Full Frame Astrophotography DSLR Coming [CR1]

niels123 said:
Djaaf said:
Ha stands for H-Alpha, one of the primary emission band of the Hydrogen.
It's a deep red that's pretty much invisible to human eyes and so the filters before the sensor tend to cut it out.
But in the Astro-photo domain, that's the principal band of light since most of the universe is Hydrogen (emmission nebula emits mostly in that band (M42, California, Laguna, etc...) It's not that important for galaxies or stellar cluster which emits light in pretty much every band).
So conventionnal Canon DSLRs cut out something like 60-70% of your most useful frequency in Astro..

That's mostly why there's a few companies providing filter replacement for DSLR. Once the new filter is installed, you have to use a custom white-balance to take daylight picture because the red channel will be a lot stronger than before, but you can still use the camera normally.
The filter replacement operation is not cheap though (around 300-400€ depending on the camera) and the warranty is immediatly voided by the operation. So, Canon offering "a" models is mostly a good news.

If you still got questions, shoot, i'll try to answer. :)

Djaaf

Would an a model be the same as a modified camera where the low-pass filter has been removed: is there a difference between full-spectrum modification and the a-model in terms of IR-landscape photography? (I use clip-in filters, so I don't want a visibile-light block filter on my sensor).

Thanx!
Niels
a models from Canon were reported as not getting as much Ha sensitivity boost as modified cameras.
I guess a modified 6D camera is the best value for money... (and possibly just best for now...)
 
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Hm - sitting over here in germany I tried to get a sneak preview on the 60Da on photokina exhibition in cologne years ago - surprise, surprise - canon invested only in stupied people running around - no 60Da - no information - nothing. Wasted time at all... :-\

Anyway - since I purchased years ago for my 60D a so called clip-filter from Astronomik I stumbled over this article

http://www.astronomik.com/en/news/astrophotography_with_a_unmodified_canon_6d/

trying to find out if purchasing new 5d IV makes sense or not (by the way: has someone compared a 5D III (USB 2.0) with IV (UDB 3.0) about downloading astro images via USB - and how performs WIFI ???)

Article describes experiance of a NZ astrophotographer finding that 6D has a quite good H-Alpha sensitivity compared to other cameras - since the 60Da has problems with shifted colors / balance a potential astro-camera should be a 6D-based one with selected sensors and a removable IR-filter - replacing it by a sort of clip-on filter so that an amateur can switch quickly between different filters - or place a camara without filter behind a filter wheel. Result would be a 6D able to be used as "normal" DSLR and as astro-camera by removing quickly the filter. Another 60Da piece of crap makes no sense at all...

...if a 7D-based camera makes sense I dont know since 6D is APS-C and 7D is Full. So 7D chips by 99% have same poor H-Alpha sensitivity then other cameras - except 6D. Split-brain benefit: Full frame - many telescopes do not have a large enough focusser (diameter) so that vignetted pics are result - i.e. FF resolution is wasted.

Frank
 
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solaris said:
Hm - sitting over here in germany I tried to get a sneak preview on the 60Da on photokina exhibition in cologne years ago - surprise, surprise - canon invested only in stupied people running around - no 60Da - no information - nothing. Wasted time at all... :-\

Anyway - since I purchased years ago for my 60D a so called clip-filter from Astronomik I stumbled over this article

http://www.astronomik.com/en/news/astrophotography_with_a_unmodified_canon_6d/

trying to find out if purchasing new 5d IV makes sense or not (by the way: has someone compared a 5D III (USB 2.0) with IV (UDB 3.0) about downloading astro images via USB - and how performs WIFI ???)

Article describes experiance of a NZ astrophotographer finding that 6D has a quite good H-Alpha sensitivity compared to other cameras - since the 60Da has problems with shifted colors / balance a potential astro-camera should be a 6D-based one with selected sensors and a removable IR-filter - replacing it by a sort of clip-on filter so that an amateur can switch quickly between different filters - or place a camara without filter behind a filter wheel. Result would be a 6D able to be used as "normal" DSLR and as astro-camera by removing quickly the filter. Another 60Da piece of crap makes no sense at all...

...if a 7D-based camera makes sense I dont know since 6D is APS-C and 7D is Full. So 7D chips by 99% have same poor H-Alpha sensitivity then other cameras - except 6D. Split-brain benefit: Full frame - many telescopes do not have a large enough focusser (diameter) so that vignetted pics are result - i.e. FF resolution is wasted.

Frank
The basic advice given out for years in photography is that if you are going to shoot in low light conditions, go FF. Since astrophotography is the king of low light photography, it would make sense for an "A" camera to be based on the 6D.....
 
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