EOS 7D Replacement Mentioned Again [CR1]

[mkabi]

When I read the N1v3 can do ~60fps with focus locked almost made me choke on my ichiban noodles!

Well, at least we have Magic Lantern which can do 60fps+ raw with locked focus right now for Canon ("silent pix"), but alas, only at reduced live view resolution 1824x1224 ...

Are you being sarcastic? Because thats actually more resolution than 1080p.
1920X1080 = 2073600
1824X1224 = 2232576

 

[Marsu42]

Are you being sarcastic? Because thats actually more resolution than 1080p.
1920X1080 = 2073600
1824X1224 = 2232576

True, but it's far below the full sensor res of real mirrorless like the 18mp Nikon 1 v3 - so the ML solution is no good for larger prints or cropping.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Are you being sarcastic? Because thats actually more resolution than 1080p.
1920X1080 = 2073600
1824X1224 = 2232576

True, but it's far below the full sensor res of real mirrorless like the 18mp Nikon 1 v3 - so the ML solution is no good for larger prints or cropping.

Just curious, what exactly are people shooting at 60fps that they are going to make large prints?

 

[Marsu42]

Just curious, what exactly are people shooting at 60fps that they are going to make large prints?

Any fast movement with a decisive moment water drops or other often pre-arranged settings where you know the focus has to be.

 

[East Wind Photography]

... the days of the mirror-flipping high fps beast seem to be almost over.

Marsu, don't tell me you're buying into the mirrorless hype.

Well, this forum is the stronghold of the old school "80s" dslr community, but alas, tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.

I'm buying the fact that in the near future, you can do 100fps full res with mirrorless - at amateur price w/o 1d-type construction and for shootings styles that need "take your pick". Me, I'm always using flash so 1fps is enough

But really, the whole mirror idea is based on the fact that the analog film needs to be hidden, with a digital sensor it's on its way out except for people who also use digital watches that were once cool. Your camera is a high-performance computer, but this fact is only used up to a tiny fraction by existing designs and software.

Canon is working on this with the whole dual pixel af gadgetry, and the 7d2 delay indicates they won't release it as the last flagship incarnation of the old school dslr system with "everything Canon has" stuffed in.

Lol. Just for the record i picked up an eos-3 two weeks ago. For the life of me i cant figure out how to do video with it.

 

[mackguyver]

I gave up waiting (yes, just six months to 'Kina) and I'm not sure I want to go back to crop again. I found a great deal and I have a 1DX on the way. My AMEX is crying a river :'( but I hope to make good u$$$e of it.

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

 

[Lawliet]

We aren't talking cell phone distances here. Most EVFs are recessed at around a quarter of an inch or so, pretty much always less than an inch. At around an inch, 3000-5000ppi would do it, but at a quarter of an inch, people with better than 20/20 vision are going to see pixels.

Your whole chain of argument is consistent in missing a vital point: there is at least one optical element in from of the display. I.e. absolute and apparent size, resolution, distance to the eye,... of the display are decoupled, making the whole story somewhat amusing but nonetheless moot.

Also seeing those discreet pixels would require them to have sharp borders, absolutely no light bleeding to neighbor cells, nothing like the trinitron tube of old times. No effective AA-filterlike construct to blend colors.

Having pixels in the VF has some benefits on the one side, on the other: in favorable conditions now I see the structure of the matte screen. That's not really much better then it's electronic counterpart in the first place...

 

[Nazareth]

With the long wait, I'm erring towards a 5DIII, as time is pressing.

Unless the 7DII can rail off 10fps+ for a good 100+ images (jpeg) and has an IQ in the 5D/5DII arena, and a AF system surpassing the 5DIII, then I'll settle for 6fps ad infinitum (jpeg), great IQ and AF of the 5DIII.

By the time the 7DII makes it into the world, I doubt there'll be much price differnce, like the 5DII and the 7D when it was launched.

That's what I was thinking- They will likely be close in price, but you'll still be getting a crop sensor with the 7D- IF however, the IQ and ISO capabilities improve tremendously, then yeah, it might make it a good choice for those that want 'extra reach' of a crop sensor with great ISO capabilities- I like my current 7D, but not too crazy about higher ISO performance- that's the one area I wish it was better- and which I'd pay more for

 

[Nazareth]

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

I'll take three please

 

[Marsu42]

That's what I was thinking- They will likely be close in price, but you'll still be getting a crop sensor with the 7D

That's probably also what Canon are thinking, that's why they don't release it

 

[Rienzphotoz]

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

Yippy, I'm ordering two 7D MK II cameras now. ;D

 

[jeffa4444]

Pro-Vision offering brand new Canon 7d body with Canon UK warrenty for £ 745.00 in limited sale. Generally available with £ 100.00 cash back for £ 929.00.

