Filter System Coming for the TS-E 17 f/4L? [CR1]

[Rick]

DIY filterholder

Ben Egbert and I discussed doing a DIY filterholder utilizing the 17's front cap in April 2011. I am not handy so I had to wait until Ben actually did the work and produced a tutorial. (See below). Total cost for parts = $80 or so. You will not ba able to buy the Lee version (if real) for 4x this number. In the meantime, a bunch of folks popped on the internet with the same or similiar idea. Except for some vignetting in areas of the frame that appear when the shift is too strong, works like a charm.

http://ben-egbert-photo.com/?page_id=206#comment-1780

 

[privatebydesign]

Having looked at the WonderPana 145 Essentials Kit I am interested in getting one for the polarizer. Could somebody who owns one post a picture of it mounted on the 17TS-E please? Whilst I can understand how it works on the 14mm and the Nikon 14-24 I don't see how it fits the 17TS-E without mounting on the focus ring. It would be a great help if I could see one before ordering, thanks.

Here you go. As you can see it is mounted via the bayonet of the lens cap. Very secure and does not vignette with movement.
Added Bonus is some protection of the front element.

Many thanks Normalnorm, I am sold and will order one when I go to the States in a few weeks. I watched the video of how they mounted it to the 14-24 with the compression ring type fitting and as that made no sense on the 17 I really appreciate your photo.

 

[fiend]

Re: DIY filterholder

Ben Egbert and I discussed doing a DIY filterholder utilizing the 17's front cap in April 2011. I am not handy so I had to wait until Ben actually did the work and produced a tutorial. (See below). Total cost for parts = $80 or so. You will not ba able to buy the Lee version (if real) for 4x this number. In the meantime, a bunch of folks popped on the internet with the same or similiar idea. Except for some vignetting in areas of the frame that appear when the shift is too strong, works like a charm.

http://ben-egbert-photo.com/?page_id=206#comment-1780

Followed his work on another forum and he later said (I think?) that the thing fell of due to the glue not sticking hard enough. He also mentioned that he would not make another one since the front-cap with the standard-holder was better alternative. Smaller and less vinjeting.
If I'm not all wrong.

 

[deleteme]

Re: DIY filterholder

Ben Egbert and I discussed doing a DIY filterholder utilizing the 17's front cap in April 2011. I am not handy so I had to wait until Ben actually did the work and produced a tutorial. (See below). Total cost for parts = $80 or so. You will not ba able to buy the Lee version (if real) for 4x this number. In the meantime, a bunch of folks popped on the internet with the same or similiar idea. Except for some vignetting in areas of the frame that appear when the shift is too strong, works like a charm.

http://ben-egbert-photo.com/?page_id=206#comment-1780

Followed his work on another forum and he later said (I think?) that the thing fell of due to the glue not sticking hard enough. He also mentioned that he would not make another one since the front-cap with the standard-holder was better alternative. Smaller and less vinjeting.
If I'm not all wrong.

I saw all the DIY solutions and long ago learned the cost of the materials is nearly irrelevant to the labor and PITA of cutting, gluing and praying it works.

For me the Wonderpana is a very well built solution that really works. Infinitely better than any DIY solution.
YMMV.

BTW @Privatebydesign, I am pleased my 100th post was a helpful one.

 

[privatebydesign]

Re: DIY filterholder

BTW @Privatebydesign, I am pleased my 100th post was a helpful one.

Normalnorm, it certainly was, I have seen the Fotodiox setup mentioned here before but never really investigated it. The feedback I have seen is generally happy with the quality of the 145mm polariser and that really is the only filter I miss for my 17 TS-E work. Your image sealed the deal.

Thanks again for your very helpful 100th post!

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Re: DIY filterholder

BTW @Privatebydesign, I am pleased my 100th post was a helpful one.

Normalnorm, it certainly was, I have seen the Fotodiox setup mentioned here before but never really investigated it. The feedback I have seen is generally happy with the quality of the 145mm polariser and that really is the only filter I miss for my 17 TS-E work. Your image sealed the deal.

Thanks again for your very helpful 100th post!

Another issue which isn't often talked about with Lee 100mm filters and TS-e adaptors...is that rear reflections can occur, where light and shadows bounce off the rear of the exposed oblong filter in the holder. Some fit large baffles, others us a back sock to mask out the reflections. Because the Wondapaner system uses circular filters which screw in the thread blocks this light leak.

