EOS-1D X Canon USA Press Release

[torger]

I just like to know how the 17 times faster processor being utilized in this camera.

I think one of the features the processing power is used for is (optional) lens correction, chromatic abberation and stuff. Many people that shoot raw will probably want to correct that in post processing instead though.

 

[Tarrum]

Dual DIGIC 5+ image processors capable of delivering approximately 17 times more processing speed than DIGIC 4

Having the same MP as the 7D, shouldn't this camera have say... 17 times faster burst rate?
;D Now... before anybody shoot me, let me make it clear that I'm not asking for a 136 fps. I personally think 14fps is just right. I just like to know how the 17 times faster processor being utilized in this camera.

Its sensor is 1.6x larger. It shoots 12fps and even though 4 may not sound as a big difference, it is. It also takes care of chromatic aberration and distortion.

Though it does seem a bit funny, 17x faster, and there are two of them..The Digic IV takes care of metering systems, but hey, as long as it's a good camera

Edit: Canon states Digic V+ is 3x faster than Digic V. If they mean the P&S's cameras I understand, but I dont recall seeing V in a DSLR??

 

[Flake]

Aside from the poor auto focus coverage (centre frame only) it's dissapointing to find that Wireless File transfer and GPS are not built in, but are optional extra modules. Even compact cameras can manage to build GPS into the camera and now there's no good reason that WFT couldn't be. The two modules are pretty small, but only one can be used at a time. It looks like Canon don't want to lose the revenue from what has been an eye wateringly overpriced accessory, so it's unlikely we'll see these integrated in other lesser cameras.

 

[DanD]

congrats you where right on! will you make a give away 1DX contest ))

 

[jouster]

Do people really want 30 megapixel cameras? What for? Your hard drive will just fill up twice as quick. A noise free clean 18 megapixel photograph could be upsized if that was really necessary. All I need to do now is decide on whether or not to save for one of these or wait for a 6D thingie. In camera multi exposure technology is exciting.

Hard drives are dirt cheap. Processing time doesn't matter unless you take photos for a living. Just wait longer.

I agree that there's a decision to be made for many, but I think few in the end will drop $6800 unless their mortgage depends on their pics.

Funny how so many people championed a low-MP solution then disappeared when it was released! Overall, though, I'm a little surprised that Canon seems to be ceding the high-MP solution to MF and Pentax, and possibly Nikon.

 

[torger]

Aside from the poor auto focus coverage (centre frame only)

I'm no expert, but isn't this limitation a pure technical one? That is there is too poor sharpness, or too steep angle of incoming light or something far to the sides so it is really not technically feasible to do? That is full coverage is asking for the impossible?

 

[dr croubie]

Bye bye Canon, hello Nikon.

You won't be seeing me here anymore, good luck with new Prosumer 18mp camera kids, and keep an eye on EBay, all my lenses etc will be there soon.

LOL you are jumping ship at the wrong time, but its ok. Go shoot nikon with and process the files on an AMD computer just to show the world you will not conform

Hey, what's wrong with my PhenomIIx6?

Anyone who jumps ship before march (or at least before the major-review sites have had their go at the 1DX *and* the D800 or D4) are just going to lose out...

ps, what is the name of your ebay profile? i'll buy

 

[photosites]

Dual DIGIC 5+ image processors capable of delivering approximately 17 times more processing speed than DIGIC 4

Having the same MP as the 7D, shouldn't this camera have say... 17 times faster burst rate?
;D Now... before anybody shoot me, let me make it clear that I'm not asking for a 136 fps. I personally think 14fps is just right. I just like to know how the 17 times faster processor being utilized in this camera.

I think it is unlikely that the Image Processor is the limiting factor for frame rate. Mirror, shutter, Card/Buffer IO, etc could well be. My guess is that the IO buffer is a critical aspect for fps and shot to shot time.

Note that RAW shooting with larger files is almost always the same or slower than JPEG, although less processing is done. For JPEG, although you need to do all the conversion, compression, processing, your files are smaller and the speed is faster. So my guess is that IO Buffer plays a significant role in fps. To see the pure image processing capabilities, you need to look at JPEG, where smaller files results in less IO but more image processing is happening.

The fact that this camera can do 14fps JPEG while performing more calculations in terms of CA correction, iTR AF, AF Tracking, etc, shows its processing prowess. Also note that processing 61 AF points instead of the 19 from 7D adds a multiplier to the processing requirements of the AF features I have mentioned as well.

 

[NotABunny]

RAWs at (minimum) ISO 12800 (in all lighting conditions)... pretty please ;

 

[te4o]

"3rd Nov guess" and win a give-away-take-away too? :

40MP MF, no AA, 9.5+K, new EF mount for all unhappy with the cleanest Canon 18 MP ever.

 

[ippikiokami]

Hard drives are dirt cheap. Processing time doesn't matter unless you take photos for a living. Just wait longer.