 

[Marsu42]

Pro-Vision offering brand new Canon 7d body with Canon UK warrenty for £ 745.00 in limited sale.

... which probably doesn't indicate the imminent arrival of the 7d2, but the market acceptance that the 7d1 is rather outdated sensor-wise by now :-o

 

[East Wind Photography]

Pro-Vision offering brand new Canon 7d body with Canon UK warrenty for £ 745.00 in limited sale.

... which probably doesn't indicate the imminent arrival of the 7d2, but the market acceptance that the 7d1 is rather outdated sensor-wise by now :-o

They need to do something. They still have a tremendous stock of new and refurb 7D. Expect big fire sales soon.

 

[wsmith96]

I gave up waiting (yes, just six months to 'Kina) and I'm not sure I want to go back to crop again. I found a great deal and I have a 1DX on the way. My AMEX is crying a river :'( but I hope to make good u$$$e of it.

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

That is usually my luck. I'm holding out, but the camera deals are starting to show up again.

 

[mackguyver]

I gave up waiting (yes, just six months to 'Kina) and I'm not sure I want to go back to crop again. I found a great deal and I have a 1DX on the way. My AMEX is crying a river :'( but I hope to make good u$$$e of it.

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

That is usually my luck. I'm holding out, but the camera deals are starting to show up again.

That hasn't actually happened to me, but I've missed out on the lens rebates many times, usually just by a few days. I've gotten lucky a few times, though, and caught a retailer who hadn't updated their pricing (during the instant rebate days).

Also, the 1D X is all that and more, so I have no regrets!

 

[East Wind Photography]

I gave up waiting (yes, just six months to 'Kina) and I'm not sure I want to go back to crop again. I found a great deal and I have a 1DX on the way. My AMEX is crying a river :'( but I hope to make good u$$$e of it.

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

That is usually my luck. I'm holding out, but the camera deals are starting to show up again.

That hasn't actually happened to me, but I've missed out on the lens rebates many times, usually just by a few days. I've gotten lucky a few times, though, and caught a retailer who hadn't updated their pricing (during the instant rebate days).

Also, the 1D X is all that and more, so I have no regrets!

I wouldnt exactly call the 1dx noise free...its more like a 50'cal machine gun. Which is why i did not buy one.

 

[mackguyver]

I gave up waiting (yes, just six months to 'Kina) and I'm not sure I want to go back to crop again. I found a great deal and I have a 1DX on the way. My AMEX is crying a river :'( but I hope to make good u$$$e of it.

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

That is usually my luck. I'm holding out, but the camera deals are starting to show up again.

That hasn't actually happened to me, but I've missed out on the lens rebates many times, usually just by a few days. I've gotten lucky a few times, though, and caught a retailer who hadn't updated their pricing (during the instant rebate days).

Also, the 1D X is all that and more, so I have no regrets!

I wouldnt exactly call the 1dx noise free...its more like a 50'cal machine gun. Which is why i did not buy one.

I didn't say anything about the noise, but it's only loud if you're shooting at 12FPS and you can customize the FPS. I don't think it's any louder than the 7D was 8FPS, but it's definitely not as quiet as the 5DIII silent single or high speed modes, which are amazing.

 

[privatebydesign]

I gave up waiting (yes, just six months to 'Kina) and I'm not sure I want to go back to crop again. I found a great deal and I have a 1DX on the way. My AMEX is crying a river :'( but I hope to make good u$$$e of it.

I'm sure the 7DII will probably be announced tomorrow with all of the 1DX features, shoot 30FPS for 90 frames, be noise free up to ISO 12,800...and cost $1500...

What kind of deal did you get? I am now wavering on a 1DX as one of my 1Ds MkIII's is getting tired and I really want some better IQ at over 400 iso.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

I couldn't wait for the 7D MK II any longer, so I got the 70D ... if and when they release the 7D MK II, I'll wait for the reviews and then sell my 70D to fund the 7D MK II ... lets see how that goes.