I jumped ship...
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if he indeed did jump ship to Nikon now, I would be surprised since there were many people jumping ship to Canon from Nikon because of Nikon QC and dishonest customer treatment with its D600(which is now confirmed to be replaced).
Nikon did never issue proper FW update to the camera with many many FW related design flaws, and now it suddenly replacing it with a minor updated body.
this is really you know rude to us who actually bought a D600 camera or current D800 owners having experienced the infamous left AF issue.
they should have admitted these 2 overrated toy cameras actually have many hardware and software related issues and should have announced recalls.
But Nikon has never admitted it and just replacing them , it is really stupid , in the long run they will lose a lot of loyal customers who bought high end FX Nikon bodies and would have spent a lot of money into Nikon F mount.
Seriously that company is choosing to please wrong kind of cheap headed customers who just buy a cheap body and kit lens and all done, stupid.
Nikon betrayed us and even shafted.
I am still keeping at least two Nikon bodies (D800E and D600 for now) but I am not sure I will keep them if they really announces the D610 and discontinues the D600 without recalling it(for the infamous oily dust issue) or announcing real solution to fix the FW design flaw (it does not allow controlling iris in video mode).
Nikon is fraudulent and cheating all of its long time loyal followers like us , I think I was very right to have decided to go dual mount in last Oct.
Canon seems to be much better in QC dept and much more honest with its loyal customers.
Nikon did never issue proper FW update to the camera with many many FW related design flaws, and now it suddenly replacing it with a minor updated body.
this is really you know rude to us who actually bought a D600 camera or current D800 owners having experienced the infamous left AF issue.
they should have admitted these 2 overrated toy cameras actually have many hardware and software related issues and should have announced recalls.
But Nikon has never admitted it and just replacing them , it is really stupid , in the long run they will lose a lot of loyal customers who bought high end FX Nikon bodies and would have spent a lot of money into Nikon F mount.
Seriously that company is choosing to please wrong kind of cheap headed customers who just buy a cheap body and kit lens and all done, stupid.
Nikon betrayed us and even shafted.
I am still keeping at least two Nikon bodies (D800E and D600 for now) but I am not sure I will keep them if they really announces the D610 and discontinues the D600 without recalling it(for the infamous oily dust issue) or announcing real solution to fix the FW design flaw (it does not allow controlling iris in video mode).
Nikon is fraudulent and cheating all of its long time loyal followers like us , I think I was very right to have decided to go dual mount in last Oct.
Canon seems to be much better in QC dept and much more honest with its loyal customers.
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Of course gear matters.... take a 800F5.6, a 600F4, a 500F4, 4002.8, and a 200-400F4.... use the boxes they come in, and you can make a life-raft....insanitybeard said:
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Will that support a man + camera gear? That looks like a white lens in the avatar. Are you jumping ship or walking the gang plank. If a big boat called the titanic offers to pick you up, you might want to hold your thumb out a little longer. Is this like a new tv show that grabs your interest by creating a mystery and is then cancelled before the mystery is resolved?Click said:...Just in case...
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So after jumping ship for the weekend and shoot nikon only with a friends equipment, this is what I have to say about nikon.
1. The DR is better, but not as much as I expected.
2. I couldn't stand the ergos, it drove me nuts with the ISO button not being as fast to change as on canon.
3. The AF with primes wasnt as good as my mk3s. Yes, the left AF point on the d800 was slooooow.
4. Flash exposure was very nice, but I missed my RT. :/
5. Overall, it wasnt too bad but I prefer my canon.
I couldn't help but LoL at some of the comments. CR has a sense of humor.
1. The DR is better, but not as much as I expected.
2. I couldn't stand the ergos, it drove me nuts with the ISO button not being as fast to change as on canon.
3. The AF with primes wasnt as good as my mk3s. Yes, the left AF point on the d800 was slooooow.
4. Flash exposure was very nice, but I missed my RT. :/
5. Overall, it wasnt too bad but I prefer my canon.
I couldn't help but LoL at some of the comments. CR has a sense of humor.
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RLPhoto said:
Hekhekhek. Kind of what I expect.