 

[privatebydesign]

Well I just ordered my Wonderpana from Amazon, $269.95 with free shipping, should be with me around the 23rd.

I didn't go for the 66 kit and extras as they don't seem very well thought out for a bayonet mount accessory, to use a grad you'd have to take the "ears" off each time you rotated the camera.

Amazon has some very nice images of the TS-E17 bayonet mount which I have attached should anybody be interested in the future.

 

[ddl]

Fotodiox has just released the FreeArc version of the Wonderpana 66 which appears to allow unlimited rotation without having to disassemble (take the ears off).

Unfortunately the FreeArc is currently only available in kit or upgrade to the original mount for the Nikon 14-24mm.

I sent them an e-mail last week and they replied stating that they intend to have a FreeArc version for each lens that currently has a standard Wonderpana 66 mount. When they do I will probably buy their setup for the TSE 17mm F/4L.

I can see where the Lee system would have an advantage of being able to use on almost any other lens whereas the Wonderpana only fits two Canon lenses.

 

[privatebydesign]

Fotodiox has just released the FreeArc version of the Wonderpana 66 which appears to allow unlimited rotation without having to disassemble (take the ears off).

Unfortunately the FreeArc is currently only available in kit or upgrade to the original mount for the Nikon 14-24mm.

I sent them an e-mail last week and they replied stating that they intend to have a FreeArc version for each lens that currently has a standard Wonderpana 66 mount. When they do I will probably buy their setup for the TSE 17mm F/4L.

I can see where the Lee system would have an advantage of being able to use on almost any other lens whereas the Wonderpana only fits two Canon lenses.

Well that's annoying! My four day old filter system is obsolete........

 

[ddl]

It looks like the FreeArc adapter is now available for the Canon 17 F/4L TS-E, a 10 stop ND 145mm round filter is also rumored to be coming soon as per their forum.

 

[scarbo]

Having looked at the WonderPana 145 Essentials Kit I am interested in getting one for the polarizer. Could somebody who owns one post a picture of it mounted on the 17TS-E please? Whilst I can understand how it works on the 14mm and the Nikon 14-24 I don't see how it fits the 17TS-E without mounting on the focus ring. It would be a great help if I could see one before ordering, thanks.

Here you go. As you can see it is mounted via the bayonet of the lens cap. Very secure and does not vignette with movement.
Added Bonus is some protection of the front element.

Normalnorm, how are you finding the WonderPana 145 holder? There's not much information about it in the way of reviews. I'd like to know if it in any way marks the lens.

Anyone else should pipe in too if they own this holder. Thanks.

 

[privatebydesign]

Having looked at the WonderPana 145 Essentials Kit I am interested in getting one for the polarizer. Could somebody who owns one post a picture of it mounted on the 17TS-E please? Whilst I can understand how it works on the 14mm and the Nikon 14-24 I don't see how it fits the 17TS-E without mounting on the focus ring. It would be a great help if I could see one before ordering, thanks.

Here you go. As you can see it is mounted via the bayonet of the lens cap. Very secure and does not vignette with movement.
Added Bonus is some protection of the front element.

Normalnorm, how are you finding the WonderPana 145 holder? There's not much information about it in the way of reviews. I'd like to know if it in any way marks the lens.

Anyone else should pipe in too if they own this holder. Thanks.

It is a superb system. I got it and couldn't be happier. The holder is custom made and mounts to the lens cap bayonet mount of the 17 TS-E, it does not mark the lens at all, it is a much neater implementation that how they do it to the Nikon 14-24 as there is no locking collar.

They have since come out with a modification to the 66 part of the system, if you are a grad filter user then 100% get the FreeArc version, I am not so am quite happy with the cheaper and smaller original version.

Couldn't recommend this higher.

 

[scarbo]

Having looked at the WonderPana 145 Essentials Kit I am interested in getting one for the polarizer. Could somebody who owns one post a picture of it mounted on the 17TS-E please? Whilst I can understand how it works on the 14mm and the Nikon 14-24 I don't see how it fits the 17TS-E without mounting on the focus ring. It would be a great help if I could see one before ordering, thanks.

