first pic of canon mirrorless?

[mb66energy]

Possibly a EF adapter if you really want to put a 200 F/2 on it.

If the shorty fourty is a functional body cap, can this camera be a functional lens cap?

Yes it can. In my opinion. Most of the time my 10-22 is hanging around with a non-funcional lens cap and I would like to convert that seldomly used lens into a lens with functional lens cap - to make it more accessible (I really don't like to change lenses all the day). I am dreaming severeal years about that solution.

 

[Daniel Koons]

You have to remember the sensors rarely take up the whole area. The blue all the way around the sensor is not the sensor. If you measure edge to edge it would be APS-C, I included the actual numbers according to photoshop, ignoring the green it is definitely G1X sensor size. Zoom in check it out.

 

[sandymandy]

The mirrorless doesnt look like a DSLR replacement. It just got Automatic Mode, Video Mode and.....some other mode. Hopefully manual mode but it might be some effects sth stuff.

and yeah anyway no viewfinder, god im retarded.

 

[paul13walnut5]

@Eddie

Well maybe it's boring that they didn't invent a new autofocus system that would allow for small full frame autofocus lenses (a la the old Contax G?) The fact that it is not wildly aesthetically overbuilt like a leica m9 means it will be lighter and less expensive?

As much as I am a fan of the contax g cameras (I may still actually buy a g2 & standard lens) they are not as compact as the current mirrorless crop (full frame essentially) and the AF only works so well because of the seperate rangefinder optical path, which would add bulk to a camera that is supposed to be compact.

It's a nice idea but you would almost be as well with a rebel.

On the other hand if Contax ever came back with a digital G series camera...

 

[paul13walnut5]

@SandyMandy

The mirrorless doesnt look like a DSLR replacement. It just got Automatic Mode, Video Mode and.....some other mode. Hopefully manual mode but it might be some effects sth stuff.

It's pretty much aimed at folk upgrading from compacts, who want better IQ, but not more complexity.
I guess Canon see this is where the typical buyer is for this kind of camera, and if so I can kind of see their point.
Hopefully there will be a later model more worthy of the EOS name. As the Rebels prove you can have it easy and have it controllable.

 

[Daniel Koons]

so canon rumors sources are wrong about aps-c ?

well what a suprise

ps: you are 100% sure you measured the lens cap diameter as 43mm and not the lens diameter as 43mm?

I have used the 53 mm diameter of the EF mount (if it is an EF-Mount in size - position is rotated roughly 15 degree counterclock wise) and got the following result: 21.5 mm sensor width, 1.45 aspect ratio of the blueish-greenish area of the sensor. If they don't have an insane amount of sensor area for other purposes it should be APS-C ... hopefully

yep i think he is wrong.

22x16mm is my result.

You are measuring the whole area, not the sensor. Zoom in and bright it, it looks just like all the other sensors, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, mirrorless or DSLR.

 

[mathino]

@SandyMandy

The mirrorless doesnt look like a DSLR replacement. It just got Automatic Mode, Video Mode and.....some other mode. Hopefully manual mode but it might be some effects sth stuff.

It's pretty much aimed at folk upgrading from compacts, who want better IQ, but not more complexity.
I guess Canon see this is where the typical buyer is for this kind of camera, and if so I can kind of see their point.
Hopefully there will be a later model more worthy of the EOS name. As the Rebels prove you can have it easy and have it controllable.

Exactly ! I hope for more advanced model. This looks like a consumer one. I dont mind if advanced model becomes a bit bigger - better grip for people with larger hands.

...ok so we know how it could look like. Any info about specs ?

 

[Gothmoth]

You are measuring the whole area, not the sensor. Zoom in and bright it, it looks just like all the other sensors, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, mirrorless or DSLR.

we will see on monday who is right

 

[hoodlum]

This is what a 4/3 sensor looks like. The EOS M looks like 3:2

 

[htjunkie]

I don't know if it has been noted before in the thread, but there doesn't seem to be any way to easily dial-in your exposure like on the EOS bodies (and by easily, I mean dedicated buttons / wheels). Even the S95 has a dedicated ring in the front to help you dial in aperture, shutter speed or ISO.

