EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
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neuroanatomist said:Well, that ought to DRum up some DRead from the DRoll DRones who DRool over DR, and DRag many a forum thread down the DReary path of DRivel, DRaining into puddles of DRoss.
Hopefully they improved the low ISO read noise but I'll believe it when I see it (and I really do hope we see it). Don't worry about that shutting down the bellyachers though -- bellyachers are quite resourceful
Funny post though.
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I am very excited about this, not because I'm gonna buy the 70D but for what it means for the 7D2! I love my 7D too much to go sell it for a 70D, I wonder how many will though? I mean if that ISO is clean at even 1600 and good at 3200 it might tempt a few. I am finding that nowadays I end up using ISO 1600 a lot. I would love to just be able to leave the camera at ISO 3200 and just shoot all day, especially indoors, getting max efficiency from a flash too!
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As has been said before, the introduction of the 70D is very exciting, particularly the clues it offers to the upcoming 7D2. Remember, canon said the 7D2 will be "ground breaking", not the 70D.... So whatever happens with the 70D is not " groundbreaking".
If new standard of iso performance and 5Xfaster live view focus in crop cameras is not "groundbreaking", then the 7D2 must be something to behold!
If new standard of iso performance and 5Xfaster live view focus in crop cameras is not "groundbreaking", then the 7D2 must be something to behold!
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Don Haines said:
Good Point. On paper the 70D has everything I would want in a crop body (as long as it has AFMA).
To improve on this my guess is it will be focused toward sports. Maybe 10+ FPS, Totally weather sealed, maybe a 1d style body, Many more AF points, etc.
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neuroanatomist said:Well, that ought to DRum up some DRead from the DRoll DRones who DRool over DR, and DRag many a forum thread down the DReary path of DRivel, DRaining into puddles of DRoss.
1. it's not even a straight rumour, but onl y a "hearsay rumor".
2. just to get even with the Nikon D7100, the 70D will need:
a. +2 EV DR @ base/low ISO
b. AND 1 EV less noise @ Hi ISO (1600+)
3. compared to Fuji X (APS-C Trans Sensor) the 70D needs 3+ stops improvement in Hi ISO noise [see dpreview RAW comparison]
So ... really nothing to get excited yet. AFter all, Canon has proclaimed "the future of photography" a couple of times already and then delivered only very minor improvements.
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neuroanatomist said:Well, that ought to DRum up some DRead from the DRoll DRones who DRool over DR, and DRag many a forum thread down the DReary path of DRivel, DRaining into puddles of DRoss.
Very DRoll of you, DR.
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I'm very leery of Canon's ISO figures, they are for jpeg images that are highly processed with lots of NR. Their Digic 5+ gives them power to do a lot of good quality NR, but it does not boost the underlying sensor performance. Still, any improvement is good. They claim ISO 12800 (25600 expanded) which is definitely a stop better, but its for jpegs.
The native ISO of a RAW image is more telling.
I hope it has AFMA, without it, images using a 20mp sensor will not be as sharp as they can be.
The native ISO of a RAW image is more telling.
I hope it has AFMA, without it, images using a 20mp sensor will not be as sharp as they can be.
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i'll be really pleased if the 70D and the 7DII have nice clean low iso noise files and good DR as I'll be interested in replacing my 40D for my macro work with either of these bodies.
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While this is good news, the caveat here is apparent....a new benchmark....for a crop sensor. I seriously doubt that it'll match or even come close the high Iso performance of the 1DX, 6D or 5DIII.
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looks like the next generation of sensor fabrication is here.
Good news is that the next full frame cameras will be even more better.
By the way, i hope sony and thoshiba too launch new tech and keep things going in competition. At last, it's us the consumers who are benefited.
Good news is that the next full frame cameras will be even more better.
By the way, i hope sony and thoshiba too launch new tech and keep things going in competition. At last, it's us the consumers who are benefited.
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From the original Post:
"We’ve received word that the new Canon EOS 70D which is right around the corner will set the benchmark for ISO performance from a crop camera."
... so it will pave the way for a 50 MPix FF sensor with reasonable ISO ... which has a mRAW mode with a 2x2 pixel binning for 12.5 MPix full color files ... just letting my thoughts flow ... would be very interesting ...
"We’ve received word that the new Canon EOS 70D which is right around the corner will set the benchmark for ISO performance from a crop camera."
... so it will pave the way for a 50 MPix FF sensor with reasonable ISO ... which has a mRAW mode with a 2x2 pixel binning for 12.5 MPix full color files ... just letting my thoughts flow ... would be very interesting ...
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