How soon should Canon update the 7D Mark II

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Some of the members of our local photoclub do own the 7DII, and we recogniced, that there is a wide spread of image quality and AF performance. We took some studio shots and compared the images. And there is really a wide range of quality difference. I was not in luck, mine has an impaired IQ and an unstable AF. Sometime sharp, most times not.... Sent three times to Canon, got three times back with no improvement. Nothing they can do. I should sell m,ine and buy another one. Maybe then I have better luck.

So, I would like to see an upgade earlier. But I know this will not happen. The 7DII sells quite well, when I believe the salesnumbers from an bigger store in Germany. So, There is no need to hurry for Canon. Yes, Canon is technologically behind its peers (IQ & DR, AF performance), but the customer semms not to care about that.

Canon can do better. Just look at the 80D, that is in most cases practically better than my 7DII. Some features are less highlighted (e.g. 27 AF points at f8), but the improvement we see n the 80D are definitely not small.

note: I hope the 5DIV will be a game changer, otherwise the A9 will be mine.

I bought my 7D II one year ago online at Cyberport. I always was a little bit unhappy with the image qualtity. The focus was never really spot on and differed on each focus point. Sent it to CPS near Leipzig twice, but it didn't really improve. So last weak I wrote Cyberport that I either want a completely working model or my money back. At first they acted a little bit dumb. But after reminding them about their dutys and sending them the CPS reports they told me to send the camera back. They will check it and then give me my money back.
If I would sell it, I would get about 600€ less than I paid for it and somehow I don't agree with that. Hope it works out, but I'm not sure if I will buy a 7D II again, because the 5D IV seems pretty close...

 

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Some of the members of our local photoclub do own the 7DII, and we recogniced, that there is a wide spread of image quality and AF performance. We took some studio shots and compared the images. And there is really a wide range of quality difference. I was not in luck, mine has an impaired IQ and an unstable AF. Sometime sharp, most times not.... Sent three times to Canon, got three times back with no improvement. Nothing they can do. I should sell m,ine and buy another one. Maybe then I have better luck.

So, I would like to see an upgade earlier. But I know this will not happen. The 7DII sells quite well, when I believe the salesnumbers from an bigger store in Germany. So, There is no need to hurry for Canon. Yes, Canon is technologically behind its peers (IQ & DR, AF performance), but the customer semms not to care about that.

Canon can do better. Just look at the 80D, that is in most cases practically better than my 7DII. Some features are less highlighted (e.g. 27 AF points at f8), but the improvement we see n the 80D are definitely not small.

note: I hope the 5DIV will be a game changer, otherwise the A9 will be mine.

I bought my 7D II one year ago online at Cyberport. I always was a little bit unhappy with the image qualtity. The focus was never really spot on and differed on each focus point. Sent it to CPS near Leipzig twice, but it didn't really improve. So last weak I wrote Cyberport that I either want a completely working model or my money back. At first they acted a little bit dumb. But after reminding them about their dutys and sending them the CPS reports they told me to send the camera back. They will check it and then give me my money back.
If I would sell it, I would get about 600€ less than I paid for it and somehow I don't agree with that. Hope it works out, but I'm not sure if I will buy a 7D II again, because the 5D IV seems pretty close...

Hmm, I hope you get your money back. The shop where I bought it, will not be so customer friendly.
I am not exaggerating. In my local photo club, many of my friends are not happy with the quality fluctuations. Canon CPS can´t do anything against it, because the problems are hardwarerelated - and they do not know, if another e.g. sensor works better. For the price of this camera a high level quality assurance is not possible, otherwise Canon will earn no profits anymore.

But on the other side, some of my friends own an 80D, as an "better" 7DII. And they are quite happy with it. This week we compared pictures from the same heron, parallel taken with exactly the same camera setup and the pictures are visibly much better. Better details, less noise,... My 7DII gets awfully noisy over Iso 400. My friends 80D had an comparable amount of noise at Iso 1600.
Harder it is to compare the AF. So we did some baseline comparison at an shooting range on an sunny day, where we tried to follow the incoming or leaving targets (maximal distance 100m)for 5 cycles each.
Moving directly toward me, my 7DII is not able to deliver sharp pictures. Only less than 10 pictures out of more than 120 are nearly sharp. If the target leaves, the number of sharp pictures gets more than doubled. If the target moves diagonally, the sharp picture rate increases up to one third. But only, if you use maximal the one point - AF surrounded by 8 or nine points. Zone AF and using all points do not work properly. The same situation occurs at other 7DIIs. Interestingly, the 80D and the 5DIII works much better, also the 1DX (that has an excellent AF system). The few 5DS our members own have the same problems with the AF. The 80D´s AF works quite fine. Yes, lower fps, but double the number of sharp and noiseless shots. So, what would you like better?
(BTW: The D500 and D750have an excellent AF system, also - interestingly the 7RII mounted on an 70-400m sony lens)

I like the crop, as I get crop small birds better. (I know, most dedicated wild life shooter will shake their heads. For them the 5DIII is lowest baseline.)


You know, why I am a friend of an 7DII replacement and hoping for an strong successor of the 5DIII. (Hope is the last to die! I fear the 5DIV gets just an small update)