I agree that there's a decision to be made for many, but I think few in the end will drop $6800 unless their mortgage depends on their pics.

Funny how so many people championed a low-MP solution then disappeared when it was released! Overall, though, I'm a little surprised that Canon seems to be ceding the high-MP solution to MF and Pentax, and possibly Nikon.

They haven't release the 5d III yet. How are they ceding anything.

And it's not meant to be a camera that the majority will buy folks. It's for the agencies / professionals and the rich people that need or can afford it.

38mp files makes a huge difference for editing time wise , you most likely would only use that high for advertising studio work. Most people who complain about this kinda stuff are the people who don't really need these cameras or functions in the first place. If you need 38 mp sooner than later then get a nikon (honestly who needs it unless they are doing advertising work?). There are cameras for everyone out in the market now and even the lowliest of cameras are better than some professional ones in the past!

 

[ippikiokami]

BTW anyone has any links to the preproduction images floating around that some people are talking about (the ones taken by the cam?)

 

[wockawocka]

I just pre ordered 3, saving the fourth slot for the studio version when it comes out.

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

I think this is the link, but the pics are tiny. You can't judge anything from the ISO 12800 shot, it's just too small.

http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html

Here's the video of the Lord of Darkness doing 14FPS:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/

 

[fifowarehouse]

1. Thank you CR for giving us great info on this NEW toy

2. Even though this is NOT the camera that I'm waiting for, but I'm VERY happy for all canon users.

 

[Chewy734]

It should be interesting to see what technology trickles down from this new body to the 5D3 next year.

 

[Neeneko]

Funny how so many people championed a low-MP solution then disappeared when it was released! Overall, though, I'm a little surprised that Canon seems to be ceding the high-MP solution to MF and Pentax, and possibly Nikon.

Well, speaking as someone who, as you say, championed a low MP solution.... just because a camera integrates one feature people were hoping for does not mean they will be happy with the whole package.

Looking at this camera, my highest hope for it is that it is popular and thus the used market gets flooded with cameras that meet my needs better, or at minimal meet them at a better price point. This model includes a bunch of high priced features that I have zero interest in... while I would love the sensor and body, I do not want to pay for all the AF and video stuff they threw in. A bit too 'all in one' for my interest.

 

[Ivar]

Sort of my feelings. 18MP would have been fine, but what about cropping possibilities, especially for those who are used to the densities what 1D Mk4 offered? I personally would have preferred 10fps@the 1D Mk4 crop enlarged to FF meaning ~27 megapixels.

Again, an all purpose camera would rather have been 27MP@10 than 18MP@12fps. The ISO differences would have been the minimum to non-existent on print.

For a quick reality check, Sony can do today 24MP@12fps (available in a couple of weeks), is better data-processing capability wise than the 1Dx, 18MP@12fps.

I am really disappointed, I am under the impression that the Canon new policy is only cost driven with huge support of marketing and shareholder pressure-no passion in that activity. But of course they state that that's a revolution, even if it's kind of little step back in my opinion. If 1dx would be a d3s competitor it will be acceptable and OK for me but....it's a "camera for every purpose" which translates for me as a camera without purpose and no specialisation. Sports,wedding and studiohmmm...strange like car which is aimed to win a professional race and provide great comfort on family trip, it's not possible. I recently switched to canon from nikon and today i think I made bad decision. Bigger single sensors-it seems for me it makes photos less sharp-I prefer a nikon strategy with no aa filter in d800. 21 mb in 5d2 and 18 in 1dx also for studio purpose- does not work for me. In general the idea of connecting 1ds and 1d is stupid and only cost driven, probably based on huge losses made by tragic event in production facilities (earthquakes and floods). Where is revolution-in 12 FPS? It's only speeding up processors and memory, no revolution in sensor itself. It's PR and child of marketing camera. Canon has just cut its R&D figures I think.

 

[EYEONE]

A few thoughts:

-I think this is a stellar move by Canon. They paid attention to the pro customers and made built a camera around whay they said.

-A replacement of the 1Ds only being 18mp seems odd. I'm, personally, fine with it but I think it pretty much proves that Canon will release another camera as a resolution monster. I would assume the 5D3 or something new will be a much higher res camera.

-If I had the money I'd order this camera today. But it could still possibly be too late. We'll have to see what Nikon does but Canon should have done this a year ago (I understand the delay though).

-I saw some comments about the arrangement of the AF points being too close together. There is a limitation to how much you can spread the AF points around. The secondary mirror can only be so big. You pretty much have to cram them all in a set area. On a crop camera the area is even smaller.

I had more but I can't think of it. All in all, bravo Canon.

 

[gleb86]

So does this mean that whenever the 5DMIII is announced, it won't be released until March as well?

I really want to upgrade from my t2i, but I'm afraid to get the Mark II since its value will drop dramatically. I need it for Ultra Music Festival in March