EF 11-24mm f/4L: Our First Impressions

Well, what do you know -- I e-mailed Fotodiox/Wonderpana about the 11-24 f/4L and got an instant reply:

"Hello,
That lens is not out yet, but we have plans on making a WonderPana for that lens. but at this time there is no time frame on when this will be available. Thank you and have a great day."


That's good news if you own this lens!

- A
 
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I've never understood why people don't try to find solutions for themselves, rather sitting idly with their thumbs up their butts waiting for someone else to come up with something.

First, I've found the lack of filterability of the 11-24 at the current time to not be a major, or even minor, concern. Clearly, we don't want to polarize a sky at 11mm. Even at 24mm, I wouldn't polarize the sky unless there was something blocking that portion of the sky that would be least filtered. However, yes, we often times do want to polarize the rocks on the ground, or the ocean at the bottom of the frame, or what have you. What I do in those cases is take the largest CP I have on me, and work my way through the portion of the image I need polarized, holding the CP in front of the lens and blocking stray light by using my hand above the filter/lens. Of course, my hand will be in the image, and so will the filter, but those are easy to mask out from the other images. You have to know how much light your filter absorbs, and then adjust your exposure by that amount when you're doing your CP shots, but this is a one time experiment that you do, and then you know it for the future. It's worked great for me, and the bonus is I don't have to carry a lot of extra weight and size of extra gear just for some shots.

I used to use a similar method when I was using the 14mm f2.8 for landscapes. I didn't want to buy a huge and weighty system. Not to mention, such a system does not fit in well with ultralight backpacking, as I would then have had to upgrade to a bigger bag, which weighed more, etc, but I digress. I had heard a lot of naysayers tell me how it would be awful to do my technique, I'd miss shots, whatever, I heard it all. I ran an experiment. During sunrise on day, I used a friend's Wonderpana system. During sunset, I used my CP technique. I also timed how long it took me to edit each image until it was ready as "one image" ready for actual post processing. For the ones where I used my technique, a smaller CP with multiple shots, this took a little longer because I had to mask in certain areas. Interestingly, if you look at overall time spent, it was actually quicker, on average, to use my technique over a "proper" much larger filter. The advantage is, less time is spent in the field, and you're sacrificing time at home spent on merging the images. I think we can all agree on that we have way more time at home available to us than we do out in the field. I'd rather spend my time in the field taking shots, then setting them up.

The one time I found the Wonderpana system faster was long after sunset, during twilight, when my exposures were so long that free holding a filter in front of a lens was simply too long and introduced too much movement. However, as you all know, there is little need for a polarized filter that late in the game. Even with a more "normal" focal length, like 35mm, during twilight there is no real use to using a polarized filter. There is not enough polarized light to make a drastic difference in your image. Try it. Take two shots during twilight. There will be some differences between a bare shot and one with a CP, but the difference is orders of magnitude smaller than comparable shots taken an hour earlier, or during much brighter times of the day.
 
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Great looking image. I do plan to review this lens at some point, but I have to confess it isn't all that exciting to me. I simply don't need a lens that wide, and I suspect few photographers actually do, too.

The new Tamron 15-30 or the 16-35mm f/4L IS make more sense to me.

P.S. The point made about thousands of great landscape photographers using the 14-24mm despite its bulbous front element is a valid one. A bulbous front element is not so great an obstacle as we sometimes make it out to be. It hasn't stopped me from adding hundreds of images to my catalog from the Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 that I'm very proud of.
 
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ahsanford said:
Well, what do you know -- I e-mailed Fotodiox/Wonderpana about the 11-24 f/4L and got an instant reply:

"Hello,
That lens is not out yet, but we have plans on making a WonderPana for that lens. but at this time there is no time frame on when this will be available. Thank you and have a great day."


That's good news if you own this lens!

- A

I emailed them on the 27th Feb, this is what they said then:-

Please check back with us in two months. The Wonderpana filter adapter for
this lens should be available by then.

Kind Regards,
Fotodiox, Inc.
 
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mackguyver said:
ahsanford said:
I'm a little surprised that Wonderpana and Lee haven't come out with a formal statement that they will support the 11-24.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are having a tough time getting a copy and/or are still testing prototypes to be sure it will work. I'm also curious as to whether or not there will be a disclaimer similar to Lee's TS-E 17 adapter regarding max shift. Works with 11-24...up to 14mm or something like that.

In the meantime, I'll keep shooting with my 11-24 and make due without filters :)

The limitations listed on the Lee system were the main reason I bought the Wonderpana. No limit on shift (I saw no point in paying all that money for shift and then not being able to! And no limit on tilt, even combined shift and tilt are crazy generous and exceed virtually all actual real world image movements.
 
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TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
Great looking image. I do plan to review this lens at some point, but I have to confess it isn't all that exciting to me. I simply don't need a lens that wide, and I suspect few photographers actually do, too.

Good point, though I know some spectacular places which definitely can use wider than the 16mm of my 16-35. I think many of the shots I see from this lens gives me the feeling it was shot at 11mm just because the photographer could, not because the scene looks best this wide.
 
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msm said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
Great looking image. I do plan to review this lens at some point, but I have to confess it isn't all that exciting to me. I simply don't need a lens that wide, and I suspect few photographers actually do, too.


Having shot with the lens for over a month I'm pleasantly surprised by how much use I've got out of it already. Unless people photos are in the agenda; this is now the default lens on my 5d3. You may wan't to try it out before making up opinions.

Whether shooting the grand landscapes of the Southwest (the reason I got the lens) or redoing local fixtures I've found the ultra wide perspective quite refreshing.
 
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param said:
msm said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
Great looking image. I do plan to review this lens at some point, but I have to confess it isn't all that exciting to me. I simply don't need a lens that wide, and I suspect few photographers actually do, too.


Having shot with the lens for over a month I'm pleasantly surprised by how much use I've got out of it already. Unless people photos are in the agenda; this is now the default lens on my 5d3. You may wan't to try it out before making up opinions.

Whether shooting the grand landscapes of the Southwest (the reason I got the lens) or redoing local fixtures I've found the ultra wide perspective quite refreshing.

I'm glad that it is working well for you, and I don't doubt that it is an excellent lens. But the fact that you have found a great use for it doesn't change my overall opinion. I do plan to try it (didn't I say that?), but I review close to 20 lenses a year. My opinions aren't exactly unfounded.
 
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kraats said:
It is not really suites for landscape. The Professional landscape photographers that I know will not bit it. I think it is more suited for architecturen maybe.
I'm interested in using mine for both, particularly once I have 50MP images to crop ;-)

That said, I've had the EF14 2.8L II for several years and found it of more use for architectural work.
 
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