Canon1 said:
johnf3f said:
Sorry but this thread would only make sense if one were posting unedited RAW files taken under controlled conditions. Once processing is allowed we are looking at the skill of the person processing the image not just the capabilities of of the camera + lens.
I really don't understand the constant Canon vs Nikon squabbles - for my uses Canon is better but for many others Nikon is a better choice.
So the best advice is choose - don't waste time on endless and pointless discussions which resolve nothing and inform nobody.
Interesting. That is the entire point of this thread. You are a quick study.
The camera brand is irrelevant. Many people here on cr argue vehemently for one brand over another... Trying to convince each other through theory, physics and math. Bottom line... None of it really matters. Whether a camer has 10 stops of DR or 11 or 12... Doesn't matter!
Also, to further my point... No one shares raw files. They are not finished products. It's the capture and the post processing of these files that makes an image. The intent of this thread is not to actually compare sensors or brands... It's to point out that while those details can make a difference to some... In the big picture it really just doesn't matter. Even the people who an extra stop or two of DR makes a HUGE difference, it is only in a tiny percentage of the images they make.
I applaud the point you are trying to make.
I've never gotten the Nikon vs. Canon thing myself. Just as I've never gotten the APS-C vs. Full Frame fight.
I've tried to make the point many, many times that the most inexpensive DSLR today is light years ahead of what could be produced during the film era.
But, the reality is: 1) people need to justify their purchases, so they "see" differences that either don't exist or don't matter; 2) some people have a deep seated need to have the "best" and they take offense when they perceive that someone else might own a product that is "better" even though it may be in some small, insignificant way; 3) Some people just like to be argumentative and get their jollies by making outrageous statements and watching people react; 4) Some people are unable to reconcile the reality that they may not be the greatest photographer who ever walked the earth and think that if they just had the other guy's camera they would be a better photographer; 5) Some people just need to be on a "team" and root for their side.
ecka said:
Camera brand matters mostly before shooting and while editing the image, not after all the work is done.
I think you miss the point. Camera brand doesn't matter.