Snorkeling, it's only 33 ft!I’m reminded of watches I have had that were good down to 10 meters, but you shouldn’t wear them scuba diving. I wondered what you’d be doing 10 meters under water otherwise.
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Snorkeling, it's only 33 ft!I’m reminded of watches I have had that were good down to 10 meters, but you shouldn’t wear them scuba diving. I wondered what you’d be doing 10 meters under water otherwise.
Thanks Private By Design, and I always appreciate your support with the video and autofocus stuff , and I will head over to Alan F post on the 90DWelcome back Grant! Your input has been missed and I have commented on it, I also link to your AF videos on YouTube whenever relevant, which seems quite a lot!
I would have liked something closer to a 7D2 upgrade too, but I doubt we'll be getting one in DSLR form. I will go for a 90D because I need a new body for a trip next May and I won't be in the market for a 1DXiii or a mirrorless.I've been hoping for a 7D Mk III for the past year. Based on what I've read, the 90D is not a bad camera, by any stretch, but neither is it a real replacement for the 7D2. It's not as rugged, has 20 fewer AF points, lacks the dual card slots and 200k shutter life of even the 5-year-old 7D2. it just doesn't make business sense for Canon to kill off what was one of their best selling cameras and try to pawn off an updated 80D as a replacement for a pro-grade camera like the 7D2. I continue to hold out hope that Canon will release a true 7D Mk III next year; there is surely enough demand for it. I'd like to think they're just taking their time to make sure it ticks all the boxes for action/sports/wildlife shooters: improved resolution, perhaps the 32Mp sensor just released in the 90D; the AF system from the 1DxII (or 1DxIII) for faster focus, better low-light focus accuracy, and improved AI Servo tracking; significantly improved low-light/high ISO performance; 10-12 fps... dual Digic 8s would allow fast throughput even at 28-32Mp; dual card slots for backup recording; and proper weather sealing which the 90D seems to lack. Yeah, I know, that's quite a wish list, but those are features I'd love to see in a replacement for the 7D2.
All that said, if worst comes to worst, and Canon DOES abandon millions of 7D2 shooters who are eagerly awaiting a viable upgrade, I suppose the 90D could be pressed into service as a second-rate substitute, since it'd be cheaper than selling off my Canon gear and converting to Nikon... though the latter might be tempting. The 90D seems like it would address a FEW of the things I'd like to see in my next crop body, even though it'd be a significant step backward in terms of AF options and overall durability. But I'm gonna hold out a while longer and see if Canon is really foolish - or arrogant - enough to give the finger to millions of enthusiast and pro shooters and bail out of the high-end crop-sensor DSLR market, or if they're perhaps just taking their time, since the 7D2 was so successful, they want to make sure they get the Mk III right...
I don't have actual figures, so "millions" may be a bit of an exaggeration, but remember, the Mk II has been on the market for almost 5 years now, and it's one of Canon's most successful APS-c cameras. I wouldn't be at all surprised if global sales numbers have been well into 7 figures. And while mirrorless cameras are getting all the hype these days, they're really nothing more than the old digicams with newer guts and removable lenses. I personally detest EVFs, and I know I'm far from alone in the preference for a DSLR, particularly for fast-moving subjects with long lenses.I would have liked something closer to a 7D2 upgrade too, but I doubt we'll be getting one in DSLR form. I will go for a 90D because I need a new body for a trip next May and I won't be in the market for a 1DXiii or a mirrorless.
Millions of 7D2 shooters? How many copies do you reckon they've sold?
Yep, I am a fast-moving subject with a long lens.I don't have actual figures, so "millions" may be a bit of an exaggeration, but remember, the Mk II has been on the market for almost 5 years now, and it's one of Canon's most successful APS-c cameras. I wouldn't be at all surprised if global sales numbers have been well into 7 figures. And while mirrorless cameras are getting all the hype these days, they're really nothing more than the old digicams with newer guts and removable lenses. I personally detest EVFs, and I know I'm far from alone in the preference for a DSLR, particularly for fast-moving subjects with long lenses.
