How excited are you about the new 7D II?

[Hjalmarg1]

I certainly is an improvement from the old 7D, specially in AF terms and speed. Some more resolution has been put on the sensor, intervalometer and GPS have been added and few more features. Obviously the target are wildlife and sport photographers that want the extra reach of an APS-C camera.
How excited are you about the new 7D II?

 

[mkabi]

Well, like many have said already, it is like a Mini-1DX.
And, that is certainly not untrue, given the 1DX's abilities.

Sure, many say that it doesn't have this and it doesn't have that (specifically WIFI, 4K, etc.)... well... I don't remember any rumor saying that it will be vastly better than the 1DX either (where it would be mini-1DX with WIFI, 4K, etc.).

I just hope that in that since they created a mini-1DX, they will also create a mini-1DC too

 

[Richard8971]

I think it's a pretty impressive camera, even though it may be a year or two late. But then again, up until the 70D and the Nikon D7100 (and maybe even the D7000) the 7D really didn't have much competition in the APS-C world and still sold very well at the price range over the past couple of years. I have seen the price drop to as low as $1000 for a new body, that's an incredible price for such a capable camera. A lot of my photography friends shoot with the 7D, and I mean ALOT!

Now it looks like the 7D2 will raise the bar yet again. Everything about it looks good. The thing I am waiting for? I need to SEE how good the image quality is at higher ISO's. Do I expect it to be as good as FF? Not at all, but I want it to be better than my current 7D. I think the image quality will be good, or at least I'm hoping it will be.

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[dickgrafixstop]

I'd like to think that Canon has a plan......but this announcement makes me wonder. I'd personally rather buy
two 7DmkI bodies or even a 6D for the money. Most of the new announced features are things I don't need and would never use - like anything GPS or video related. Even the 70D is a better fit for me in general. The new
lenses are also ho-hummers. The 24-105 is "nice", but a discounted 25-105 L is "nicer" and not that much more.
The pancake is a big "so what" as an EF-S lens and the 400 at nearly 7 grand - might be good for pros with
expense accounts or folks with more money to spend of photo gear that I want to. In general, I think Canon
pitched four balls and I'll walk.

 

[Sabaki]

I'm super excited! Like DAMN!!! There's a horny, naked Sofia Vergara in my room kinda excited!

The fact I'm upgrading from a 500D is even more reason to be.

 

[mb66energy]

The camera is very well specced on paper - except tilt display, touch screen and wifi which made it a "complete camera" for a few bucks more.
Very interesting: The correction of aberrations and distortion e.g. during movie mode with the EF-S 10-22 which has visible CAs.

But the real interesting "not-on-paper" specs are - for me - (1) very high IQ at low ISO, (2) fine IQ at higher ISOs and (3) a extremely reliable AF system. Reliable means that the AF does what I intend it should do.

If the per pixel image IQ is like that of my 40D I will have 40% more size (linearily) with the same quality: fine, might be my next main camera and replace one 40D and the 600D completely.

So ... just waiting for a bunch of reviews to filter out if this camera might be the right tool for me.


EDIT:
Forgotten to describe my degree of excitement: As you can see from my reasoning I am moderately excited. But this might change if I get hands on that camera and the excitement might growing while using a good tool over several years! 7D ii has the potential to do so ...

 

[leGreve]

I guess it depends on your purpose of purchase. As a photographer, I can see the idea of this camera, although…. why not either boost the sensitivity of the chip to compete with Sony's A7s or boost the pixels so you don't feel like you are licking the 5D3 in the ass….

What could really make the Canon 7D II look like bullshit is the Samsung NX1 which was just announced:

http://www.nofilmschool.com/2014/09/samsung-nx1-new-4k-mirrorless-shoots-h265

The specs:

28.2MP BSI APS-C CMOS sensor
4096 x 2160: 24 fps
3840 x 2160: 30 fps
1920 x 1080: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
1280 x 720: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
640 x 480: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
Clean HDMI 4:2:2 (8-bit)
H.265 Codec applied to 4K and UHD video files
Tiltable 3.0″ HD 1036k-dot touchscreen
205 phase-detection AF points
15 fps burst mode
1/8000 Max Shutter Speed
ISO range from 100 to 51,200
Camera can utilize UHS-I or UHS-II-SD-type memory cards
1/8" Headphone, 1/8" Microphone, HDMI D (Micro), USB 3.0
802.11b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi capability coupled with Bluetooth 3.0 technology
Samsung NX Lens Mount
Price: $1,500 Body Only, $2,800 with 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S ED OIS Lens

 

[LSV]

The 7D2 looks like a perfect camera for serious amateur sports/wildlife photographers who cannot afford the 1DX. Some will complain about the sensor's quality being short of current Sonikon's, but it's unreasonable to expect the 7D line to get the technology upgrade before the 5D and 1D lines.

 

[heptagon]

I guess it depends on your purpose of purchase. As a photographer, I can see the idea of this camera, although…. why not either boost the sensitivity of the chip to compete with Sony's A7s or boost the pixels so you don't feel like you are licking the 5D3 in the ass….