Anyway, should you really change ship, just message me so you can sell me your lens trio. I promise that I'll take care of them. 
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RLPhoto said:
So it is not so much that you jumped ship. Just that now we all know you go both ways. ;D
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if your workflow didn't change, you wouldn't notice much differenceRLPhoto said:
ergos are individual taste, being used to Canon after so many years I still have a slight pref for how they do some things but Nikon's control placement is more consistent from model to model than Canon's regular randomizing of button positions
ISO's actually much faster to adj on d800, if you'd have assigned it to a control wheel
depends on the lens, Nik's ultrasonic motors do seem to be slower
my d800s have no left AF weakness
agreed
good on you for at least giving it a try
If you do so again, you might get more out of the experience.
Maybe try it in more challenging conditions.
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To me this expression means: I sold all my vendor X cameras and lenses and bough the equivalent vendor Y cameras and lenses.
It seems that you had left your equipment intact while you... were transferred temporarily via a boat from one ship to other and then back to the original one. ;D
P.S Rumors that you harried back much earlier due to a possible 135mm 1.8L IS announcement are totally inaccurate... ;D ;D ;D
It seems that you had left your equipment intact while you... were transferred temporarily via a boat from one ship to other and then back to the original one. ;D
P.S Rumors that you harried back much earlier due to a possible 135mm 1.8L IS announcement are totally inaccurate... ;D ;D ;D
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Aglet said:
I'll see how the d900 vs 5D4 goes. This generation of systems still weighs heavily in favor for Canon in my uses. As for ship jumping, my buddy quite liked shooting with my canon equipment. He's thinking about jumping ship to canon.
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RLPhoto said:Aglet said:
I'll see how the d900 vs 5D4 goes. This generation of systems still weighs heavily in favor for Canon in my uses. As for ship jumping, my buddy quite liked shooting with my canon equipment. He's thinking about jumping ship to canon.
Nice comeback on your last statement there! lol! ;D
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So, those of you who have used both systems do you guys feel that Nikon cameras are designed and built keeping a smaller hand size as the target compared to comparable Canon cameras? I used the Nikon cameras of two of my friends (one D80 and the other was probably D90 or D7000) and found the hand grip feeling smaller/thinner than my 40D and 50D....... any opinion?
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Every time I played with Nikon D3000, D5000, D90 friends, seemed to me that did not fit well in the hand. Canon T2i seemed better ergonomics, although being small. For some mysterious reason, in my city, women prefer Nikon.RAKAMRAK said:
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RAKAMRAK said:
I've never picked up a Canon body that didn't feel OK to hold & use.
OTOH, I positively HATE the feel of Nikon's D7000 series and the D600 - I find them so unpleasant I skipped buying the economical D600 and grabbed another D800 instead. Those slightly smaller/thinner grips give my hand a cramp in very short time where I can carry a d800 or smaller D5100 around for hours w-o a strap quite easily, even with large glass attached.
D800 is a larger body, my hands are small to mid-sized and the D800 is a very comfortable camera for me to use.
Also, the D5000 series cameras are very comfortable for me despite the small Rebel-ish size. The proportioning and overall balance are more pleasant than the d7000/600 IMO. All highly subjective, of course.
D90 is not bad for me but don't like it as much as d800's fit.
I'm still waiting to see if there's a high end cropper coming (D400 ?) to replace the aged D300/s but concerned it might feel too much like the 7000 series. That will also be competing against a possible 7D Mk II for my uses.
The 7D was a really nice camera to use in all respects except, for me, it's IQ was inadequate for some of the shots I wanted it for. I'm hoping 7D2 will continue the excellence and provide improved noise levels; even the 70D would be adequate but I won't be needing it until next summer so can wait.
More on ergos, I often shoot with a Pentax K52s, great little camera, feels lovely in my hand.
K-30 has that annoyingly deeper, thinner grip, not too unlike D7x00. But not quite so bad that I didn't buy the K30... for $450 for a NIB camera with its capabilities I could put up with a bit of discomfort for the little time I'll be carrying it.
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