Future 7D Mark III

[ronaldbyram]

Hey Gang,
I know we are in the middle of the 6D Mark II and SL2 reported News releases.

But Question... I know the 7D Mark II was released September 15, 2014 and it will be 3 years this year. and that Camera makers are always racing to release the next DSLR with the hottest features. With the Nikon D500 and now the SOny A9. What guesses would you want on a 7D Mark III wish list?
Wi-FI? Removal of Anti alsis filter? TWO High speed CF or SQD cards? faster Shutter? Faster SD cards? Any other software features. I dont think we need 4K.. Is it time for a action Beast?

 

[geonix]

It will have to be better than the 7D2 and at least a bit better than the D500. But what features it should/would have depends on when (and if) it comes to market.

If it comes next year to photokina (like the last one) it could have a slight increase in MP, slight increase in fps, hopefully an improved AF and 4k (30p at least). Maybe something really new to the line like touchscreen and tilt-display (if that doesn't canabalise the 80D too much)

If it comes later, maybe it would be something different. Like a mirrorless in a dslr body (to still support EF lenses), or something different alltogether.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Yes, the 7D Mark III can be anticipated to compete with the Nikon D500. Maybe still in 2018.

One CFast card slot and the other SD UHS-ii, not XQD.
Video 4K is quite likely, or it would look like old technology in spec sheets.
Ful HD 120 FPS.

 

[[email protected]]

On-chip ADC would be my favorite addition, due to increase in image quality. That's a certainty, as even the 80D has that now.

I'd also like to see the tilty/flippy. I've had about 10 ticks on me over the past few days while rolling in leaf litter getting pictures of lady slippers. There's no good reason for the anti t/f snobbery.

Putting the 5D4's 30mp sensor, or something thereabouts is perfectly doable with 10 fps. I'd rather see the fps stay at ten and the mp rise than the other way around.

 

[Deleted member 91053]

For me - I would like the 7D3 to have better AF (say from the 1DX Mk1?), the battery grip updated to accept 1 series batteries - with the camera being capable of dealing with the higher voltage, newer tech sensor with a couple less MP - both to improve higher ISO. Two card slots of the same type would be nice - don't care what they are so long as they keep up! Current frame rate is fine (I run mine at 9fps) though a slightly faster "Silent Mode" fps may be appreciated by some?

As to wi fi, GPS, video, 4K etc? I care so little that it is difficult to find the words - if 1p/1c could be saved by not incorporating them I would appreciate the saving! Not going to happen though!

As a wildlife photographer I find the 7D2 is pretty good - so a Mk3 with improved AF, 2 similar card slots, improved high ISO and nice big batteries would be very attractive to me.

 

[Aussie shooter]

Ahh. The hoped for 7d3 specs again. 24mp?(as long as there is still an improvement in high ISO noise performance), Touch screen(not T/F), 10fps, On chip ADC, probably 4k(don't care), Better AF processing hopefully(number of points is fine). Apart from that it really doesn't need much improvement.

 

[BillB]

On-chip ADC would be my favorite addition, due to increase in image quality. That's a certainty, as even the 80D has that now.

I'd also like to see the tilty/flippy. I've had about 10 ticks on me over the past few days while rolling in leaf litter getting pictures of lady slippers. There's no good reason for the anti t/f snobbery.

Putting the 5D4's 30mp sensor, or something thereabouts is perfectly doable with 10 fps. I'd rather see the fps stay at ten and the mp rise than the other way around.

The 7DII 20mp APS-C sensor is more dense than the 5DIV 30 mp FF sensor. By my calculations, the new 24 mp APS-C sensor would scale up to 62mp full frame. Could that be the path to a 5DsII? Not that big an mp bump, but dual pixel and on board ADC would be part of the package.

 

[LonelyBoy]

On-chip ADC would be my favorite addition, due to increase in image quality. That's a certainty, as even the 80D has that now.

I'd also like to see the tilty/flippy. I've had about 10 ticks on me over the past few days while rolling in leaf litter getting pictures of lady slippers. There's no good reason for the anti t/f snobbery.

Putting the 5D4's 30mp sensor, or something thereabouts is perfectly doable with 10 fps. I'd rather see the fps stay at ten and the mp rise than the other way around.

The 7DII 20mp APS-C sensor is more dense than the 5DIV 30 mp FF sensor. By my calculations, the new 24 mp APS-C sensor would scale up to 62mp full frame. Could that be the path to a 5DsII? Not that big an mp bump, but dual pixel and on board ADC would be part of the package.

That's my assumption. 6D2 and SL2 this year, then 24mpx 7D3 and 62mpx 5DS/R2 next year, then start the whole thing over again with the 1DX3.

 

[9VIII]

I still want a 50MP APS-C sensor, and that coming in the form of a "7DS" seems most likely. Maybe not a "7DMkIII" but still a new "7D" of sorts.

As for the 7DMkIII proper, I think they should wait until they have a universal shutter and Back Side Illumination in their own sensors. Otherwise competition from Sony would probably make the 7D3 obsolete before it comes out.
They could probably give a high end APS-C SLR a faster burst rate than the 1DX2, the smaller mirror should be able to move faster, and as long as they have a digital shutter working then I'm betting an SLR could come much closer to the burst rates of Mirrorless cameras.

 

[9VIII]

Given how much trouble everyone is having with 4K video, I think they should at least aim for 1440p 60fps.
It's still twice the resolution of Full HD and looks better on a 4K display even if it's not "4K".

 

[AlanF]

Doesn't anyone want to ditch the AA filter? The superior IQ of the 5DSR when cropped over the current 7DII is clear. I'd like a switchable AA. Faster mirror? Only if it can have lessened slap. Better AF? Yes. More mp? Ok for fast lenses but slow telephotos are diffraction limited now. On-chip ADC is taken for granted now.

