EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?

[Tom W]

If the files are truly clean and not doctored to appear clean, then this might make a nice companion to the 5D3. I really like having two bodies, especially when I'm at an event and don't want to swap lenses back and forth. Having a nice, high pixel-density cropper alongside my full frame body gives me a lot of flexibility as well.

 

[OmarSV11]

After seeing the 70D specs I have real doubts about buying a 6D. Yeah, what Im talking about??? FF sensor!!! Kill me now. But as far as overall performance the 70D just topped my choice of usefull specs vs. 6D, When I travel to NYC to buy my new body the balance is to the crop body for sure :S (If my budget/credit card flunks on the 5DmkIII)

 

[unfocused]

As has been said before, the introduction of the 70D is very exciting, particularly the clues it offers to the upcoming 7D2. Remember, canon said the 7D2 will be "ground breaking", not the 70D.... So whatever happens with the 70D is not " groundbreaking"...

I'm not going to pin too much hope on the "groundbreaking." I suspect that for competitive reasons Canon elected to announce the 70D before the 7DII since Nikon has been dragging their feet on the D300S replacement. I expect the two bodies to share the same sensor.

If this new sensor offers a stop or two improvement in noise and they couple that with a 5DIII-style autofocus, dual card slots, the same or better frame rate, retain the joystick and other controls and beef up the weathersealing, it will be one heck of a camera and they'll get my money.

 

[Chosenbydestiny]

This is pretty big news. I just hope the hype fits the announcement and we aren't forced into a compromise for the "overall" cleaner files i.e. banding in the shadows at low ISO =P

 

[mb66energy]

After seeing the 70D specs I have real doubts about buying a 6D. Yeah, what Im talking about??? FF sensor!!! Kill me now. But as far as overall performance the 70D just topped my choice of usefull specs vs. 6D, When I travel to NYC to buy my new body the balance is to the crop body for sure :S (If my budget/credit card flunks on the 5DmkIII)

Why not? APS-C isn't worse than the best 35mm cameras with the best film material we had in the 1990ies - and if you have a good lens arsenal why change everything?
I am really glad with my 600D for movies and the 5.6 400:
5.6 640 effectively
5.6 1920 with 3x zoom (one physical pixel = 1 1080p pixel)
With FF? never possible.

The 2.8 100 acts as a 2.8 160mm which his very helpful and the 10-22 ultrawide does a reasonable job. I really prefer to wait for a FF mirrorless (if that will happen) for high resolution/low DOF/reusing my FD lenses and a compact HQ camera and ... use APS-C longer than planned initially.

If ISO 1600 is very clean with the 70D there is no reason to change the sensor format FOR ME.

 

[RGomezPhotos]

Well, that ought to DRum up some DRead from the DRoll DRones who DRool over DR, and DRag many a forum thread down the DReary path of DRivel, DRaining into puddles of DRoss.

;D

I can only imagine how awesome the big MP cam is going to be....

 

[2n10]

Well, that ought to DRum up some DRead from the DRoll DRones who DRool over DR, and DRag many a forum thread down the DReary path of DRivel, DRaining into puddles of DRoss.

;D 8)

Very well put.

 

[2n10]

I'm waiting for the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism Band of Banding-Hunting Brothers to mention that it has obvious pattern banding at +10stops DEC & +1000 fill-light, as confirmed by Professor Professorson, PhD E.E., when pixel-voyeured at 800%...

Lovely assessment.

 

[Lee Jay]

I want the RAW files to be as "RAW" as possible.

There are certain things (quite a few, actually) that really should be done to raw data before they are saved, including hot/dead pixel mapping, correlated double sampling, and ADC calibration.

Is the application chroma NR one of those things? How about a median blur filter for long exposure shots? :

No. Black frame subtraction, but not either of those.

 

[wsmith96]

I vote for just waiting to see the actual announcement and features list rather than speculating how we can take all of the features of canon's flagship cameras and stuff them into a consumer model for pennies on the dollar.

