HELP! Shooting my first wedding tomorrow!!!
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Re: Gear / shooting recomendations for first wedding tomorrow!!
This statement is not necessarily true. You are far more likely to loose data from a memory card that you routinely fill completely or almost completely. Cards use advanced algorithms to keep data cells rotating. If you fill smaller cards to capacity, your probability of data corruption or complete card failure goes up exponentially. With this in mind. You are statistically safer using one huge 32GB or 64GB card, and only filling it half way, before pulling it and putting in a new card. As long as you are using professional grade, NAME BRAND cards, your probability of data loss with this method is significantly less than filling multiple 8GB cards to the brim. This is one of those things photographers are not generally very educated about. If you are going to use 8GB cards, avoid filling them all the way. Fill them to 6gb or so before putting in a new memory card. Now, if you are using the 5D3 we have DUAL CARD SLOTS! YAY!
agierke said:
This statement is not necessarily true. You are far more likely to loose data from a memory card that you routinely fill completely or almost completely. Cards use advanced algorithms to keep data cells rotating. If you fill smaller cards to capacity, your probability of data corruption or complete card failure goes up exponentially. With this in mind. You are statistically safer using one huge 32GB or 64GB card, and only filling it half way, before pulling it and putting in a new card. As long as you are using professional grade, NAME BRAND cards, your probability of data loss with this method is significantly less than filling multiple 8GB cards to the brim. This is one of those things photographers are not generally very educated about. If you are going to use 8GB cards, avoid filling them all the way. Fill them to 6gb or so before putting in a new memory card. Now, if you are using the 5D3 we have DUAL CARD SLOTS! YAY!
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Re: Gear / shooting recomendations for first wedding tomorrow!!
Kind of wanted to jump in here as I would like to get the right gear for wedding photography as well. I did one last year with some rented equipment to add to my own. I currently have a 5D Mark III, 24-105L, 20-700 f/4, and just sold my 10-22 efs and hopefully will be selling my efs 60mm macro. I'm looking at the 50 1.4 and possibly the 100 2.8 macro so I can have a macro for FF, though I like the looks of the 100mm f/2 as well. But I want to make sure the lenses are fast enough, granted I can now push the ISO way more than before with my old Rebel. Do I NEED the 35 1.4, 24-70 2.8, 135 2.0 or 70-200 2.8 (nonL)? Funds are limited, so I can only do just one or two lenses for now in the higher price range, but which one, if any? So many experienced individuals here that any advice would be so appreciated
D.Cain - like your bio. Right there too.
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Kind of wanted to jump in here as I would like to get the right gear for wedding photography as well. I did one last year with some rented equipment to add to my own. I currently have a 5D Mark III, 24-105L, 20-700 f/4, and just sold my 10-22 efs and hopefully will be selling my efs 60mm macro. I'm looking at the 50 1.4 and possibly the 100 2.8 macro so I can have a macro for FF, though I like the looks of the 100mm f/2 as well. But I want to make sure the lenses are fast enough, granted I can now push the ISO way more than before with my old Rebel. Do I NEED the 35 1.4, 24-70 2.8, 135 2.0 or 70-200 2.8 (nonL)? Funds are limited, so I can only do just one or two lenses for now in the higher price range, but which one, if any? So many experienced individuals here that any advice would be so appreciated
D.Cain - like your bio. Right there too.
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Hey everyone!
Well I am glad to report the wedding went off without a hitch and I ended shooting about 1800 exposures throughout the day. I used the 70-200 and 24-105 on 2 5D mark IIs around my neck during the ceremony, environmental and portraits at about a 2-1 ratio in favor of the 70-200. (I could feel it in my wrists and shoulders on Sunday) I actually really enjoyed the 24-105 (the wedding was outside on a bright sunny day) but you can't beat the 70-200 2.8 II for the portraits!! The background just melts away.
During the reception I just glued the 35 1.4 L on the 5D and occasional bounced a flash for more light. Most were available light shots and the 35mm was a godsend. It's like the lens creates light!!
Anyway, thanks to all for the advice and posts.
+1 to all
Well I am glad to report the wedding went off without a hitch and I ended shooting about 1800 exposures throughout the day. I used the 70-200 and 24-105 on 2 5D mark IIs around my neck during the ceremony, environmental and portraits at about a 2-1 ratio in favor of the 70-200. (I could feel it in my wrists and shoulders on Sunday) I actually really enjoyed the 24-105 (the wedding was outside on a bright sunny day) but you can't beat the 70-200 2.8 II for the portraits!! The background just melts away.
During the reception I just glued the 35 1.4 L on the 5D and occasional bounced a flash for more light. Most were available light shots and the 35mm was a godsend. It's like the lens creates light!!
Anyway, thanks to all for the advice and posts.
+1 to all
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prestonpalmer said:
Thanks Preston! Btw I really like your work. I checked out your website. Great stuff!
