DpReview posts 90% Score on Sony /RII - What will the 5DSR get?

[xps]

Review on D.Preview.com:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/16

90% Score.

What do you think about the still not published 5DSr-score? Which score will it be? 85%?

 

[beforeEos Camaras]

Review on D.Preview.com:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/16

90% Score.

What do you think about the still not published 5DSr-score? Which score will it be? 85%?

just more no love for Canon Camera's as Sony is the king long live the king.


its for those who love mirror less cameras I still love my loud mirror and ovf I am part of the rebellion rabble

 

[Don Haines]

Review on D.Preview.com:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/16

90% Score.

What do you think about the still not published 5DSr-score? Which score will it be? 85%?

The score will never be published as it beats Sony and DXO can never admit it......

 

[MrToes]

Review on D.Preview.com:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/16

90% Score.

What do you think about the still not published 5DSr-score? Which score will it be? 85%?

It is an absolutely amazing camera (5DS R)! I have shot five weddings with it so far and it amazes on every aspect! Should be above the Sony, unless they are biased?

 

[MickDK]

It is an absolutely amazing camera (5DS R)! I have shot five weddings with it so far and it amazes on every aspect! Should be above the Sony, unless they are biased?

IMHO not if you compare feature set and IQ. Did you read the review? Have you tried the A7R II?

 

[MrToes]

It is an absolutely amazing camera (5DS R)! I have shot five weddings with it so far and it amazes on every aspect! Should be above the Sony, unless they are biased?

IMHO not if you compare feature set and IQ. Did you read the review? Have you tried the A7R II?

Apparently you haven't tried paid work with one?

 

[xps]

I would like to know, what the test on this sub-site does mean? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/6
Raw DR: Exposure Latitude

Does this test show the ability to underexpose/overexpose the picture in e.g. lightroom without getting to much noise into it? Or what else?

Tx

 

[bedford]

The 7D II got 84%, so the 5 DS R will get a lower score. After all it's only an incremental improvement over the 5D III...

 

[bedford]

I would like to know, what the test on this sub-site does mean? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-7r-ii/6
Raw DR: Exposure Latitude

Does this test show the ability to underexpose/overexpose the picture in e.g. lightroom without getting to much noise into it? Or what else?

Tx

It does show the ability to recover shadows in post-processing. This might be useful after you have accidentally or deliberately (to preserve highlights) under-exposed your image (or part of it).

The test does not make any statements about how much blown-out highlights you might get or how much you could overexpose manually when taking the shot.

 

[PhotographyFirst]

DPR has hot eager genitals for smaller cameras with lots of cool sounding features. That's just their thing. They do not come across as people who desire workflow, ease of use, ergonomics, reliability and that sort of stuff over specs and shadow lifting.

Anyone who makes their decisions based on DPR scores, deserves to spend their hard-earned money on something that may or may not actually work best for them.

 

[Larsskv]

DPR has hot eager genitals for smaller cameras with lots of cool sounding features. That's just their thing. They do not come across as people who desire workflow, ease of use, ergonomics, reliability and that sort of stuff over specs and shadow lifting.

Anyone who makes their decisions based on DPR scores, deserves to spend their hard-earned money on something that may or may not actually work best for them.

I agree! DPR doesn't value user friendliness, ergonomics and the overall shooting experience. If my camera was full of bugs, slow etc, it would kill the fun of taking pictures. I love my Canons for never getting in my way. All I need to focus on, is taking the shot. The camera disappears between my hands.

 

[MickDK]

It is an absolutely amazing camera (5DS R)! I have shot five weddings with it so far and it amazes on every aspect! Should be above the Sony, unless they are biased?

IMHO not if you compare feature set and IQ. Did you read the review? Have you tried the A7R II?

Apparently you haven't tried paid work with one?

But you did? I had the 5D3 but sold it - after getting the A7R II it I never used it anymore. No camera is perfect but the A7R II allows me to do a lot of things that was just impossible with 5D3 and most possibly also the 5Ds). I'm sure that if I was doing BIF I'd keep the 5D3 for that - but I'm in to landscape, street and portrait - for which the A7R II is very good indeed. I may buy the 5DIV when it comes but I just got tired of waiting for Canon to catch up. You milage may vary and that's just okay - good for you.

