Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

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#102
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SoullessPolack said:
LetTheRightLensIn said:
yeah I doubt a 1200mm, at least not unless it is some new type of lens, DO at the least

the 135mm I'd bet WILL get updated though
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So, what reasons do you have that you assumed the 135mm will get updated?
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I'd say the 135 is a staple lens, one aimed squarely (but not solely) on portraiture, thus a key lens appealing to a wide audience of professionals and advanced amateurs.

My shots on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/trondstromme/
 
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#103
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

sagittariansrock said:
Zv said:
dolina said:
MTF looks nice but when will they update these older L lenses?

1998 - EF 35mm f/1.4L USM
2004 - EF28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM
1996 - EF 135mm f/2L USM
1998 - EF100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM
1995 - EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM
1996 - EF180mm f/3.5L Macro USM
1997 - EF300mm f/4L IS USM
1993 - EF 400mm f/5.6L USM
1993 - EF 1200mm f/5.6L USM
1996 - EF200mm f/2.8L II USM
1999 - EF 70-200mm f/4L USM

The EF 16-35 f/4L IS supplants the 2003 - EF17-40mm f/4L USM.

Where is the EF 14-24mm f/2.8L USM that rivals Nikons or an L version of TS-E45mm f/2.8 & TS-E90mm f/2.8?
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In one way they already updated the 70-200s on this list when they added IS to them ;)

The 1200mm was a one off, highly specialized, rare and expensive beast, you can't really put that one on the list since no one is expecting it to be updated. (Are they??)

The 200mm f/2.8 is rarely talked about, I guess they could stick IS in there and improve the optics but then you might as well just buy the excellent 70-200LII.

I agree with the rest though. That updated 100-400 was promised to us "after the 200-400 starts shipping in decent numbers." So that was just BS? :o
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I think the 28-300L isn't going to be replaced.
Why do you think the 300 f4IS needs replacing?

I also don't see the 35L being replaced soon. Later it will have amazing IQ, nine curved blades, weather sealing, and cost north of $ 2k.
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I don't think the 300 f/4 needs replaced right now I was just eliminating the ones that probably won't ever be replaced. Maybe at some point in the future we'll see a refresh to the 35 1.4 too. I don't know much about the 28-300L but you're probably right about that one.

So that long list is really just down to the 100-400, 180 macro and 400 5.6 replacements that are overdue then.
 
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#104
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

This is good news and pricing ($1199 for L & $299 for EF-S version) is excellent ... I'm guessing the competitive pricing had a lot to do with the recent third party lenses that are being sold/announced at very affordable prices. Good times!
 
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#106
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candyman said:
I am very curious about the quality of the 16-35 f/4 IS.
Can't wait for the reviews...

EDIT: interesting to see the design matching the 24-70 II
Maybe the new Canon L line?
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With their lens casings, Canon has always developed a design language / look which generally lasts for a few years. This is more obvious with the black plastic USM lenses. If you look back at previous designs, it was quite easy to see the generation a lens belonged to by it's look. The most typical was the design of the rubber rings.

I think the newer blacked out AF window surround has been around for a while now, lens detail and font location has been around since the ef-s 15-85. The general look of the lens are the new look for mid sized L lenses although a lot of it's deign language can bee seen in the 100mm f2.8 L IS Macro.
 
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#107
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

squarebox said:
Wow... I really don't get Canon's pricing, especially at today's exchange rates.

The EF 16-35L F4 is $1550 USD here in Japan
and the EF-S is $460

America will remain the cheapest place to get lenses.
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Same for UK - pounds for dollars - with the UK price £1199 and £299, whilst the exchange rate is 1.6x
That isn't unusual with manufacturers coming up with all manner of excuses - some valid - as to why they cost more in the UK and EU than the US or Asia.

But then you compare the launch prices of the white SL1/100D also announced today for the US. $749 in the US, but only £499 in the UK.
 
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#108
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

lw said:
squarebox said:
Wow... I really don't get Canon's pricing, especially at today's exchange rates.