What could really make the Canon 7D II look like bullshit is the Samsung NX1 which was just announced:

http://www.nofilmschool.com/2014/09/samsung-nx1-new-4k-mirrorless-shoots-h265

The specs:

28.2MP BSI APS-C CMOS sensor
4096 x 2160: 24 fps
3840 x 2160: 30 fps
1920 x 1080: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
1280 x 720: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
640 x 480: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
Clean HDMI 4:2:2 (8-bit)
H.265 Codec applied to 4K and UHD video files
Tiltable 3.0″ HD 1036k-dot touchscreen
205 phase-detection AF points
15 fps burst mode
1/8000 Max Shutter Speed
ISO range from 100 to 51,200
Camera can utilize UHS-I or UHS-II-SD-type memory cards
1/8" Headphone, 1/8" Microphone, HDMI D (Micro), USB 3.0
802.11b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi capability coupled with Bluetooth 3.0 technology
Samsung NX Lens Mount
Price: $1,500 Body Only, $2,800 with 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S ED OIS Lens

Unfortunately the NX mount is made incompatible to the EF mount.

While the NX1 has better specs and the better sensor it lacks one thing and that is the advanced phase AF of the 7DII. If Samsung made an NX1 with an fully functional EF mount it would win hands down in all categories except maybe low light sports.

 

[Akatombo]

Waited patiently for the mk 2 , and now am still undecided. would have liked wifi, for my event work, gps, not so much. With the price point of the 5d mk3 coming down, the $1800 for a 7d-2 makes for a tough call. wonder how good the sx60 would be on birds... wanting many of the features on that p&s

 

[stefsan]

For me as a 7D owner, the mkII looks very impressive on paper. I will decide how excited I am when I see some reliable tests concerning sensor performance and IQ.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

The fps and AF and most basic body specs are awesome. So it should be awesome at that core stuff.

But the lack of 4k and a new sensor process is worrisome for the future which is bad since I was always looking more towards the 5D4. I'm no longer sure if the 5D4 will even be able to match Emor or have 4k video. Everyone who has spoken with Canon reps is sounding super negative all of a sudden about the chances for even the 5D4 to get 4k video. I find that shocking and hard to believe. But I'm getting told that if I expect 4k on the 5D4 that I'm most likely setting myself up for disappointment as Canon still feels 4k is a super premium feature only fit for the $8000+ class buyer for the foreseeable future. And they don't even see them giving it basic low end features like focusing aids or zebras and such.

And some feel that they may not even have an Exmor like sensor ready even for the 5D4 either.

I've purchased 6 different and 7 total Canon DSLR, but I'm getting a bad feeling it may be time to quit.
For the first time I'm really stating giving all sorts of other items from other brands really serious looks.

 

[aj1575]

I guess it depends on your purpose of purchase. As a photographer, I can see the idea of this camera, although…. why not either boost the sensitivity of the chip to compete with Sony's A7s or boost the pixels so you don't feel like you are licking the 5D3 in the ass….

What could really make the Canon 7D II look like bullshit is the Samsung NX1 which was just announced:

http://www.nofilmschool.com/2014/09/samsung-nx1-new-4k-mirrorless-shoots-h265

The specs:

28.2MP BSI APS-C CMOS sensor
4096 x 2160: 24 fps
3840 x 2160: 30 fps
1920 x 1080: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
1280 x 720: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
640 x 480: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
Clean HDMI 4:2:2 (8-bit)
H.265 Codec applied to 4K and UHD video files
Tiltable 3.0″ HD 1036k-dot touchscreen
205 phase-detection AF points
15 fps burst mode
1/8000 Max Shutter Speed
ISO range from 100 to 51,200
Camera can utilize UHS-I or UHS-II-SD-type memory cards
1/8" Headphone, 1/8" Microphone, HDMI D (Micro), USB 3.0
802.11b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi capability coupled with Bluetooth 3.0 technology
Samsung NX Lens Mount
Price: $1,500 Body Only, $2,800 with 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S ED OIS Lens

Remember, those are only specs; I'm looking forward to a real world test of the Samsung, it will be interesting to see how well the camera actually works. With the 7D MkII you can be quite sure that it works like advertised, and I think it will be a damn good camera at this price point.

 

[aj1575]

I like the specs of the camera, it looks really good. There are three things mentioned which are missing: WiFi, touch screen and swivel display. I could live without WiFi (have it, but use it rarely), the swivel display is nice (especialy on the tripod with special angels), and the touch screen is a must have feature once you used it.
These are minor shortcomings, and you will get used to it.

I'm still waiting for the infos and the review of the sensor; how "new" will it be?
There are a few clues; I haven't seen the "very low noise" mentioned for the 70D, also the ISO range they give is can be a hint, even though this is also a marketing tool. The 16'000 are a bit strange, since canon so far stuck to full ISO steps. The 16k puts in above the 70D, but still below the 6D. These could mean two things, first, it is not much better than the 70D, or second it is much better than the 70D, even close to the 6D but they can't specify it like this, because a FF has to better than a APS-C.

Anyways, we will see it in the coming weeks.