Take care
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Even though your wedding has come and gone, I'll still share my two cents.
Most important thing to do is bring back up camera. God forbid something happens to your camera you'll sill be operational.
And I have to disagree about checking with the minister before hand about restrictions. If no one imposes restrictions on you without you asking them, then just do what you need to do to get the best photos you can. You know the old saying "its better to seek forgiveness than ask permission"? Its better to GET THE SHOT and piss someone off, than be a good boy and miss your opportunity. You are the photographer. So what if they get mad?? (the officiant, not the client). They are not going to make you delete that great shot you took against the rules. And I'm sure your client will thank you for it. I know *I* would rather hire a photographer who is willing to do whatever he has to to get the shot. Thats the difference between a pro and an amateur. Pros go above and beyond. Yes, I realize your not a pro, but in this situation you are taking on the role of the pro, so it still applies
Remember, the awkward situation is temporary, the photo lasts forever.
Plus, ive NEVER shot anywhere that didn't let me use flash. NEVER. ever. I've been shooting professionally for over 5 years. I don't know what these people are talking about who say MOST venues don't allow flash. So do what you must to get the photo and plea ignorance to get the angry venue workers to go away.
And if you do get harassed by a venue employee, just ignore them. They don't know your workflow or style. I was "yelled at" by an employee at a venue for eating at the same time as the guests. She wanted me to let the guests eat first because it is more "professional" to let them go first. BULL. I need to eat first so im not stuffing my face when everyone else is done and things are starting to happen that I'll miss if im eating. Venue people are not photographers and dont know what really is best, so ignore them if you can. (Just don't get yourself kicked out)
Most important thing to do is bring back up camera. God forbid something happens to your camera you'll sill be operational.
And I have to disagree about checking with the minister before hand about restrictions. If no one imposes restrictions on you without you asking them, then just do what you need to do to get the best photos you can. You know the old saying "its better to seek forgiveness than ask permission"? Its better to GET THE SHOT and piss someone off, than be a good boy and miss your opportunity. You are the photographer. So what if they get mad?? (the officiant, not the client). They are not going to make you delete that great shot you took against the rules. And I'm sure your client will thank you for it. I know *I* would rather hire a photographer who is willing to do whatever he has to to get the shot. Thats the difference between a pro and an amateur. Pros go above and beyond. Yes, I realize your not a pro, but in this situation you are taking on the role of the pro, so it still applies
Remember, the awkward situation is temporary, the photo lasts forever.
Plus, ive NEVER shot anywhere that didn't let me use flash. NEVER. ever. I've been shooting professionally for over 5 years. I don't know what these people are talking about who say MOST venues don't allow flash. So do what you must to get the photo and plea ignorance to get the angry venue workers to go away.
And if you do get harassed by a venue employee, just ignore them. They don't know your workflow or style. I was "yelled at" by an employee at a venue for eating at the same time as the guests. She wanted me to let the guests eat first because it is more "professional" to let them go first. BULL. I need to eat first so im not stuffing my face when everyone else is done and things are starting to happen that I'll miss if im eating. Venue people are not photographers and dont know what really is best, so ignore them if you can. (Just don't get yourself kicked out)
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I really enjoy this thread. I'm an amateur with a new 5d mark iii, and I'll be occasionally asked to do events, family things, etc. I've always been in awe of you wedding photographers, so I really appreciate your sharing your experience and trade secrets with the rest of us. I will never photograph a wedding (because I'd be a nervous wreck... more than the couple themselves!), but things like class reunions, my nephew's Eagle scout court of honor, etc. would all greatly benefit from my taking your advice and practicing the tips you dispense. Thanks to all of you.
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Three very important things to know as a wedding photographer.
1. The law of the lesser pisser. That is, if you ever need to choose between who gets pissed off, you or someone else. Always choose to piss off the others. Instead of yourself. (clients excluded. This applies to everyone trying to tell you what to do) A perfect real world example of this is cutting in line for the airport check-in. (which I just did 5 min ago). I would rather piss off an entire line of people rather than be pissed off for missing my flight after an epic 3 day documentary video shoot with the new 5d3's.
2. It is always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
3. Smile, nod, agree. Then do whatever the heck you were gonna do anyway.
Good luck with your wedding career!
1. The law of the lesser pisser. That is, if you ever need to choose between who gets pissed off, you or someone else. Always choose to piss off the others. Instead of yourself. (clients excluded. This applies to everyone trying to tell you what to do) A perfect real world example of this is cutting in line for the airport check-in. (which I just did 5 min ago). I would rather piss off an entire line of people rather than be pissed off for missing my flight after an epic 3 day documentary video shoot with the new 5d3's.
2. It is always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
3. Smile, nod, agree. Then do whatever the heck you were gonna do anyway.
Good luck with your wedding career!
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So glad you agree!prestonpalmer said:
I felt like I might be the only one here who followed that mantra.
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