The EF 16-35L F4 is $1550 USD here in Japan
and the EF-S is $460

America will remain the cheapest place to get lenses.
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Same for UK - pounds for dollars - with the UK price £1199 and £299, whilst the exchange rate is 1.6x
That isn't unusual with manufacturers coming up with all manner of excuses - some valid - as to why they cost more in the UK and EU than the US or Asia.

But then you compare the launch prices of the white SL1/100D also announced today for the US. $749 in the US, but only £499 in the UK.
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In Sweden the new 16-35/4L IS is introduced at 10390 SEK, that is $1504.75...
 
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#111
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

squarebox said:
Wow... I really don't get Canon's pricing, especially at today's exchange rates.

The EF 16-35L F4 is $1550 USD here in Japan
and the EF-S is $460

America will remain the cheapest place to get lenses.
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Don't worry that price should come down after the initial pre-orders are fulfilled. The 16-35 is on amazon.jp for ¥149,688 right now with the 10-18 for ¥42,228.

Though I agree that it's total BS that it's frickin made here and it costs more than it does to buy it in the U.S!
 
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#113
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

Zv said:
squarebox said:
Wow... I really don't get Canon's pricing, especially at today's exchange rates.

The EF 16-35L F4 is $1550 USD here in Japan
and the EF-S is $460

America will remain the cheapest place to get lenses.
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Don't worry that price should come down after the initial pre-orders are fulfilled. The 16-35 is on amazon.jp for ¥149,688 right now with the 10-18 for ¥42,228.

Though I agree that it's total BS that it's frickin made here and it costs more than it does to buy it in the U.S!
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Think iPhones and China.
 
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#114
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

If you want to compare prices you need to value in customs duties and taxes.

I live in the Netherlands.
For non-EU imports we have to pay customs duties.
Cameras and lenses are 6.7%
On top of that there is the value-added tax (VAT or BTW in Dutch) which is 21%.

The USD – Euro exchange rate today is about 0.73 so $ 1,000 is € 730
€ 730 + 6.7% customs duties = € 779
€ 779 + 21% VAT = € 942

American prices are without tax, so if you want compare these with Dutch prices you need to multiply the USD price by 0.942 => € 1,199*0.942 = € 1,129 which is pretty close to the € 1,099 price tag.
The customs duties in my calculation are based on the retail price, so in reality they will be less because it will be based on what the retailer is paying and not the price you pay in the shop.

If people want to compare prices they need to figure out if they have to pay customs duties and taxes and how high they are for the country they live in.
 
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#115
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100 said:
If people want to compare prices they need to figure out if they have to pay customs duties and taxes and how high they are for the country they live in.
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Very true.

In the UK, they have set the launch price of the 16-35L at £1199 GBP.
At today's exchange rate that is $2026 USD.
Whereas the US price, plus import duty and VAT is £909 (at today's exchange rate)
So in the UK we are paying approx one third more for this lens. I call that a rip off.

Interestingly, the white SL1/100D was launched in the US on the same day.
In the UK they set the launch price at £499 GBP
At today's exchange rate that is $843 USD
Whereas in the US they set the launch price at $749 USD
By the time you add import duty (which is 0% on cameras) and VAT that comes to £532 GBP.
So in that case the UK is actually cheaper!
With
 
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#117
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

lw said:
In the UK, they have set the launch price of the 16-35L at £1199 GBP.
At today's exchange rate that is $2026 USD.
Whereas the US price, plus import duty and VAT is £909 (at today's exchange rate)
So in the UK we are paying approx one third more for this lens. I call that a rip off.
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It is a rip off if you have to pay that much more.
Does anyone know what causes these big price differences?
 
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#119
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chromophore said:
These new lenses will be overpriced (the L being at least $2100, I guarantee it), and will still under-perform even though it will be a little better in the corner sharpness over its predecessors.
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I think that pretty much sums up the majority of rumor discussions on this site.
 
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#120
Re: Images of the New EF 16-35 f/4L IS & EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM

with that tag price of 300 usd.. i'd rather spend a little more and get the tokina 11-16 ( $420)

yeah i know the 10-18 comes with IS.. but still, useless for a wide angle
 
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