EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We’re told that the next EOS 5D will come in three different versions. Two of the cameras named “EOS 5Ds” would be the high megapixel cameras with a resolution of 53mp. One of the cameras would have an AA filter and other would not. We’ve heard this sort of thing before, <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/11/another-50mp-ff-dslr-mention-cr2/" target="_blank">except the language used previously was one camera would have a low pass filter, and the other would not.</a> I do like the naming “EOS 5Ds”, as that may finally put to rest the “EOS 3D” moniker which has been around longer than this site has. There is also precedent on the “S” naming from the days of the “EOS-1D” and “EOS-1DS”.</p>
<p>The third camera would be an EOS 5D Mark IV, which would continue on the path of a lower megapixel event, sports, wildlife focused full frame camera. If this is true, I don’t believe all 3 cameras would come at the same time.</p>
<p>For the time being, there are no plans for a high resolution EOS-1 body style. However, expect the build quality of any 5D replacement to be top notch.</p>
<p>Personally, if they don’t make a high resolution EOS-1D style body, I do hope that a “5Ds” has the top plate of an EOS-1D.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[AmselAdans]

I assume the High-MP variants to feature fewer FPS due to the high amount of data.
What other differences could be between the High- and Low-MP variants?

 

[Maximilian]

I hope, Canon does not mess up with all these versions.

OTOH they'll deliver a "take the one you need" convenience. Good for the customer.

 

[Maximilian]

I assume the High-MP variants to feature fewer FPS due to the high amount of data.
What other differences could be between the High- and Low-MP variants?

FPS, high ISO modes (or not), AF features... (still thinking)

 

[Cosmicbug]

Slight improvements on DR, FPS, AF, HIGH ISO noise and a few mpx more from the 5DIII. This would give me my next perfect workhorse.

 

[ewg963]

Cool beans

 

[baervan]

Uh interesting news. It sounds weird thought that after a very thin and spread out releasing policy now they come up with not 1 but 3 new models, some of them with the "hey choose the one you like best!"..

usually they always operate under the "take this or leave it policy" (or better "take this or take this cause you already have invested in our lenses"). this could be a welcome change of mindset for the company.

 

[docsmith]

Works for me. A true replacement for the 5DIII (which I would consider) with similar price and image file size and then the "3D" but called the 5Ds that essentially are answers to the D800. I would expect the 5Ds to be lower production higher priced cameras compared to the 5DIV.

 

[sanj]

It is not time for 5d4 yet. 5d3s yes.

 

[ewg963]

Uh interesting news. It sounds weird thought that after a very thin and spread out releasing policy now they come up with not 1 but 3 new models, some of them with the "hey choose the one you like best!"..

usually they always operate under the "take this or leave it policy" (or better "take this or take this cause you already have invested in our lenses"). this could be a welcome change of mindset for the company.

+100000000000000000000000000000000 Great points there

 

[AmselAdans]

"take this or take this cause you already have invested in our lenses"

gold ;D

 

[Canon Rumors]

Canon must be desperate to avoid using the name "3D" and "4D" if it will use "5Ds" instead.

It went from having (1D, 1Ds) -> 1DX to deal with market confusion.

Why does Canon believe going from 5D3 -> (5Ds, 5D4) won't create new market confusion?

Hasn't it learnt from the sins of the past?

I don't think "1DX" was to avoid market confusion. With the death of APS-H, it made no sense to keep the "EOS-1D" name. Since there wasn't going to be 2 version of the flagship camera, the name "1Ds" was no longer wanted or needed as it was synonymous with high resolution, which the 1D X isn't.

The problem with the name "3D" is obvious.

"4D" is possible, but I think the marketing muscle behind "5D", their most successful full frame camera would be welcomed.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Canon must be desperate to avoid using the name "3D" and "4D" if it will use "5Ds" instead.

It went from having (1D, 1Ds) -> 1DX to deal with market confusion.

Why does Canon believe going from 5D3 -> (5Ds, 5D4) won't create new market confusion?

Hasn't it learnt from the sins of the past?

I'm wondering why Canon haven't considered using X in the 5D name.
A 5D mk IV for the current lineage of camera. Mid density sensor - fast frame rate - uber versatile and fully featured spec and AF. So basically a un upgrade of the existing 5DIII.
Then a second camera - a 5Dx mk IV to sit in a niche next to the existing camera linage with a high MP, low frame rate camera which is basically the 5D4 but with an exchange of MP for frame rate. Don't bother with an AA filter for this puppy.
It makes sense to me...personally...my 5DIII's are doing a great job. A 5D4 needs some killer features for me to consider upgrading. Which at the moment, I don't have an obvious need.

 

[Cosmicbug]

A 5DmkIV evolved from the mkIII..24-26Mpx with 8FPS
A 53MP 5Ds would make a great complementary camera for studio, large groups, architecture and landscapes.
I like the idea that not one camera does all and that cameras are more dedicated to a specific genre. (Sony and Nikon are going that way and it seems Canon started this with the 1Dx and 7Dmk2

Expensive duo but will probably satisfy me for a while commercially and in my hobby

 

[Loswr]

One of the cameras would have an AA filter and other would not. We’ve heard this sort of thing before, except we were told previously one would have a low pass filter, and the other would not.

AA filter = OLPF = optical low-pass filter. So, you were told the same thing twice.

 

[Murilo_mms]

That´s all I wanted to hear!!!

I don´t want 53MP but I do want improved metering and more auto focus points (all crossed) like 7DII.

 

[Loswr]

Although I would certainly prefer 1-series high MP body, I would consider a high MP 5-series as a travel camera... I would likely get the version with the AA filter, since architecture causes problems with moiré.

I wonder if Canon would truly omit the AA filter, or do what Nikon did initially and use a non-functional AA filter. I suspect the latter, as that would simplify (i.e. make cheaper) the manufacturing/assembly process.

 

[[email protected]]

This looks like an excellent decision by Canon and if you don't want to shoot the full 50mp+ you can always use
MRaw (36mp ?) and Sraw (12mp ?) and the fps may be around the 4-5mp which will be good.

Be good if they could do an electronic Anti-Alias option that you could turn on and off on the camera and hopefully the MK 4 will come with 4K Video which is coming more and more common.

One thing is for sure we will need to look at our PC / Mac computer systems to possibly update them, e.g., larger hard disks, etc.

 

[xps]

A big jump from 22 to 53MP. 4-5 fps are ok if landscape or studio orientated.
But which price will we have to pay for it?
I read an fb posting, that it will be between the 5DIII & 1DX. Nearer to the 1DX. I hope this was an "troll" posting.
But Canon will we proud of having the chance to milk us as much as they can ....

But - if payable - great news.

 

[xps]

Question: At Sony rumors forum they wrote, that the next lenses for the coming high MP Sony body will have to move upwards in the resolution.
Do the existing Canon lenses have this higher resolution, or is the posting rubbish?