 

[insanitybeard]

As others have said, the real dealmaker/breaker for me will be how much it manages to improve on IQ over the original 7D, if it's a substantial improvement across the ISO range then I may well be tempted, most of the other specs look like incremental improvements over the original model, which is no bad thing, and the addition of the dual pixel AF will be good for video, and the phase detection AF looks like quite a step up. I await some reviews with interest!

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Yep, for me to buy another 1.6x crop camera, it will need to have great low iso ability. Matching my 5DIII...if not it's a waste of a great camera casing.

 

[Datfish]

7D Mkii looks to be one fine piece of kit!.... and so does the D750 BTW.

As a current owner of a 7D and the 5d3 I appreciate both of their different functional placements in the EOS lineup.
I am essentially a "stills only shooter" and as such more than interested in the improvements in the 7D2, relative to the original 7D, as below:

a) Noise Levels at Higher ISO and overall low light performance
b) 65 cross type AF Points and the improved AF tracking performance.
c) Buffer increase impact and increased FPS.


These three are key to me....and if they are not significantly improved in real world use it will be a bit ho hum...but I suspect they will be awesome.... and the improved build and weather sealing will be a positive

The ergonomics almost perfectly mirror the 5D3 which I think is great not only because I am familiar with the setup but also because they are intuitive...to me!

Sure there are other new features but they are no so important to me , nice but not important. As for Video.... I don't really care as I have used video twice on my 7D classic, in over 4 years of ownership.

The 7D2 is targeted clearly at the sports / wildlife market so it needs to do the things that that segment needs really well!.... the rest is just "extras".

I suspect it will do GREAT....lets see from hands on and real world reviews/tests.

Oh...and BTW .... the price is approx. the same as the release price of my 7D in 2009.

 

[Khalai]

Yep, for me to buy another 1.6x crop camera, it will need to have great low iso ability. Matching my 5DIII...if not it's a waste of a great camera casing.

Crop sensor matching FF sensor in ISO dept. What would be the point of going FF then? FF will always be better, pure physics (more than twice the area for light gathering).

 

[Leejo]

For me it is interesting and exciting enough.
As a 7D owner I await still the reports on sensor Performance before committing (next year)

Plusses -

• better sensor - we will see how good
• even better AF
• dual cards
• interchangeable screens
• saves me a larger Investment in 5D Mk III and corresponding lens Upgrades! - which aren't in the Budget for next year

Sweetners -

• Sensible price
• GPS
• even better weather sealing
• intervalometer (OK would be available with Magic Lantern and I don't use it - but...

Missing / Minuses

• WiFi - not for Facebook but for control - though Canon Need to fix their WiFi implementation
• no Radio Flashlight Control (though I still have optical Flashes) - would rather have the Pop up than have to buy RC Flashes though
• 4 k Video - although I personally don't shoot anything that would need it
• Flip out Screen - just for the very rare cases - but I would rather have the sealing and robustness
• Touch Screen - but only if one can turn it off almost all the time (e.g. via separate lock switch) - as I miss hit enough Buttons/dials normally when carrying the camera around - don't want another large source of incorrect
• Spot AF as per 1 Series - OK just dreaming
• anything else radically new...

so nearly everything that I want is there - a correctly implemented WiFi would have been the one thing.
If only there was an add on for WiFi and Radio flashlight control.... (built into a battery grip ?)

I know there is potentially better equipment potentially available, but as an amateur it's positioned right for me once I bite towards next year.

 

[leGreve]

I guess it depends on your purpose of purchase. As a photographer, I can see the idea of this camera, although…. why not either boost the sensitivity of the chip to compete with Sony's A7s or boost the pixels so you don't feel like you are licking the 5D3 in the ass….

What could really make the Canon 7D II look like bullshit is the Samsung NX1 which was just announced:

http://www.nofilmschool.com/2014/09/samsung-nx1-new-4k-mirrorless-shoots-h265

The specs:

28.2MP BSI APS-C CMOS sensor
4096 x 2160: 24 fps
3840 x 2160: 30 fps
1920 x 1080: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
1280 x 720: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
640 x 480: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
Clean HDMI 4:2:2 (8-bit)
H.265 Codec applied to 4K and UHD video files
Tiltable 3.0″ HD 1036k-dot touchscreen
205 phase-detection AF points
15 fps burst mode
1/8000 Max Shutter Speed
ISO range from 100 to 51,200
Camera can utilize UHS-I or UHS-II-SD-type memory cards
1/8" Headphone, 1/8" Microphone, HDMI D (Micro), USB 3.0
802.11b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi capability coupled with Bluetooth 3.0 technology
Samsung NX Lens Mount
Price: $1,500 Body Only, $2,800 with 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S ED OIS Lens

Unfortunately the NX mount is made incompatible to the EF mount.

While the NX1 has better specs and the better sensor it lacks one thing and that is the advanced phase AF of the 7DII. If Samsung made an NX1 with an fully functional EF mount it would win hands down in all categories except maybe low light sports.

Not true:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/995046-REG/fotodiox_eos_nx_samsung_nx_camera_lens.html

While it leaves you manual it's workable, especially for video where you would be shooting manual focusing anyways.