 

[martti]

Why is it important?
Photographers do not buy sensors. They want functional cameras with real lenses and knobs and buttons and menus they can find whatever the situation might be. I have a 5D3 and I could imagine switching to a Nikon D810 but never, not ever to something by Sony. Sony is brilliant with electronics and microengineering. Sony is nul (like in 'zero') in software, user interface and reliability. I have had three Sony telephones two of which just bricked for no reason at all, a Sony TV that took two hours to get online, upgraded and everything...user account for a TV? Yes, sir...and I've got the A6000 also. I will not buy another Sony piece of engineering, ever.

It is OK for me that some people take beautiful pictures with their 3200-dollar Sony 7 alpha whatever.
So much better if you have found the Right Thing. Enjoy! Why does the Sony fanboys have to behave like some crazy Shias or Sunnis, as if it was a question of getting to Paradise or not? Shoot away, collect your money and prizes. Eventually, others will –God willing– follow.

 

[StudentOfLight]

5Ds-R will get 86% (the 5Ds will get 87%)

 

[Larsskv]

DPR has hot eager genitals for smaller cameras with lots of cool sounding features. That's just their thing. They do not come across as people who desire workflow, ease of use, ergonomics, reliability and that sort of stuff over specs and shadow lifting.

If you've ever read a dpreview review in detail then you would know that their review is based on much more than just "how does it work in the lab." They go out and use it in public places (see images added to the review.) Of course they cannot rate "reliability" as that can only be done after you've been using it for sufficient time as to have an opinion of that (which is at odds with providing a current and timely review of anything.)

Lets see, what's mentioned in the "Cons" section of the A7RII (for example):
* No direct AF point control
* Lock-on AF still remains unpredictable and often unreliable

And down the bottom, you can see their relative rating of "Ergonomics and Handling." It is also rather easy to compare their A7RII review scores with that of (say) the 5DIII (which scores significantly better in "Ergonomics and Handling".) The thing is, there is more to a camera than just "Ergonomics and Handling." And for all those that love how good the focusing is on the 5DIII, dpreview feel that the A7RII focus accuracy and metering accuracy is better.

Maybe you should spend time reading an entire dpreview review rather than just looking at "headlines."

You are right that DPR mention a lot of cons with the A7RII, but in my opinion, those cons should lower their rating, and make it impossible to achieve the 90% score.

 

[3kramd5]

* No direct AF point control

And for me it's a HUGE con. The propensity of the camera to jump to another menu when I'm trying to select an AF spot has cost me shots.

You are right that DPR mention a lot of cons with the A7RII, but in my opinion, those cons should lower their rating, and make it impossible to achieve the 90% score.

I don't follow. Does 90% represent perfection?

 

[privatebydesign]

You are right that DPR mention a lot of cons with the A7RII, but in my opinion, those cons should lower their rating, and make it impossible to achieve the 90% score.

I don't follow. Does 90% represent perfection?

Does 100%?

Just like DXO, who use a floating percentage for their scores (so higher than 100% is achievable) DPReview use a black box weighted rating system so we don't know. http://www.dpreview.com/articles/4416254604/camera-scores-ratings-explained

On the face of it, DPReview seems to have smoked a lot of whatever DXO have been smoking......

In reality a capped scoring system makes no sense, but it would be more intuative if it didn't have a percentage rating, just a simple numeric value, then people wouldn't have this mental block of 100 being the end of camera advancement.

For those that struggle with the uncapped idea (more than 100%) think of it as a comparison rather than an 'out of' score. For instance, when you hold a camera is it better than the one before? If so it gets an arbitrary amount more ergonomic points, if worse then it gets less. What you don't say is, 'on a scale of 1 - 20 how is the handling?' because you have capped 'the best' and everything better than that at 20.

 

[3kramd5]

You are right that DPR mention a lot of cons with the A7RII, but in my opinion, those cons should lower their rating, and make it impossible to achieve the 90% score.

I don't follow. Does 90% represent perfection?

Does 100%?

I wondered that myself before posting, not because of the sliding scale (which I didn't realize DPR uses), but because what is "perfection?"

Either way