Firmware: EOS 5D Mark III Version 1.3.3

[NaturaLight]

No exposure compensation in AUTO ISO in M mode, like it was introduced in the last firmware of the 1DX I was waiting for that.

Me too. I asked Rick Sammon to pass that request on to Canon, and he said he would.

 

[NaturaLight]

1. Improves the AF controllability when shooting in Live View mode with a wide-angle lens (fixed focal length or zoom).

This must have been quite an issue to get (mostly) its own firmware release. Or is there other stuff not disclosed?

 

[rpt]

I am staying on 1.2.3

Yup! Same here. I have ML installed and I am not about to give it up!

Well, looks like we may have a ML port for 1.3.3 after all! Take a look at http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11017.msg138967#msg138967

 

[msatter]

I am staying on 1.2.3

Yup! Same here. I have ML installed and I am not about to give it up!

Well, looks like we may have a ML port for 1.3.3 after all! Take a look at http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11017.msg138967#msg138967

Thanks for the link and one of the new found strings is 'LP-E6N'

 

[parkylondon]

How about bringing a Second Curtain setting back into the body and not a Speedlight only setting...Thats all I want...That can be fixed via firmware upgrade right?

What's to fix? 2nd curtain sync can be set with the camera menu... Am I missing something?

As far as I know there is no such setting in the 5DkIII itself....only in speed light 600RT...

Page 194 of the 5DIII manual disagrees with you...

That's not it...First of page 194 is about flash sync. speed in AV mode which is not what I'm talking about..page 195 though is about Flash Function Settings but it's accessible only with a Speedlight attached...even with the ST-E3 attached you only get a first curtain sync and a high speed sync....it HAS to be a Speedlight...

I'm a bit confused. Initially, you stated that 2nd curtain sync can't be set on the camera itself, only on the Speedlite. But clearly that's not true, as 2nd curtain can be set in the 5DIII menus for an attached Speedlite. Now, I assume you're talking about 2nd curtain sync for remotely triggered off-camera flashes. It's true that isn't possible with the Canon wireless systems (neither optical nor RT). Note that even with a 600EX-RT in the hotshoe with 2nd curtain enabled, any slave flashes won't fire on the 2nd curtain. But you initially stated 'bring it back to the body'...when was that ever possible? It hasn't been recently, the 580/ST-E2 can't do it, either.

All the above kind of outline what my point was about.

What I want to be able to do (and mods, feel free to start another thread here) is have a trigger on my 5D3 able to instruct my remote flashes to fire on Second Curtain.

I don't want (or need) a flash mounted on camera - I want a TX there to fire a trio of YN460's in a risky spot (near the landing area of freestyle snowboarders). I want to do long exposure, at night, with light trails going in the right direction i.e. behind the line of travel. I cannot do that with the current firmware or, for that matter, the new firmware. And I want to.

 

[llocq]

How about bringing a Second Curtain setting back into the body and not a Speedlight only setting...Thats all I want...That can be fixed via firmware upgrade right?

What's to fix? 2nd curtain sync can be set with the camera menu... Am I missing something?

As far as I know there is no such setting in the 5DkIII itself....only in speed light 600RT...

Page 194 of the 5DIII manual disagrees with you...

That's not it...First of page 194 is about flash sync. speed in AV mode which is not what I'm talking about..page 195 though is about Flash Function Settings but it's accessible only with a Speedlight attached...even with the ST-E3 attached you only get a first curtain sync and a high speed sync....it HAS to be a Speedlight...

I'm a bit confused. Initially, you stated that 2nd curtain sync can't be set on the camera itself, only on the Speedlite. But clearly that's not true, as 2nd curtain can be set in the 5DIII menus for an attached Speedlite. Now, I assume you're talking about 2nd curtain sync for remotely triggered off-camera flashes. It's true that isn't possible with the Canon wireless systems (neither optical nor RT). Note that even with a 600EX-RT in the hotshoe with 2nd curtain enabled, any slave flashes won't fire on the 2nd curtain. But you initially stated 'bring it back to the body'...when was that ever possible? It hasn't been recently, the 580/ST-E2 can't do it, either.

All the above kind of outline what my point was about.

What I want to be able to do (and mods, feel free to start another thread here) is have a trigger on my 5D3 able to instruct my remote flashes to fire on Second Curtain.

I don't want (or need) a flash mounted on camera - I want a TX there to fire a trio of YN460's in a risky spot (near the landing area of freestyle snowboarders). I want to do long exposure, at night, with light trails going in the right direction i.e. behind the line of travel. I cannot do that with the current firmware or, for that matter, the new firmware. And I want to.

Exactly!!!

 

[Loswr]

Exactly!!!

Yes, but not exactly what you said in the first place.

I wouldn't mind remote control over 2nd curtain, even more I'd like remote control over the flash head zoom setting.

 

[AvTvM]

Exactly!!!

Yes, but not exactly what you said in the first place.

I wouldn't mind remote control over 2nd curtain, even more I'd like remote control over the flash head zoom setting.

Yes! BOTH are overdue. It is unacceptable that Canon did not updgrade their wireless ETTL-protocol at the same time they switched from optical triggering to radio triggering. It really is only a software/firmware topic ... if Canon is not able or "innovative" enouh to figure it out themselves, they should just ask a few ML programmers over, give them access to the source code and it would be fixed in a one-night session ... at little cost .. coffee plus a few beers maybe ... and a couple free ST-E3's and 600EX-RTs.

 

[Marsu42]

Yes! BOTH are overdue. It is unacceptable that Canon did not updgrade their wireless ETTL-protocol at the same time they switched from optical triggering to radio triggering.

I agree that esp. the lack of remote zoom is disappointing as this would have been the perfect moment, unless they plan to do ettl-3 with the 5d4 and the rumored 600ex-rt successor ("660ex-rt")...

It really is only a software/firmware topic ...

... but I disagree with this assessment: It's not only a fw upgrade, it is a fw upgrade.

If you see how important reliability is for Canon and how much Yongnuo struggles with their botched flash firmwares, Canon obviously didn't think they'd have the time (and/or r&d resources) to do it properly so they just added the group mode and transmit the proven ettl-2 via radio.

 

[AvTvM]

Adding 2nd curtain sync to a wireless remote flash protocol must be really easy. Even Nikon can do it ... for many years now. Even with old-style optical triggering. I am convinced, some ML guys could do it within very short time ... if Canon gave them proper access to the current wireless ETTL source code and fully specs for the hardware involved (ST-E3-RT and 600EX-RT)

 

[Loswr]

Adding 2nd curtain sync to a wireless remote flash protocol must be really easy. Even Nikon can do it ... for many years now. Even with old-style optical triggering. I am convinced, some ML guys could do it within very short time ... if Canon gave them proper access to the current wireless ETTL source code and fully specs for the hardware involved (ST-E3-RT and 600EX-RT)

I'm certain Canon could do it...they have just decided it doesn't meet the wants/needs of the majority and thus it's not worth the (comparatively minor) development costs.