Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price

[stu_cj]

Re: Any Rumors on 5D Mk II Price Drop $ Figures?

It seems that the biggest talking-point about this new camera is the price and how many people will not pay it (along with how we get shafted in the UK )
I really can't see (unfortunately) any price-drop on the Mk2 as it will impact sales of those who were holding off to buy a Mk3 but who are now having second thoughts about it.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a price increase on the Mk2 actually to make people then think that they may as well splash the extra cash on the 3.

 

[iFugl]

I would be happy to pay $3500 for it, heck, even $4000.

Here in Norway, the price is 29.990,- which is exactly $5340

That just makes me sick!

 

[Studio B]

Everyone's so quick to express how displeased they are about the price. Do remember, among other things, that the sensor has been completely redesigned from the ground up.

Once we see images from actual users I believe opinions will change.

About the new sensor....

"The EOS 5D Mark III features a newly developed Canon full-frame 22.3 Megapixel CMOS sensor that?s designed from the ground up to create high resolution, perfectly detailed images with unprecedented speed and clarity. A full 24 x 36mm, the sensor captures 5784 x 3861 large individual 6.25 µm pixels and has a much-improved S/N ratio resulting in better images from the start. A new photodiode structure with an increased photoelectric conversion rate increases the sensor's sensitivity by approximately 2 stops over previous models, meaning higher ISOs with the lowest noise of any EOS digital camera. And a 2-line 8-channel simultaneous signal readout means speeds of up to 6.0 fps (RAW + JPEG) are possible!"

 

[AprilForever]

Here in the USA:

5Dmk III + 300 2.8 (my main lens) + 2x TC

THAT"S OVER 9000!!!!

 

[HurtinMinorKey]

The price relative to the d800 makes sense. Canon won a lot of market share with the 5d mkII, so they figure they can price a camera which is the same overall quality(with different strengths) above the competition because of switching costs. Canon must feel that 700 is less than the switching cost, and they are probably right.

 

[cliffwang]

We, as consumers, should demand more. I still maintain that the 5D3 should be <= $3k. I'm not a professional, nor do I make big $$, so $3500 is a significant chunk of change for me. If I had a 5D2, I couldn't see myself justifying spending $3500 (+ tax) for the 5D3. I currently have a 60D, and I've been looking to jump up to FF, but I'd rather get a budget FF (<$2k) with 3-4 fps, less sophisticated AF and AE, etc.; I may end up with a 5D2 assuming the price drops.

Are you serious?! This ISNT A CONSUMER CAMERA! You "maintain that the 5D3 should be $3k" because that's the price limit you had set in your head and now you're disappointed that it's not. I don't get it, there will always be stuff that people want but can't afford, but usually they just get the next cheapest alternative that fits their budget...but with this everyone is complaining and screaming about how it's not worth it.

If you don't have the money, they make other cameras that do not cost $3500, I suggest you get one of those. And you can say it's not worth $3500 all you want, but if the thing sells out obviously there are enough people that DO think it's worth it.

Agreed! That's why I decide not buying 5D3 for now. I am sad, but no complain. Hopefully the retail price will be around 3K later.

 

[Daniel Flather]

$3799 here in Canada, and I get a 16gb card with it; a Lexar 16 GB PRO 400X CF Memory Card. So Canada has one of the lowest price around (me thinks).

From the main page here:


From Camera Canada

Canon 5D Mark III Body $3799 (CAD)



Sure I'd like to pay $2999, but no dice. If you want it —pay.

 

[AprilForever]

OVER 9000!!!!

Sorry, couldn't resist! So, yes, I am looking forward to the much cheaper 7d MK II, which will retail at a cheap-as-free 2500, probably...

 

[CowGummy]

Although I can't justify paying the money myself at this point in time, I do feel the price is totally fair. You get what you pay for and let's face it, this isn't a Rebel or a Powershot... This is is a pretty pro piece of kit and any professional photographer will recoup the cost for a 5DIII in a couple of months or so (I'm thinking wedding pros here). In which other industry is that possible? I work in the publishing and printing business and when printers have to upgrade their presses it will take a couple of years before they recoup costs, often longer. I also have a friend who runs his own chauffeur driving business. He will only buy Mercedes S-Class cars because that's what the clients expect, but it will take him over a year to recoup on his investment with a new vehicle.
So pro photographers would not have any issues with paying $3500, it's those of us that don't earn big bucks with our photography (myself included) that will be upset about the high price. I mean how many of us here drive a new S-class Mercedes?... So by all means bring on the smiting, but I think Canon could have priced it at $4000 and it would still sell by the truck load.

 

[K-amps]

OVER 9000!!!!

Sorry, couldn't resist! So, yes, I am looking forward to the much cheaper 7d MK II, which will retail at a cheap-as-free 2500, probably...

I doubt by the way things are going.

Before the 5d3 release there was all this talk of Crop guys upgrading to FF's... with Canon's new pricing, FF'ers are now looking at Crop sensors...

 

[awinphoto]

Re: Any Rumors on 5D Mk II Price Drop $ Figures?

There is no way in heck as an amateur I'll be able to justify the mark III, but I'm probably going to buy the mark II, but not sure when it will be safe to do that. I've found a good price here:

http://bestpricephoto.com/h/product_info.php/canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-211-megapixel-digital-camera-body-p-17452?csv=gg&osCsid=bf0b926da9798ef2fae7a536460da34e

But, do we expect it to drop further than that?

