Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

PhotographyFirst said:
dilbert said:
This seems very confusing.

Is Canon effectively saying they don't know how to best meet the market requirements in this segment?

Is the LCD version going to be $100 more expensive than the non ... or?

Maybe 760 doesn't have touch screen?

What's Canon doing here?

Strange isn't it? Maybe the 760D will replace the price bracket of the 700D. The 750D might be put into a lower bracket where the XXXXD series was?

The 760D looks close to the size of the 70D, so maybe the 80D will move up market?

Wasn't Canon saying not too long ago they were going to reduce their number of offerings and focus on a select few segments?

could be the T7 and T7i in one shot.

we'll know more when we see the other names.
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

rrcphoto said:
PhotographyFirst said:
dilbert said:
This seems very confusing.

Is Canon effectively saying they don't know how to best meet the market requirements in this segment?

Is the LCD version going to be $100 more expensive than the non ... or?

Maybe 760 doesn't have touch screen?

What's Canon doing here?

Strange isn't it? Maybe the 760D will replace the price bracket of the 700D. The 750D might be put into a lower bracket where the XXXXD series was?

The 760D looks close to the size of the 70D, so maybe the 80D will move up market?

Wasn't Canon saying not too long ago they were going to reduce their number of offerings and focus on a select few segments?

could be the T7 and T7i in one shot.

we'll know more when we see the other names.

It's the only plausible explanation. It would put Canon value perception well over the Nikon offerings in the same price range. Rear dial and top LCD are huge benefits for a lot of photography. I love my T1i, but having to turn on the big rear LCD to change settings and check settings is annoying.
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

The 760D is not the new 80D...
There are buttons missing, like the AF button, and the button next to the trigger button. The Top screen is smaller than on the 70D, which is less convenient I suppose. So not much sense in it being the new 80D in my eyes.
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

Canon, for some years, have had 2 XXXD camera bodies in their current products portfolios - just looks like now they're both bodies that were released at the same time. It's been a while since the 700D dropped, I assume they're happy to let it go!

760D... I'm interested, if the video crop mode hasn't been retired across the range for the second time! (it's really not in the 7D II? lame..)
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

PhotographyFirst said:
ajfotofilmagem said:
It is intriguing two models with identical specifications, and differ only in size, buttons and LCD on top ... ???

It is quite strange... Maybe one of them is Full Frame?

edit: Never mind. Too wishful. :)


Too wishful for the Rebel line right now, yes, but give it another five years and it'll happen.
Given the way that Canon likes to recycle their hardware, and that the we're getting a higher end Rebel, this all fits nicely with my thought that the 80D is going to be a full frame camera (an even cheaper 6D).
The 70D will probably be phased out soon after the 80D launches (though they could coexist for a while), and then the 800D will basically be a Rebel version of the 70D.
A few more years after that and the next logical step will be a Full Frame Rebel.
I'm sure it would go nicely to launch alongside the Japanese Olympics.
 
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zim said:
so apart from ergonomics what's the big/main difference between these two?

In a day or two we'll know. Canon knows something after they had done their market research and decided to design and manufacture two Rebel bodies at the same time.

I estimate the 760D body will fetch $900-1000 US and the 750D about $700-800 US. They could keep the T5i at $500. 70D will probably hover at $1200 US.
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

dilbert said:
This seems very confusing.
Is Canon effectively saying they don't know how to best meet the market requirements in this segment?
Is the LCD version going to be $100 more expensive than the non ... or?
Maybe 760 doesn't have touch screen?
What's Canon doing here?

Nope.... On the contrary! ;-)

It will have one. According to digicame-info.com.

eos760d_f002.jpg


What I wonder is about the: Hybrid CMOS AF III. It doesn't seem to be Dual Pixel AF.
 
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bmwzimmer said:
Will EF-S lenses designed for 1.6x crop sensors work with 1.5x crop sensors? I would assume vingnetting would be a bit worse unless it's cropped in camera to 1.6?

Maybe, but a lot of 3rd party lenses are designed for 1.5x so at least they would work as designed.
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

dilbert said:
This seems very confusing.

