EF 50 f/1.4 II & EF 50 f/1.8 III [CR2]

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Re: EF 50 f/1.4 II & EF 50 f/1.8 III [CR2]

lets hopw the 50 1.8 III IQ is as good as the mkII but it gets USM so it actuay bothers focussing unlike the MKII wich is crap when it comes to focusing .

id pay 200 ish euro for a improved version and they get my old one back as thats a shitty lens preformance wise.
but knowing canon its not gonna get USM and cost about 250 euro as all there new lenses are more then twice the price of the old ones.... greedy buggers.
 
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Re: EF 50 f/1.4 II & EF 50 f/1.8 III [CR2]

dilbert said:
If the 50/1.4-II goes to $600-$700, what of the 50/1.8-III?

Does that become the new 50mm $300 lens?

If FTM and real USM goes into the 50/1.4, what for the 50/1.8?

A newer 50/1.4 at around $500 would be more to my liking.

I'm pretty sure canon will raise the price to 600-700 $/€. The gap between the current 1.4 and the 1.2L is big enough for them to do that :'(
Anyway the current lens developements showed impressive improvements maybe we see that in the primes too?!
 
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This is not good for me as I have just bought the 50 1.4 MK I..Probably will be harder for me to sell the older version if the new does come out.. Probably a random rumor like in 2009 when this came about..
 
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If the new 50 1.4 is really good I'll get one because it's useful for portraits on both crop and FF and it'll be handy for low light. I have the 1.8: it's not very good at 1.8, the AF is pretty bad, the construction is toy-like, Manual Focus is finicky, so I don't use it much. The current 1.4 is not sufficiently attractive, but a solid v.2 would be attractive even at $700.
 
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A 50mm f1.4 that doesn't fall apart after a few years use would be nice...and curing the low contrast when shooting wide open would be ncie too. The 50mm f1.8's AF is oddly more accurate and faster than the f1.4 USM version! I know that the 50mm f1.2 L is a much more expensive and exotic lens....but it really is far far superior to the other two lenses in many ways.
 
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as adition to me other post i think canopn would be doing themselves a favon if they stiopped using any motor but USM as it highly improves the focus ability's of a lens and i guess that the older usm by now is rather cheap to produce and miles better then these anoying micromotors.

i guess its smething people are willing to pay a little more for as now theres often the regret they didnt get a good lens the first time.
like the new kit lens and the 55-250 are great lenses IQ wise however there just terribly slow focusing.
 
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I cannot envisage a huge price increase on any of the new 50mm lenses. Largely Canon are cheaper than Nikon and the Nikon 1.4 is not much more than the Canon how would Canon justify a massively expensive version to it's customers? I expect a lens with a broadly similar price.
 
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Flake said:
I cannot envisage a huge price increase on any of the new 50mm lenses. Largely Canon are cheaper than Nikon and the Nikon 1.4 is not much more than the Canon how would Canon justify a massively expensive version to it's customers? I expect a lens with a broadly similar price.

seeing the past 7 lenses that canon gave a upgrade thats not how things seem to go sadly
all where alot more expencive or almost double the price of the old version.
somehow canon is either way to confident/cocky or people are still stupid enough to buy silly expencive gear wich automaticly justifies the rediculous prices...

im afraid the last is a big part of the problem!

as for the 500 1.8 if it has USM and same or better IQ even i am crazy enough to pay 220 bucks for it and im a real nitpicker on prices.
 
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If you're meaning the big whites then all of them are cheaper on the street than the Nikon equivalents, lenses like the fisheye zoom are impossible to compare. I think that covers 5 can't remember the other 2!

Recent lenses like the 100mm IS L Macro lens is marginally more expensive than the Nikon 105mm but then it does have the new H-IS system.
 
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I wish it would get a metal mount again.. but that would be awkward seing as how they went from Mk I metal -> Mk II plastic ..

il probably get a version of a 50mm between now and 12 months (no rush, no money in the bank), so im glad to see this rumour. hopefully its true and brings something nice. Presumably the 100$ 50 should stay 100$ though..
 
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unruled said:
I wish it would get a metal mount again.. but that would be awkward seing as how they went from Mk I metal -> Mk II plastic ..

il probably get a version of a 50mm between now and 12 months (no rush, no money in the bank), so im glad to see this rumour. hopefully its true and brings something nice. Presumably the 100$ 50 should stay 100$ though..

they can verry well keep producing this lens and make a usm version alongside it
 
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Re: EF 50 f/1.4 II & EF 50 f/1.8 III [CR2]

Although a metal mount seems better, I've not seen a plastic mount that broke badly enough to malfunction. On such a light weight lens its really not needed. I did have a plastic mount EF power zoom that had a chip out of the mount, but it was a old lens.

This lens is positioned as a low cost entry level lens, so making changes that would double the price would not be the best idea.

From what I've read, the earthquale effects have already affected planned introductions out into 2013, so its entirely possible that we might see new versions of the made in Taiwan lenses, assuming that they were not badly affected by the component shortages. I'm sure that Canon is looking at all the possible ways to increase production.
 
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is there any reason to believe taiwan made lenses are inferior to japan made lenses?

I remember reading about people complaining about made in china lenses (dont know about taiwan).
 
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unruled said:
is there any reason to believe taiwan made lenses are inferior to japan made lenses?

I remember reading about people complaining about made in china lenses (dont know about taiwan).

Canon farms out the lower cost mass produced lenses to Taiwan (18-55, 50mm f/1.8, ...). The lenses are designed for low cost manufacturing.

This does not mean that manufacturing quality is inferior, just that the lenses are not designed to be "L" grade construction.

Its likely that the high end lenses could be made in Taiwan, or most anywhere. Canon just wants to keep the high end stuff at home.

On the other hand, Nikon farms out assembly of their lenses to plants in Thailand. Some of the critical lens components are still made in Japan, and they cannot be easily outsourced on short notice, it takes years to tool, startup, and debug a lens plant.

Canon has been trying to get a lens production factory started up in Oita for two years now. Thats where the new supertelephoto lenses were to be made as I understand it. Its not fast or easy.
 
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Caps18 said:
I wonder if there is going to be a newer 50mm f/1.2 lens? That is one of the lenses I'm looking at getting.

I doubt it. The 50/1.2L is not that old (released in 2007), and was itself an update of sorts, from the 50mm f/1.0L (released in 1989, and still shows up on the used market occasionally for $3-4K). The other two current 50mm standard primes are from the early 90's.
 
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