Free diving to 10 meters is fairly standard. Tbh 12-15 m is more the depth that most experienced free divers will get down to on a regular basis. The trick is making sure you have enough air to get back upI’m reminded of watches I have had that were good down to 10 meters, but you shouldn’t wear them scuba diving. I wondered what you’d be doing 10 meters under water otherwise.
it just doesn't make business sense for Canon to kill off what was one of their best selling cameras and try to pawn off an updated 80D as a replacement for a pro-grade camera like the 7D2.
I continue to hold out hope that Canon will release a true 7D Mk III next year; there is surely enough demand for it.
it just doesn't make business sense for Canon to kill off what was one of their best selling cameras and try to pawn off an updated 80D as a replacement for a pro-grade camera like the 7D2.
I've not seen a snorkel that long, but they must exist, or you wouldn't have mentioned it. Still I don't see why the watch would care how you are breathing when you are that deep. But at least if you are drowning, you can keep track of the time.Snorkeling, it's only 33 ft!
I went to a Kelby seminar in Charlotte back before the 7D2 came out. During the first break I found that I was sitting among folks who had sons who were playing high school football. They all either had a 7D or were aspiring to own one soon. I was shooting a T3i at the time and hadn't paid any attention to the differences between higher models up until then. If you think of the number of high school football players in the US, you could easily conclude that it wouldn't take a huge subset of their parents to make that model popular.I don't have actual figures, so "millions" may be a bit of an exaggeration, but remember, the Mk II has been on the market for almost 5 years now, and it's one of Canon's most successful APS-c cameras. I wouldn't be at all surprised if global sales numbers have been well into 7 figures. And while mirrorless cameras are getting all the hype these days, they're really nothing more than the old digicams with newer guts and removable lenses. I personally detest EVFs, and I know I'm far from alone in the preference for a DSLR, particularly for fast-moving subjects with long lenses.
No you couldn't breath through a snorkel if you were at 33ft and the snorkel was on the surface, the pressure differential would mean your lungs wouldn't have the sucking power. But when most people snorkel they duck down under the water and 33ft is a reasonable snorkel/reef depth that a large percentage of snorkelers would enjoy.I've not seen a snorkel that long, but they must exist, or you wouldn't have mentioned it. Still I don't see why the watch would care how you are breathing when you are that deep. But at least if you are drowning, you can keep track of the time.
I am very surprised they went with the lower number of AF points. Does the 45 from the 80D work better than the 65 from the 7Dii? Or is the 45 on the 90D all new?While the sensor may be better, it has fewer AF points and does not have a body that is robust enough to use as a hammer. My 7D2 has survived a lot of salt spray, -30C temperatures, and rain. That’s what the camera is for!
You can’t compare a 5 year old camera designed for one purpose to a new camera designed for another.
I am very surprised they went with the lower number of AF points. Does the 45 from the 80D work better than the 65 from the 7Dii? Or is the 45 on the 90D all new?
I am very surprised they went with the lower number of AF points. Does the 45 from the 80D work better than the 65 from the 7Dii? Or is the 45 on the 90D all new?
As Sharlin points out above, you have to consider that the actual AF depends on not just the number of points but also the data processing behind it in the camera. The 90D can do face detection and also has a new 220,000px RGB sensor that is used to enhance AF, with a faster processor (as well as having spot focus)Question #1: No (based on personal experience).
Question #2: No (based on Canon's description of the 90D AF system).
As Sharlin points out above, you have to consider that the actual AF depends on not just the number of points but also the data processing behind it in the camera. The 90D can do face detection and also has a new 220,000px RGB sensor that is used to enhance AF, with a faster processor (as well as having spot focus)
The AF in the 90D has been significantly improved over that in the 80D and my experience with the 90D is that it has more consistent AF than my old 7DII.EOS 90D Face Detect AF Viewfinder Shooting | Canon U.S.A., Inc.
EOS 90D face detect AF viewfinder shooting. Dive into the world of photography and explore Canon's collection of educational articles to inspire your creativity.www.usa.canon.com
My comments were not intended to contradict yours but were providing additional information, which might be of use to readers who were wondering whether the 90D has the same AF as the 80D.My answers said nothing about performance or processing in the 90D. The second question was about whether the 45 points in the 90D were the same or different than the 80D, not about whether the processing or overall performance was improved. They appear to use the same PDAF array. In time we'll be able to see if both use the same part number for the PDAF array.