Is Canon effectively saying they don't know how to best meet the market requirements in this segment?

Is the LCD version going to be $100 more expensive than the non ... or?

Maybe 760 doesn't have touch screen?

What's Canon doing here?
Yeah! This is also puzzling me.

I don't see enough differentiation inbetween those two to allow a bigger price gap than €/$100 MSRP.
With rebates it will be less than that and it should be more than that to address different market segments.
The video features might be the point but I don't see them differing enough.

Only reason to bring on this two versions of almost one camera might be more efficient production lines.

Let's see how the detailed specs and the MSRPs are. Maybe we can see clearer then.
 
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24MP, I hope this means new sensor technology with an implied improvement in dynamic range.

Are there any high-quality EF-S lenses coming to utilize the higher pixel count? Makes little sense to release 24MP APS-C without lenses that can harness the extra resolving power. Without the lenses then you might as well shoot with a lower-res camera.
 
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StudentOfLight said:
24MP, I hope this means new sensor technology with an implied improvement in dynamic range.

Are there any high-quality EF-S lenses coming to utilize the higher pixel count? Makes little sense to release 24MP APS-C without lenses that can harness the extra resolving power. Without the lenses then you might as well shoot with a lower-res camera.

Well, you can use EF lenses as well... EF lenses (L's) feature resolutions of ~1800/mm, which is 1.8 per micrometer. So you can use a resolution of a 3 to 4 micrometer in diameter pixel ???
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

Triggyman said:
zim said:
so apart from ergonomics what's the big/main difference between these two?

In a day or two we'll know. Canon knows something after they had done their market research and decided to design and manufacture two Rebel bodies at the same time.

I estimate the 760D body will fetch $900-1000 US and the 750D about $700-800 US. They could keep the T5i at $500. 70D will probably hover at $1200 US.


Well full specs are out
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d9a8632748851cd09d0c0a3f370662d9&topic=24932.msg492079;topicseen#new

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d9a8632748851cd09d0c0a3f370662d9&topic=24933.msg492102;topicseen#new

Sorry still not getting what the main differentiator :(
 
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For me, I fear the 760D to be significantly more expensive than the 750D... at least when looking at the speccs. Seems to me as if the 750D is just a lower 760D... :'(
 
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FWIW I did an overlay of the two bodies, using the hot shoe as a sizing guide, and they're almost exactly the same size. The 760D has a left strap mount on the side instead of the top, and you can see the control wheel a bit from the top but aside from that there's no difference. (volumetrically)
 
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StudentOfLight said:
24MP, I hope this means new sensor technology with an implied improvement in dynamic range.

Are there any high-quality EF-S lenses coming to utilize the higher pixel count? Makes little sense to release 24MP APS-C without lenses that can harness the extra resolving power. Without the lenses then you might as well shoot with a lower-res camera.

EF-S 10-22, EF-S 10-18, EF-S 24/2.8, EF-S 55-250 STM and most definitely the absolutely superb and absolutely dirt cheap EF-S 60 Macro will have no problem whatsoever to serve a 24 MP sensor ... to the fullest! 8)
 
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Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear

StudentOfLight said:
Are there any high-quality EF-S lenses coming to utilize the higher pixel count? Makes little sense to release 24MP APS-C without lenses that can harness the extra resolving power. Without the lenses then you might as well shoot with a lower-res camera.

It's not a problem. Canon usually puts strong AA filter in front of sensor. 24Mpix is for marketing purposes only ;)
 
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bmwzimmer said:
Will EF-S lenses designed for 1.6x crop sensors work with 1.5x crop sensors? I would assume vingnetting would be a bit worse unless it's cropped in camera to 1.6?

For what it's worth, I use my Canon 10-18mm on my Sony a6000 (1.5 crop) far more often than I do on my Canon SL1 - works perfectly, even at 10mm (leaving aside the slower AF - which, for some reason, is less slow than some other adapted Canon lenses). Vignetting seems about the same. (I've not tried any other EF-S lenses on it, so I can't say whether they would behave differently.)
 
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