DxOMark Sensor Performance: Nikon vs. Canon
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RLPhoto said:
what does an answer like this even means?
let's all go back to film then, i've seen plenty of good landscapes taken with film cameras.
He posted a comparison between the two sensor and the Nikon/Sony one is unarguably better.
Does this means that you cannot take beautiful pictures with a 5D Mk3? NO
Does this means that for a lower price Nikon is offering a camera with a better sensor that let you take beautiful pictures easily? YES
why can't people just admit that? customers should push their brand to do better, not settle down saying "nah i don't care if the competition is offering a better product for less money, I'm happy with what I have, please next time charge me more and remove some features, I will be willing to pay for it anyway".
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arioch82 said:
Heh, agreed. I was just trying to be as non-inflammatory & balanced in my post(s) as possible.
If the rumors about the new big megapixel Canon are true, I'd be pretty excited. It remains to be seen if the sensor has enough DR to even take advantage of a 16-bit ADC. Right now, Canon bodies are just oversampling noise with even their 14-bit ADC...
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RLPhoto said:
What? I can still buy 120 Velvia 50 for my 645 system. It wasn't discontinued in 120, was it?
Velvia on a lightbox really is something to behold. But landscapes shot with the DR of a D800 & then displayed on an 'HDR' monitor capable of a high contrast ratio would also likely be something to behold.
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RLPhoto
Gear doesn't matter, Just a Matter of Convenience.
sarangiman said:
Its a sad story but true. Buy it while you can.
http://www.ephotozine.com/article/fujifilm-fujichrome-velvia-100f-35mm--120--4x5-and-50-4x5--8x10-discontinued-19729
I once viewed a 4x5 velvia slide from a collage prof. shot in yosemite 10 years ago, Its been the most stunning color I've ever seen and have yet to see anything close to it.. I could only imagine a 8x10 slide.
35mm has nothing like it and depressing because some newer shooters may never actually see a brilliant large format color slide film in a lightbox.
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Sad. But at least it appears that Velvia 100 is fine (I never liked 100F anyway), & I can still get 120 Velvia 50.
But I'm sure even those will go in the near future.
But I'm sure even those will go in the near future.
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sarangiman said:
Sorry if this has been discussed in the thread on previous posts...
We all know Nikons use of the Sony Exmor produce fantastic DR, even if I personally don't put so much weight into it (as many other seem to do).
However as I understand it, the Canon sensors have the upper hand at long exposure times, perhaps if you have both Cameras, some nice Milky way pictures sure would be nice to see.
(Reasonable exposures would be like ISO 1600 f/1.4 8s at 35mm or with some star trails f/2.8 @ 32s)
I haven't seen if longer exposures actually gives better result in the Canon, but I've heard that was the Achilles heal on the Exmor sensors and that they would produce quite a bit of noise.
DR or not my Canon 5D Mark II is fantastic (at least on the center AF)
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Gear doesn't matter, Just a Matter of Convenience.
sarangiman said:
Indeed, a sad time. I liked Velvia 50 in my old yashica TLR.
You should post your portfolio. You've got some good stuff here, and forget about ze gear. It really doesn't matter as much as some posters make it out to be. 8)
If I had the time, I'd re-purchase some of my old 4x5 gear again.
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I have pics that taken in ambient light of a church with 5DMKiii @ around ISO 20000 (I used Auto ISO in M mode). They are usable in 4x6 format. My friend with D800 was there but couldnt do that. As far as DxOMark said, D800 is the top of FF camera. Can other Nikons do that? LOL.neuroanatomist said:
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Sony said:
That's going by what DxO says, in the real world it's alittle different. That's like saying my 5DIII is the best because of it's AF, FPS & high ISO. It all depends on what you're using it for. Wait, I guess it is the best for what I'm doing.
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What a terrible hoax. lol.sarangiman said:RLPhoto said:
Nikon D800 | ISO 100 | 1/100s @f/11:
Canon 5D Mk III | ISO 100 | 1/100s @f/11:
... and that's at 800px web size.
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sarangiman said:RLPhoto said:
Nikon D800 | ISO 100 | 1/100s @f/11:
Canon 5D Mk III | ISO 100 | 1/100s @f/11:
... and that's at 800px web size.
That kind of bullsh*t is what really ticks me off about this whole debate. The exposure there (f/11 @ ISO 100!!!!!) is OBVIOUSLY botched to intentionally create a scenario where you have to lift the entire shot out of the shadows. Expose the damnable thing properly, and you won't HAVE to lift any shadows! NO ONE does what those photos demonstrate in the real world. It is entirely unrealistic, a bogus scenario to create a comparison that purposely puts Canon sensors in the worst light possible. It is entirely possible to create a photograph with a Canon camera at a wider aperture that looks every bit as good as the D800 photo...and in real life, THAT'S HOW IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE DONE...at a WIDER aperture.
DON'T BUY INTO THIS LOAD OF BULL, PPL!
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