EOS 5D Mark IV Testing Has Begun [CR2]

[awinphoto]

how much does a kidney run on the black market now-a-days?

Any posts attempting to sell used equipment must be accompanied by images of the item for sale, and an actuation count.

Thanks
-the management

Management, while i would love to provide images of the item for sale, due to technical restrictions it is proving to be quite difficult and thanks to the rising cost of medical care, getting scans or medical imaging is too much, but you are free to inspect after the procedure... and actuations is 33 years old. =)

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I would think that the Digic 6 would probably suffice the rumored specs of the 5D4 just fine. If so, why waste a 7 on it?

Poor /me is all confused about those digic numbers, can anyone please explain what's the difference anyway?

Afaik the digic is a composite chip from the usual arm core and some custom hard-wired functions ... so what actual real-world features are connected with a digic 7 that a digic 6 camera cannot have?

Canon usually upgrades the Digic to have a more powerful processor and supporting components, which gives faster through put that allows for more FPS, faster video, like 4K, and better jpeg processing. They sometimes roll in functions of other chips that are were separate.

The 5D MK III has Digic 5, so its a bit dated. The 7D has dual Digic 6 chips. A Digic 7 might equal the power of dual Digic 6 processors. Power management in a camera is a big deal, so new Digic processors usually make use of new low power chips that give more processing per watt.

 

[Diko]

They are following a more evolutionary strategy than a revolutionary strategy.

The last revolution was film -> digital. You could argue that dSLR -> MILC is a revolution...but that's still ongoing, and sometimes the revolutionaries lose the war.

I believe the next gen different-from-CMOS sensors could be next revolution. E.g. Quantum CIS. But I think we need like 100 times more horse power in the CPU.

 

[Marsu42]

The 5D MK III has Digic 5, so its a bit dated. The 7D has dual Digic 6 chips. A Digic 7 might equal the power of dual Digic 6 processors.

That leaves /me still confused ... so the t6i is twice as powerful as a 5d3?

Power management in a camera is a big deal, so new Digic processors usually make use of new low power chips that give more processing per watt.

Good point there.

 

[Maiaibing]

Two trends we are seeing from Canon:
2.) They are following a more evolutionary strategy than a revolutionary strategy.

This is actually the opposite of the strategy Canon announced earlier this year to turn around their falling DSLR sales with more distinct improvements from one generation to next. But also longer between generations.

 

[slclick]

Has Canon cycled top end body releases or testing at least to coincide with the Olympic Games?

 

[Diko]

The 5D MK III has Digic 5, so its a bit dated. The 7D has dual Digic 6 chips. A Digic 7 might equal the power of dual Digic 6 processors.

That leaves /me still confused ... so the t6i is twice as powerful as a 5d3?

Not neceserally. IMO the DIGIC label is marketing. They prepare a set of instructions (e.g. Face Recognition) and put them in factory serial number...

C73015 (Canon|Gen 7 |import for Rebel | Created 2015) ;-)

 

[Loswr]

Well...

If the 5D4 is DIGIC 6 then it won't do 4k.

If the 5D4 is DIGIC 7 then there is a chance it will do 4k. But if it doesn't do 4k and has DIGIC 7 then no Canon DSLR will do 4K until DIGIC 8 arrives.

I see. So...the EOS 1D C, with dual Digic 5+ and 4K video capture is...not made by Canon? ...not a dSLR? Or is dilbert just flat out wrong...again?

:

 

[surge]

Are there any hints if Canon is considering 10-bit H265 instead of antique 8-bit H264? Even for HD 10 bit would be a great improvement? That would require a new processor, Digic 7, etc...

 

[gsealy]

Here is a link to a processor discussion. It is interesting and it will clear up some things.

http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/digic_processors.shtml

 

[Lee Jay]

You wouldn't believe my top requests for this model:

- Dual pixel focusing
- Sensor performance per unit area similar to 7DII
- Pop up flash (no, I'm not kidding)
- Under $2,000 (sorry, just trying to see how many of you I could get spew beverage onto the monitor)

Two nice to haves but not that important are:

- 4k video
- Lower base ISO read noise

To be honest, I might be done with full-frame. I've just reconfigured my lens kit to better support my 7DII, and I'm liking how that's going so far. However, full-frame still has its advantages even with the new lens setup.

 

[RGF]

Feel like a kid in the candy shop every 4-5yrs ;D

1Dx II

1Dx II

1DX II

but there are several new counters of goodies

1DX II is on one side of the aisle

5DS/5DSR and 5D IV on the other.

Which to choice? Can I have get an advance on next year's allowance?

 

[RGF]

They are following a more evolutionary strategy than a revolutionary strategy.

The last revolution was film -> digital. You could argue that dSLR -> MILC is a revolution...but that's still ongoing, and sometimes the revolutionaries lose the war.

Okay what is MILC?

 

[Loswr]

Okay what is MILC?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrorless_interchangeable-lens_camera

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

The 5D MK III has Digic 5, so its a bit dated. The 7D has dual Digic 6 chips. A Digic 7 might equal the power of dual Digic 6 processors.

That leaves /me still confused ... so the t6i is twice as powerful as a 5d3?

There are often different versions of the Digic processors, just to confuse people. The 5D MK III has a Digic 5+ while the rebels had Digic 5. There is a version for the point and shoot, and another for video cameras. Presumably, the Digic 5 plus had a processor with faster clocking? There have never been any precise specifications. Some people claim to have identified which ARM processors were used, but those are assumptions based on the processors available at the time.

Here is a dated explanation is consumer terms from Canon. It gives relative processing power differences.


"Now, let’s talk about speed. A DIGIC 5 processor is approximately six times faster than DIGIC 4. A DIGIC 5+ is approximately three times faster than DIGIC 5, and 17 times faster than DIGIC 4. In terms of image quality alone, this means the processor can perform more separate calculations, on a pixel-to-pixel basis, immediately after an image is recorded. This translates into more opportunities to evaluate each image and optimize its quality before it’s even written to the memory card.
"

http://www.learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2012/digic_processors.shtml

http://www.canon.com/technology/interview/digic4/digic4_p1.html

There is a good high level history of Digic Processors on Wikipedia, but nothing even close to specific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIGIC

 

[e17paul]

Now that I just bought the Mark III

but seriously, got a good deal, first DSLR that I have bought new and it's an amazing camera for the next years! Cannot be happier

Victor

Judging by past record, you would not have got a better deal by waiting. A friend bought a 5D2 at the same time as bought my 6D, features are more or less equivalent, and the price paid was very similar.

The 6D2 at launch price is likely to be equivalent in features and much reduced street price of the 5D3, while the 5D4 will be significantly more expensive until the price tapers down.

 

[macsavageg4]

Should be a fun camera. It will be my next full frame body.

 

[K-amps]

Please announce the 6dii soon!

 

[IgotGASbadDude]

Feel like a kid in the candy shop every 4-5yrs ;D 1DX II

I think I need to begin saving for (my guess) an $8K investment . . .

 

[rfdesigner]

Sorry for sounding dim, but on this side of the pond "Euro" is the stuff they use for money on the continent.

When it comes to sports there's any amount of "euro" competitions.. which one are we referring to?