 

[9VIII]

Doesn't anyone want to ditch the AA filter? The superior IQ of the 5DSR when cropped over the current 7DII is clear. I'd like a switchable AA. Faster mirror? Only if it can have lessened slap. Better AF? Yes. More mp? Ok for fast lenses but slow telephotos are diffraction limited now. On-chip ADC is taken for granted now.

When the 5DSR came out it seemed like half the forum was saying how horrible it was that Canon was making a camera that encouraged irreversible moire.

I'm not one of those people, but the impression I got is that AA filters are still desirable in this neck of the woods, and that seemed to be for birding in particular with feathers that are notorious for causing moire.

If Canon still puts AA filters on the 1D line then the same logic would apply to the 7D.

 

[SteveM]

Timeline suggests the 7D series come out 2 yrs after the 1D series, so, this time next year I imagine. Keep the AA filter, same fps is good, same mp is good, but, high ISO noise must be improved and the af. It will have built in wifi, flippy screens are nice, but are they a liability? I sincerely hope they keep the onboard flash, ugly light they may produce, but it is better than no shot at all due to lack of light, perfectly adequate for fill as well when you don't wish to carry a 600.

 

[midluk]

Timeline suggests the 7D series come out 2 yrs after the 1D series, so, this time next year I imagine. Keep the AA filter, same fps is good, same mp is good, but, high ISO noise must be improved and the af. It will have built in wifi, flippy screens are nice, but are they a liability? I sincerely hope they keep the onboard flash, ugly light they may produce, but it is better than no shot at all due to lack of light, perfectly adequate for fill as well when you don't wish to carry a 600.

AFAIK, the other cameras with metal bodies (5D4 and 1DX2) have their wifi and GPS in the viewfinder housing. I doubt Canon manages to put wifi (and/or GPS) and internal flash in there at the same time.

I also think the 7D3 is unlikely to have a fully articulating screen, but limited up/down tilt might be possible.

 

[hbr]

Yes, the 7D Mark III can be anticipated to compete with the Nikon D500. Maybe still in 2018.

If Canon sticks with their current 5 year upgrades, I don't expect it until 2019. I bought my 6D in 2012 and now it is 2017 and I am still waiting on the Mark II,

We can hope for 2018 though.

 

[LonelyBoy]

Timeline suggests the 7D series come out 2 yrs after the 1D series, so, this time next year I imagine. Keep the AA filter, same fps is good, same mp is good, but, high ISO noise must be improved and the af. It will have built in wifi, flippy screens are nice, but are they a liability? I sincerely hope they keep the onboard flash, ugly light they may produce, but it is better than no shot at all due to lack of light, perfectly adequate for fill as well when you don't wish to carry a 600.

AFAIK, the other cameras with metal bodies (5D4 and 1DX2) have their wifi and GPS in the viewfinder housing. I doubt Canon manages to put wifi (and/or GPS) and internal flash in there at the same time.

I also think the 7D3 is unlikely to have a fully articulating screen, but limited up/down tilt might be possible.

How many people use the built-in flash on the 7Ds anyway?

 

[IglooEater]

How many people use the built-in flash on the 7Ds anyway?

I know a few who own 7D's and they all do. It's an acceptable solution for optically triggering speedlights, and a good deal less expensive than getting Canon's proprietary radio triggers. The case can be made that a Yongnuo RT might be more effective and as cost-effective.

 

[BillB]

Doesn't anyone want to ditch the AA filter? The superior IQ of the 5DSR when cropped over the current 7DII is clear. I'd like a switchable AA. Faster mirror? Only if it can have lessened slap. Better AF? Yes. More mp? Ok for fast lenses but slow telephotos are diffraction limited now. On-chip ADC is taken for granted now.

Even with diffraction, you will get some benefit from more mp, just not as much. Guessing at the 7DIII design philosophy (high FPS etc) not sure what the mp sweetspot would be anyway. The simplest choice might be to adapt the 24mp sensor that they are putting in everything else.

Are there any issues with ditching the AA on an APS-C sensor?

 

[LonelyBoy]

How many people use the built-in flash on the 7Ds anyway?

I know a few who own 7D's and they all do. It's an acceptable solution for optically triggering speedlights, and a good deal less expensive than getting Canon's proprietary radio triggers. The case can be made that a Yongnuo RT might be more effective and as cost-effective.

In this context, however, where it's "crappy built-in flash OR wifi/GPS", I'd rather have the wifi and GPS and put a 90EX in my pocket for when I need an optical master, or a bit of fill. But maybe that's just me. No one was talking about taking the flash away in exchange for nothing, though.

 

[rrcphoto]

Hey Gang,
I know we are in the middle of the 6D Mark II and SL2 reported News releases.

But Question... I know the 7D Mark II was released September 15, 2014 and it will be 3 years this year. and that Camera makers are always racing to release the next DSLR with the hottest features. With the Nikon D500 and now the SOny A9. What guesses would you want on a 7D Mark III wish list?
Wi-FI? Removal of Anti alsis filter? TWO High speed CF or SQD cards? faster Shutter? Faster SD cards? Any other software features. I dont think we need 4K.. Is it time for a action Beast?

hmmm my guess:

24mp DPAF sensor as seen in the 80D
4K h.264 video (first time in a canon DSLR)
separate DIGIC 5+ for AF with 1DX Mark II AF including ITR
dual CF card slots
flip LCD (like the M5/M6 - not fully articulating)
Hybrid EVF/OVF first time in a Canon DSLR

That'd all be nice