I've requested permission of a family whose casual photos I shot last summer where FPN is noticeable on dark clothing.
I expect they'll approve my request.
It's about the last time I used the camera. Customer was totally pleased with the results, I was not.
I've basically sidelined the 5d2 as an inadequate FF Rebel with serious FPN problems, not worthy of MY use so it's seen very little action with me.
I got the thing to do landscape and other outdoor and high DR work. It's not been able to adequately fulfill that role,
the way I want to use it, so to me it was an expensive PoS with limited ability. It DID deliver some really great images in many situations where lighting was
not challenging, but was not able to do so when and where I needed it to. At the time I was also using a 40D which showed less FPN when using similar PP. I still like and use the 40D.
So a new 5D2 having worse raw file IQ than my older, cheaper camera was a big disappointment, to put it mildly.
Maybe 5d2 was one of the better tools available at the time, doesn't mean it was good enough. A better tool was announced less than 3 weeks prior to the 5d2, the d90. However I was an ignorant Canon fanboy at that time and paid little attention to the competition with all the full-frame excitement and high expectations.
Now a cheap consumer camera from a competitor nearly 2 years ago, at 1/5th the cost, grossly outperforms 5d2 in this part of the operating regime it only reinforces my opinion that the 5d2 was, and still is, a grossly overhyped bit of gear. Despite that, the vast majority of users are happy to continue using it. That's fine for them.
Those who are content with the shortcomings of a tool they're using are not going to convince those of us who need a
better tool that it's OK! Thanks for trying. People on here are truly helpful and a great resource to plenty of newbies.
Hopefully I'll get permission to post a few samples where maybe you'll actually SEE the problem. Possibly helping spare some avid users some unpleasant surprises that they haven't yet discovered.
You guys may need to be reminded. I'm not a Canon hater, just a disappointed long time Canon user who opened his eyes and found better tools for certain shots from the competition.
I still like using my bucket of Rebel bodies, 40D, and 60D and am looking fwd to an improved 7D Mk 2 or 70D.
@privatebydesign - i often print big too. expose for the highlights, bring up the rest with various curve tools until the image DR is compressed to a useful range for printing. This is where the 5d2 (&7D) can fail if there was a lot of DR in the original scene. The sensor may be similar or even the same between this and your 1 series body but there's a lot more to the rest of the electronic guts that can make the difference in FPN. Quality is rarely skimped on the 1 series.
I got better results with my 40D, 60D, and various Rebels than what the 5d2 delivered. And now my modern Nikon gear blows them all away whenever I need to do this this kind of processing. Right tool for the job, but not necessarily the same tool for all jobs.
@Mikael Risedal - Thanks for knowing and understanding.
I don't know if I've seen your real world comparison shots other than the one of a shed with interior shadows. Apparently that does not qualify as a real world image for some people. What if you want to spy on the contents of your neighbor's shed?
I suspect Neuro will tell me that I wasted 1 or 2 possible stops worth of DR on some of the shots by some of the method I used. I.E. I could have ETTR more if I were using Neutral or Faithful instead of Standard settings so my RGB playback histogram would more closely reflect raw headroom. Yup... Might have. I don't have to worry about this on my other bodies tho.