STAY AWAY from that website. Look at it on resellerratings.com. You will never get your camera from them at the agreed to price. It's well known scam.
I think the 5d mk ii will get down to $2k new, so hopefully we can find them used for around $1700 when people start selling off theirs to upgrade.

bait and switch, stay away

 

[awinphoto]

The price relative to the d800 makes sense. Canon won a lot of market share with the 5d mkII, so they figure they can price a camera which is the same overall quality(with different strengths) above the competition because of switching costs. Canon must feel that 700 is less than the switching cost, and they are probably right.

If you make it, they will come, i mean buy

 

[awinphoto]

Now since it appears the 5d2 is staying, at least for the time being, on canon's roster in the lineup, I do wonder if they will jack the prices back up to reflect the tiers of cameras... 7d 1600, 5d2 2600, 5d3 3500, 1dx 6000... Hope so so I can get more on my 5d2 sell to offset my 5d3 purchase.

 

[tivoboy]

some of this, is of course currency related as the Yen is pretty much still at an annual and long term high (much to their industrial disappointment) Some of this, is just retail pricing and there will be a bit of a drop over short term. And some of it IS merited, the camera is a much stronger camera than the MkII.

 

[caMARYnon]

Although I can't justify paying the money myself at this point in time, I do feel the price is totally fair. You get what you pay for and let's face it, this isn't a Rebel or a Powershot... This is is a pretty pro piece of kit and any professional photographer will recoup the cost for a 5DIII in a couple of months or so (I'm thinking wedding pros here). In which other industry is that possible? I work in the publishing and printing business and when printers have to upgrade their presses it will take a couple of years before they recoup costs, often longer. I also have a friend who runs his own chauffeur driving business. He will only buy Mercedes S-Class cars because that's what the clients expect, but it will take him over a year to recoup on his investment with a new vehicle.
So pro photographers would not have any issues with paying $3500, it's those of us that don't earn big bucks with our photography (myself included) that will be upset about the high price. I mean how many of us here drive a new S-class Mercedes?... So by all means bring on the smiting, but I think Canon could have priced it at $4000 and it would still sell by the truck load.

I think you don't want to understand ... 3500 maybe 4000 US$ for 5d3 is ok but you could pay 5000 ?

 

[Axilrod]

The price shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, as the price was posted on CR several weeks ago, and it was suggested that it would be over $3k a month ago. Everyone believed the specs but chose to ignore the price. I could understand the disappointment if CR had said it was going to be $2500, but that wasn't the case. The price wasn't any higher or lower than predicted, so it shouldn't really be a shock to anyone..

 

[Kliphten]

The price shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, as the price was posted on CR several weeks ago, and it was suggested that it would be over $3k a month ago. Everyone believed the specs but chose to ignore the price. I could understand the disappointment if CR had said it was going to be $2500, but that wasn't the case. The price wasn't any higher or lower than predicted, so it shouldn't really be a shock to anyone..

The price was a rumor, just like the rest of the specs were. Now that it is official, we are voicing our opinions. If we did earlier, everyone would just tell us to chill as the price was not official.

 

[birdman]

I am extremely happy with its $3,500 price point. Now I can get top dollar for my used 5d2 and either get this or the "other" DSLR in this "general" price range.

I am disappointed with MP count, no USB 3.0, no AF on video, and a few other quips. I think they could have done a little better for $3,500, but who am I to judge this?

I am a landscape/street photographer and cannot see a reason to upgrade, really. I will wait on reviews and see how much I still love my 5d2. It's been phenomenal.

Its funny how high are standards have gotten, relatively speaking. I am not immune to it, that's for sure.

 

[Quasimodo]

I have not had the chance to read all the post in this thread, so sorry if I repeat anything you have heard before.

The price might be shocking, but I just saw the price in Norway (29995 NOK) and did a exchange search to the current dollar; 5.342,5... It is stiff; but the specs are so close to the 1DX that one could be tempted to see it as cheap 1DX

 

[biggles_no1]

I have seen quite a few comments suggesting that Pro photographers have no problem paying the high prices and its only the amateurs and dreamers who have issues with it.

Personally I have a hard time understanding that. Isn't Pro photography a business? And isn't it the function of a business to make as much profit as possible, i.e. make as much money for as little outlay as can be managed? Maybe some people think paying more for your kit makes you more of a "Pro" than others? I dont know.

Some justify the price by saying things like "yeah but look the technology is improving and all that costs big bucks, look at what they did with the sensor and what about R&D for the 5D Mark IV? etc . . ." It's my observation that in practically every other area technology is getting more and more sophisticated while also getting cheaper and cheaper.

And I am not just talking about mainstream high volume items where shear numbers enables pricing to be very low. I have other niche hobbies like music recording and amateur radio. In amateur radio the hot thing right now is Software Defined Radio. Incredible and previously unheard of power possible through hugely more powerful A/D chips while being comparably cheaper than the tech it replaces. And that is all done in a niche market that is much smaller than the intended customer base for the 5D. R&D for this tech is currently progressing at a very rapid pace.

I dont think that the problem is just the price being £3000 its also about the perceived value for money in a world where more sophisticated tech is getting increasingly cheaper.

Just my 2 cents

Jason