 

[hamada]

I vote for just waiting to see the actual announcement and features list rather than speculating how we can take all of the features of canon's flagship cameras and stuff them into a consumer model for pennies on the dollar.

we have seen the feature list of the 70D already.

 

[dr croubie]

How about a new benchmark in Low ISO performance? Like ISO 50 or 25?
(I don't care if the DR/Noise/whatever curves taper off to horizontal below 100 or 200, it would just be nice to be able use slower ISOs sometimes, like wide-open portraits in full sun without resorting to an ND)

 

[xylus]

Sounds very exciting! Will be very interested to see what it can do, though tbh, I'm usually quite happy with pictures from my 400D, so I guess this'll be a great surprise.

Do you have any idea what sort of time the announcement is going to be made? I'm never sure what determines which country makes the announcements of products, so can't really make a guess! I'm going to be working all night here though, so hopefully will be able to keep an eye on the news to see it

Looks like another 400D owner is waiting for an upgrade!

 

[cookinghusband]

It should be as good as the 6D or even better.
This is how DSLR grow. ie newer better ISO performance or more pixels

 

[Loswr]

It should be as good as the 6D or even better.
This is how DSLR grow. ie newer better ISO performance or more pixels

Except that sensor size matters. A lot.

 

[dougkerr]

I'm waiting for the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism Band of Banding-Hunting Brothers to mention that it has obvious pattern banding at +10stops DEC & +1000 fill-light, as confirmed by Professor Professorson, PhD E.E., when pixel-voyeured at 800%...

"Nattering Nabobs of Negativity".

-Spiro Agnew, written by William Safire

Best regards,

Doug Kerr

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

I'm waiting for the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism Band of Banding-Hunting Brothers to mention that it has obvious pattern banding at +10stops DEC & +1000 fill-light, as confirmed by Professor Professorson, PhD E.E., when pixel-voyeured at 800%...

"Nattering Nabobs of Negativity".

-Spiro Agnew, written by William Safire

Best regards,

Doug Kerr

Nice try, thanks for playing . http://www.answers.com/topic/nattering-nabobs-of-negativism


Also, look up Agnew's & Safire's Wiki for your edification. ;D

 

[paul13walnut5]

Sounds very exciting! Will be very interested to see what it can do, though tbh, I'm usually quite happy with pictures from my 400D, so I guess this'll be a great surprise.

Do you have any idea what sort of time the announcement is going to be made? I'm never sure what determines which country makes the announcements of products, so can't really make a guess! I'm going to be working all night here though, so hopefully will be able to keep an eye on the news to see it

Looks like another 400D owner is waiting for an upgrade!

If it wasn't for the advent of DSLR video, I wouldn't have been in any great rush to change my 400D. Mine was tired from extensive use, but as you say, the images are pretty good to this day.

Going to a 7D, the thing that mattered least to me was megapixels, or high ISO particularly (still have my film head on, I see folk shooting at iso 102'500 and just think, why?... there can't be any contrast in light that dim, sometimes things are supposed to be dark) that said my 7D at 3200 is like the 400D at 800, and the 7D is outdone by my M, by at least a stop of noise.

A decent pentaprism viewfinder, better handling, off camera E-TTL flash command, and the increased buffer rates are all great reasons to upgrade. I never looked back, even although I really really enjoyed my time with the 400D.

 

[tron]

Well, that ought to DRum up some DRead from the DRoll DRones who DRool over DR, and DRag many a forum thread down the DReary path of DRivel, DRaining into puddles of DRoss.

DRoolific sentence ;D

 

[GMCPhotographics]

I'm waiting for the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism Band of Banding-Hunting Brothers to mention that it has obvious pattern banding at +10stops DEC & +1000 fill-light, as confirmed by Professor Professorson, PhD E.E., when pixel-voyeured at 800%...

Which will undoubtably "prove" that this camera is useless for any photographer who refuses to metre and expose their photographs properly!