about is video? Whats going on?!?!?!?!

Did you really expect him to dive deeply into the stills side of the camera? ::)

I'm not talking about this video in particular. This one just made me write that because I can't take it anymore :(
 
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bp said:
nikkito said:
i mean, this is a Photo Camera, and all i hear is about video and video.

WHAT?!?! Dan Chung, who is a video shooter, made a video about the 1D X, and all he talks about is video? Whats going on?!?!?!?!

Did you really expect him to dive deeply into the stills side of the camera? ::)

+1
We can't expect more than incremental improvements in stills technology, but video tech is burgeoning.

Let's not forget we've been sort of scraping the ceiling on stills tech here for a long, long time...nobody really needs anything more than 12-15mp (we've had over 21 for years now). With RAW, we've got more DR than film. Not sure why everyone's looking for nightvision ISO in these cameras...if you want to shoot in moonlight, stop up to 1.4. AF is fine.
As far as stills go (and that's the majority of my work), I'm more than satisfied with my 5D and 7D. The video, however is nascent, and has a LOT of room for immediate improvement. That's why we're more concerned with this right now. The 5DII marked a legitimate revolution in filmmaking...giving us a cheap, fat sensor to put behind our amazing lenses. The stills revolution has long-since passed. Now it's just gonna be minor upgrades that we don't really need.

Only wanna shoot stills? Go grab one of the dozen or so professional-grade models that have already existed for a decade and shoot your heart out :)
 
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SlothLovesChunk said:
Not sure why everyone's looking for nightvision ISO in these cameras...if you want to shoot in moonlight, stop up to 1.4. AF is fine.

I was trying to shoot by firelight earlier this evening. 5DII, 35mm f/1.4L, AF was not fine - it managed maybe one lock in 10 tries. Contrast detect (Live View) was a little better, 3-4 locks in 10 tries. No where near enough light in the VF to focus (but I didn't have the Eg-S installed, that might have helped). Exposure simulation in Live View was inadequate for MF.

I needed ISO 12800 or 25600 for shutter speeds that were barely adequate for almost still or slowly moving subjects, even at f/1.4.

If the extra 1.5 stops of low light AF performance on the 1D X (vs. 5DII) is real, and if the suggested 2-stop ISO improvement is real (i.e. ISO 12800 on the 1D X is similar to ISO 3200 on the 5DII), that would have been a big help tonight...
 
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astrocrab said:
nikkito said:
If we were interested in Video we would have bought a video camera instead.

oh, really? why not to use canon a800 for still picture?
many of us are interested in high quality video not less than in high quality photoes.

Have to agree with astrocrab on this one.....kinda!

If you want to take 1/2 decent video then you take a dramatic hike in prices.

This was the beauty of EOS video, it allowed sensors closer to actual film dimensions at a fairly cheap price.
Plus it allows a very shallow depth of field that most budget videocameras can't even dream of getting.

As soon as you start buying "budget" video cameras that can do the same or similar style video of the EOS line your almost on a 1:1 $:$ outlay but with a camera twice the weight and 4x the bulk.
 
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