first pic of canon mirrorless?

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#201
bottom line.....

this camera may is an disappointment for photographers... but it´s only the first camera in a long line.

so if you don´t like this camera (and i don´t like it that much) wait for the pro model and the evolution of the line.

im happy that it´s aps-c... great things to come.
now canon has to show a few great M-mount lenses.
 
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I don't see the missing flash as an issue. The viewfinder is something else. They have chosen a very compact form factor, what is quite good, but Sony has proven with the Nex7 that it is achievable to have such a form factor without sacrificing the VF.
Canon seems to propose a serious contender to the Nex3 and maybe to the Nex5 (if touchscreen allows advanced controls), now I hope for a Nex7 rival. But I do like that one already.
 
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EchoLocation said:
If this is indeed APS-C, I'm very intrigued.
The only real problem I see with this camera is no pop up flash and no viewfinder.....
Why does Canon think someone in a mirrorless system is going to want to carry around a seperate flash unit.... I hate that Canon doesn't put pop ups on their DSLR's.
I am also very curious if this EF-M can take FF in the future. Because there is no pop up flash, viewfinder, and the fact that there is sure to be an upgraded specs version of this I will wait to join Canon Mirrorless... but once these things are in FF, I will jump on it instantly.
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I would guess it has an ultra-bight LED in the upper left corner. With higher ISO capabilities a constant on LED will give about the same perfromance as the low guide number flashes on early Rebels.

edit: Canon Digital Rebel (300D) has/had a built in flash with a guide number of 13 (ISO 100, meters)
 
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Canon EF-M 18-55 IS Lens & Flash Image

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eosbit said:
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.
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I really like the textured 7D grip instead of the little strip grip on this thing. That alone would make me more interested in this camera.
 
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Re: Canon EF-M 18-55 IS Lens & Flash Image

mrsfotografie said:
18-55 points to an APC-C sensor?

That flash may be good for me when travelling with my 5DII 8)
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What I'm wondering as well is whether there will be greater reliance on software (or silicon) to correct spherical (and possibly chromatic) aberration. That could possibly see small(er) sharp(er), (relatively) more affordable lenses, but a greater reliance on the in-camera JPG engine or post-processing in software to correct aberrations.
 
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eosbit said:
gmrza said:
eosbit said:
I overlayed a 7D and lined up the mounting ring as best I could (first pic), then traced around the sensor on the 7d and overlayed that on the EOS-M (second pic).

Pretty sure that's aps-c we're looking at.
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What also intrigues me is that it looks like the diameter of the lens mount is large enough to accomodate a full frame sensor. It looks like Canon may be playing the long game here, with a view to a strategic investment in a system which can be extended, rather than looking for a quick win.
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Of course it's large enough, it's an EF series mount. But you're right, Canon (as usual) are playing the big picture long game here. They would never put everything on the plate straight away, got to leave enough features out to enable yearly upgrades.
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You need it to be EF sized, to use the adaptor for all of our EF lenses... which it most certainly will have...

Now.. mirrorless FF? I think it's unlikely. You'd have to create another mount.. same flange distance as the EF-M, lenses with larger full frame image circles.. it probably wouldn't be able to use EF-M lenses, unless they do a crop mode like Nikon...
 
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You need it to be EF sized, to use the adaptor for all of our EF lenses... which it most certainly will have...

Now.. mirrorless FF? I think it's unlikely. You'd have to create another mount.. same flange distance as the EF-M, lenses with larger full frame image circles.. it probably wouldn't be able to use EF-M lenses, unless they do a crop mode like Nikon...
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It is not an EF sized mount. You will need an adapter for two reasons. Increase the flange to sensor distance and also to physically mount the larger EF or EF-S mount to the smaller EF-M mount.

This is also true when mounting Sony Alpha mount lenses to their Sony E mount NEX cameras.

By my rough calculations the EF-M lens mount would be about 15% smaller than an EF or EF-S mount.

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6950rpm said:
Are those extra contacts on the hot shoe and if so, has anyone else noticed them?

Could that mean that the hot shoe is for something else in addition to a flash?
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yes i have posted about them before.
thought it could be for an EVF.. but could be screws also.

thought i have no camera that has screws on the hotshoe.
 
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