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TTMartin said:
No built in flash (perhaps it comes right from the hot shoe?) means: hot shoe is needed to use an external flash without wireless control.
From the markings on the door it seems to be a rubber door for the connectors (USB, HDMI, 3.5mm microphone jack, whatsoever)
22mm on APS-C are 35.2mm on FF - that is logic.
Just my opinion ... Best, Michael
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Think its a pretty decent looking thing. I do like it.
But what's most crucial to me is the picture quality. QUALITY.
From the latest picts, judging by the flange size relative to the filter ring 43mm and relative to the sensor, looks indeed to be APS-C sized sensor.
As for the part regarding no build-in flash but flash mount part ... neither does the 5D, 1D cameras ...
But what's most crucial to me is the picture quality. QUALITY.
From the latest picts, judging by the flange size relative to the filter ring 43mm and relative to the sensor, looks indeed to be APS-C sized sensor.
As for the part regarding no build-in flash but flash mount part ... neither does the 5D, 1D cameras ...
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After measuring the data from the pic (53mm max. internal mount diameter) I see
21.5 mm sensor width
1.45 aspect ratio
=> APS-C
... if I haven't made any mistakes, the images are real and the visible sensor area is nearly the imaging area.
One weird thing: the mount is very similar to the standard EF mount but ... it is rotated by roughly 15 degree counter clockwise ... so the adapter will never be a standard extension tube.
21.5 mm sensor width
1.45 aspect ratio
=> APS-C
... if I haven't made any mistakes, the images are real and the visible sensor area is nearly the imaging area.
One weird thing: the mount is very similar to the standard EF mount but ... it is rotated by roughly 15 degree counter clockwise ... so the adapter will never be a standard extension tube.
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Well, from the new pictures it seems an APS-C sensor indeed
For me the omision of flash is great, I preffer no flash than a useless flash; anyway, there is the 270EX which is pretty good and very pocketeable. I guess they will release an even smaller one for trhese cameras
If it does have a 3.5 shutter cable release and keeps the silent live view (I mainly shoot macro) I am in; it would be my second body for macro (first is 5D mkII) and would be the only camera I would take to the street when travelling
The only thing I fear is the sensor IQ is going to be well behind NEX cameras
For me the omision of flash is great, I preffer no flash than a useless flash; anyway, there is the 270EX which is pretty good and very pocketeable. I guess they will release an even smaller one for trhese cameras
If it does have a 3.5 shutter cable release and keeps the silent live view (I mainly shoot macro) I am in; it would be my second body for macro (first is 5D mkII) and would be the only camera I would take to the street when travelling
The only thing I fear is the sensor IQ is going to be well behind NEX cameras
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maxxevv said:Think its a pretty decent looking thing. I do like it.
But what's most crucial to me is the picture quality. QUALITY.
From the latest picts, judging by the flange size relative to the filter ring 43mm and relative to the sensor, looks indeed to be APS-C sized sensor.
As for the part regarding no build-in flash but flash mount part ... neither does the 5D, 1D cameras ...
Looks to me like this will be entry level model. I hope that there will be some more advanced one. But APS-C sensor size is very welcome. Maybe Ill trade my 450D for something like this after I get FF
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funkboy said:
How great would be if this toy might have a dual mode: active, ordinary one and passive like in Kindle for work in the bright day.
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I'm afraid this one will die on controls.
The blurred shot of the back suggests there is a thin clickable wheel around the fourway buttons - the same one I found utterly unreliable and clumsy to use on the G1 series. If this turns out to be true, the camera will be completely useless to anyone with bigger hands used to handling 40D/7D/5D+ bodies. (Doesn't Canon do product testing outside Japan as well?)
Other than that, most EOS users will be jealous of what appears to be the focus assist lamp on the mirrorless... Why can't Canon copy at least that feature from Nikon?
The blurred shot of the back suggests there is a thin clickable wheel around the fourway buttons - the same one I found utterly unreliable and clumsy to use on the G1 series. If this turns out to be true, the camera will be completely useless to anyone with bigger hands used to handling 40D/7D/5D+ bodies. (Doesn't Canon do product testing outside Japan as well?)
Other than that, most EOS users will be jealous of what appears to be the focus assist lamp on the mirrorless... Why can't Canon copy at least that feature from Nikon?
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quartzie said:
"It's AF capabilities don't require additional focus assist. The photographed subject will always subconsciously enter into the DOF. This is the first camera to move the earth as even buildings and trees will enter into the focus. Proudly presenting the first camera designed with Chuck Norris"
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Looking at the diameter of this f:2 lens front element in relation
to the flange diameter....... I guess we're up to extremely fast
and still compact glass in the future, maybe.
If video quality in Full HD is good and allows full manual exposure,
I'm certainly in for one.
MQ
to the flange diameter....... I guess we're up to extremely fast
and still compact glass in the future, maybe.
If video quality in Full HD is good and allows full manual exposure,
I'm certainly in for one.
MQ
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nice consumer grade camera, but imho not for pros (unless with some stellar picture quality and ISO performance), look so similar to nikon j1/v1, but as all we have seen nikon drew a blank with those two models. I don't know why canon doesn't look at what others do before starting to make a new camera.. 
I'll wait for the full specs hoping in a top notch autofocus at least..
I'll wait for the full specs hoping in a top notch autofocus at least..
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If it really host the barrage of EF lenses I will own this camera. I never thought I'd say that, but having all this glass it'd be so fun to be able to put that on such a small camera on stay a little more discrete when shooting.
A Pancake 40 would look perfect on it.
A Pancake 40 would look perfect on it.
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alfeel said:nice consumer grade camera, but imho not for pros (unless with some stellar picture quality and ISO performance), look so similar to nikon j1/v1, but as all we have seen nikon drew a blank with those two models. I don't know why canon doesn't look at what others do before starting to make a new camera..
I'll wait for the full specs hoping in a top notch autofocus at least..
I don't think that J1/V1 from Nikon are comparable to the EOS M due to their sensor size. With adaptor I can use my lens range as I used it with my 40Ds - the 10-22 will stay a 16-35 equiv lens. I don't want to buy into different systems except perhaps FF - and I collected my lenses according to that change.
Let's see the EOS M as an intelligent back cap for my 10-22 that I use very seldom but it would be great to have fast access to its focal range with an EOS M attached to it.
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