Here you go. As you can see it is mounted via the bayonet of the lens cap. Very secure and does not vignette with movement.
Added Bonus is some protection of the front element.

Normalnorm, how are you finding the WonderPana 145 holder? There's not much information about it in the way of reviews. I'd like to know if it in any way marks the lens.

Anyone else should pipe in too if they own this holder. Thanks.

It is a superb system. I got it and couldn't be happier. The holder is custom made and mounts to the lens cap bayonet mount of the 17 TS-E, it does not mark the lens at all, it is a much neater implementation that how they do it to the Nikon 14-24 as there is no locking collar.

They have since come out with a modification to the 66 part of the system, if you are a grad filter user then 100% get the FreeArc version, I am not so am quite happy with the cheaper and smaller original version.

Couldn't recommend this higher.

Thanks.

I find it strange that Fotodiox have not done more to show the implementation of the holder on the 17mm TS-E or any lenses that are not the Nikon 14-24mm. There are very few examples out there.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Having looked at the WonderPana 145 Essentials Kit I am interested in getting one for the polarizer. Could somebody who owns one post a picture of it mounted on the 17TS-E please? Whilst I can understand how it works on the 14mm and the Nikon 14-24 I don't see how it fits the 17TS-E without mounting on the focus ring. It would be a great help if I could see one before ordering, thanks.

Yep, I took a leap of faith with this system just as it was made available. I had to wait months for the various filters to become available. The ND filters are far from neutral, there's a gold colour cast which is quite strong. But it's certainly usable and the system works well. It's great to be able to use a polariser. But wrestling with 165mm filters out on a cold and windy morning can be a problem. One rain spot and it really shows in the final image and the size of the filters is a little bit like handling a large diner plate! Not a system to use in Cornwall, UK for windy landscapes!
Here you go. As you can see it is mounted via the bayonet of the lens cap. Very secure and does not vignette with movement.
Added Bonus is some protection of the front element.

Normalnorm, how are you finding the WonderPana 145 holder? There's not much information about it in the way of reviews. I'd like to know if it in any way marks the lens.

Anyone else should pipe in too if they own this holder. Thanks.

It is a superb system. I got it and couldn't be happier. The holder is custom made and mounts to the lens cap bayonet mount of the 17 TS-E, it does not mark the lens at all, it is a much neater implementation that how they do it to the Nikon 14-24 as there is no locking collar.

They have since come out with a modification to the 66 part of the system, if you are a grad filter user then 100% get the FreeArc version, I am not so am quite happy with the cheaper and smaller original version.

Couldn't recommend this higher.

Thanks.

I find it strange that Fotodiox have not done more to show the implementation of the holder on the 17mm TS-E or any lenses that are not the Nikon 14-24mm. There are very few examples out there.

 

[stephan00]

Sorry to revive this old thread, but I'm considering getting the wonderpana for the 17 myself and am a bit confused

Is this 145 Essential Kit custom made for the different lenses (like the Nikon 14-24, the Canon 17 TS, etc.) or will the same kit work with all of them? Particularly I'm wondering if the same kit will work for the 17 and the samyang 14 mm - and possibly the 16-35 2.8 II.

 

[privatebydesign]

Sorry to revive this old thread, but I'm considering getting the wonderpana for the 17 myself and am a bit confused

Is this 145 Essential Kit custom made for the different lenses (like the Nikon 14-24, the Canon 17 TS, etc.) or will the same kit work with all of them? Particularly I'm wondering if the same kit will work for the 17 and the samyang 14 mm - and possibly the 16-38 2.8 II.

Hi Stephan,

The kit for the 17 TS-E is custom, I strongly suspect all the others are too.

I have thought about making a convertor for the 17TS-E version to an 82mm thread, that shouldn't be too difficult and would give me more flexibility, but I haven't gotten round to it yet. But I don't see a way of making it fit the other lenses with petal shaped hoods/ends.

It might be worth a call to Fotodiox to ask how the core units fit to the filter holder, it is a bayonet mount, and you might find they will sell you the core units (the bits that attach to the lens) and you only need one filter holder for the Samyang and the 16-35, but I still don't see how that could interface with the unique lens cap mount bayonet arrangement they have for the TS-E.

 

[stephan00]

Thanks, I had feared as much . I'll have to ask Fotodiox directly then.