 

[marekjoz]

I don't know if it has been noted before in the thread, but there doesn't seem to be any way to easily dial-in your exposure like on the EOS bodies (and by easily, I mean dedicated buttons / wheels). Even the S95 has a dedicated ring in the front to help you dial in aperture, shutter speed or ISO.

They maybe resolved this some smart way on the touchscreen? But wait. If this camera is for P&S market, then why someone would ever need change sth in exposure settings?

 

[Gothmoth]

This is what a 4/3 sensor looks like. The EOS M looks like 3:2

well it is sure no m43 sensor.... nobody wrote THAT.

question is APS-C or G1X sensor.

 

[Lee Jay]

Why so much hate on this camera? From first impressions, it's close to what we've been asking for.

What I've been asking for is for the kit zoom (and possibly a short prime) to fold entirely inside the body when power is off. This doesn't appear to have been accomplished.

 

[hoodlum]

I don't know if it has been noted before in the thread, but there doesn't seem to be any way to easily dial-in your exposure like on the EOS bodies (and by easily, I mean dedicated buttons / wheels). Even the S95 has a dedicated ring in the front to help you dial in aperture, shutter speed or ISO.

The maybe resolved this some smart way on the touchscreen? But wait. If this camera is for P&S market, then why someone would ever need change sth in exposure settings?

But if this is for the P&S market, you need a compact zoom lens not a prime. I still say the P&S market is better served with fixed zoom larger sensor compacts (ala RX100).

 

[hoodlum]

well it is sure no m43 sensor.... nobody wrote THAT.

question is APS-C or G1X sensor.

Who said it was a m4/3 sensor. You do know that the G1X sensor is 4:3 and APS-C is 3:2 format. That is the easiest way to determine which sensor is in the EOS M when looking at the pictures.

 

[Flake]

You have to remember the sensors rarely take up the whole area. The blue all the way around the sensor is not the sensor. If you measure edge to edge it would be APS-C, I included the actual numbers according to photoshop, ignoring the green it is definitely G1X sensor size. Zoom in check it out.

But what if your measure of 43mm is in the wrong place? Shouldn't it be on the outside edge of the lens where most other filter rings fit?

 

[Gothmoth]

well it is sure no m43 sensor.... nobody wrote THAT.

question is APS-C or G1X sensor.

Who said it was a m4/3 sensor. You do know that the G1X sensor is 4:3 and APS-C is 3:2 format. That is the easiest way to determine which sensor is in the EOS M when looking at the pictures.

yeah well if that´s what you wanted to say you could have that easier
i thought you posted that picture because you mean it´s an m43 sensor.

for me it looks not like 4:3 .. so another point for aps-c.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj524/picrumors/canonstuff/eosm3.jpg

 

[Gothmoth]

You have to remember the sensors rarely take up the whole area. The blue all the way around the sensor is not the sensor. If you measure edge to edge it would be APS-C, I included the actual numbers according to photoshop, ignoring the green it is definitely G1X sensor size. Zoom in check it out.

But what if your measure of 43mm is in the wrong place? Shouldn't it be on the outside edge of the lens where most other filter rings fit?

look how the lens cap is attached.. that is where the filters sit.
otherwise the sensor would be even smaller .. if the outer diameter is 43mm.

 

[bkslater]

You have to remember the sensors rarely take up the whole area. The blue all the way around the sensor is not the sensor. If you measure edge to edge it would be APS-C, I included the actual numbers according to photoshop, ignoring the green it is definitely G1X sensor size. Zoom in check it out.

Comparing dimensions of objects in different image planes is not valid. Objects at greater distances (i.e. the sensor) appear smaller. Dependent on the angle of view of the lens used to take the photos, the sensor may be in fact be APS-C.

 

[hoodlum]

well it is sure no m43 sensor.... nobody wrote THAT.

question is APS-C or G1X sensor.

Who said it was a m4/3 sensor. You do know that the G1X sensor is 4:3 and APS-C is 3:2 format. That is the easiest way to determine which sensor is in the EOS M when looking at the pictures.

yeah well if that´s what you wanted to say you could have that easier
i thought you posted that picture because you mean it´s an m43 sensor.

for me it looks not like 4:3 .. so another point for aps-c.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj524/picrumors/canonstuff/eosm3.jpg

Yes, it looks like an APS-C (3:2) sensor, not the G1X (4:3) sensor.