Interesting... World Cup and no snapshots of rumored 7D2?
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Tugela said:
But why? Pro sports photographers aren't focal length limited generally so what do they have to gain by using a crop body? The only advantage I could think of would be a potentially higher frame rate as the mirror and shutter is much smaller but even then 12fps is crazy quick, even 10 is a lot
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Hannes said:
Ummmm....because a more modern camera may have improved ability set and track focus than a 4 year old camera?
You are forgetting the 1D cameras were not designed yesterday, they are old cameras with even older technology. Stuff improves.
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One of the possible new features would be tracking of a face or object... having a camera that could track focus on a soccer ball in play would be a fantastic feature to haveTugela said:
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Hannes said:
Pretty much everyone at all three each of the D1, D2, and D3 NCAA track meets had a 1Dx and 400 f/2.8L I or II IS combo, plus a 2nd 1Dx with a 70-200 f/2.8L II IS lens. This was really dramatic compared to last year, when there was an even mix of 1Dx and 1D4 cameras, and Nikon cameras and lenses. Majority this year was 1Dx and a supertele. This may be a classic case of where people figure out very quickly that DxOmark scores mean absolutely nothing, they are ignored, and people get the gear that works best, especially pros.
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Don Haines said:
So we make a camera that's really great at shooting the World Cup? You missed the point. Pros shoot both indoor and outdoor sports and no one's going with an APS-C sensor considering no pro in the world is focal length limited. At least, none that I know.
My point isn't that the 7D2 isn't great at action, but it's not going to be good at low-light action and so it's probably not surprising at all that no one saw any pros at the World Cup using one. I'm not surprised, that's all.
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How do you know the 7D2 isn't great at action? Nobody has seen it yet....bdunbar79 said:
There are a lot of sports where you can't get close to the action and you are focal length limited....
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bdunbar79 said:
What we are talking about however is pros at the world cup. Low light is not an issue, focal length is not an issue. The ability to get and keep focus is the single most critical in that scenario. If they are in a different scenario they might use a different camera that was more suitable.
Any pro that insists on using a particular piece of equipment outdoors for action photography simply because that is the piece of equipment they use in a studio should be looking for a new job IMO, because they are clearly incompetent.
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Tugela said:
If their Professional Assignment is to capture delightful images to be used by Canon to promote the 7D2 of the 22 men running up and down a field in colourful shirts, on Cup Final Day, I'm pretty sure they'll get in trouble for leaving their 7D2 at home
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Tugela said:
The pros will use what is best for sports action, and that is the 1D X. Offer me a 7D Mark II at an event like this and I will politely decline.
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Evidently, some of you guys are making assumptions about the purpose of the 7D2 being there... Considering Canon are going to have a frick-tonne of 7D2s to shift in a coupla' months time, don't you think there's a possibility that they're handing people the camera to take pictures WITH it? Or perhaps they want to TEST the camera under such conditions ooor have some project requiring higher res images that simple printed or web hosted media don't necessitate and can't be captured by the 1Dx, if this is a High MP Camera.
Testing cameras and generating promotional materials and a buzz for a new camera does not require the use of an old camera - maaaybe, just maybe, nobody's there to sell 7D2 captured shots via Getty
Testing cameras and generating promotional materials and a buzz for a new camera does not require the use of an old camera - maaaybe, just maybe, nobody's there to sell 7D2 captured shots via Getty
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Agency pros will use what they are paid to use by their employers. Canon have very close ties with Getty and AP, they will work in conjunction with both companies and the photographers will not have a choice of what they use as it isn't their gear, they use what they are given.
Stringers, freelances etc will normally have their own gear and I'd be surprised if Canon lent them anything for Beta testing for the Wold Cup.
Stringers, freelances etc will normally have their own gear and I'd be surprised if Canon lent them anything for Beta testing for the Wold Cup.
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I have never heard of an agency insisting a photographer use a test body, ever. Especially an inferior model to what they most likely have.
Those photographers will generally tend to use the best they can get their hands on. The 1D X.
Like I said earlier, I cover a lot of int. sporting events and will be at another soon. Canon will be there I already know that, but I won't be touching anything other than a 1D X for my main pictures. If Canon wants me to test it I will, I will take it to a pub cricket match or a Sunday football game, but it won't be used to take my "work" pictures.
Those photographers will generally tend to use the best they can get their hands on. The 1D X.
Like I said earlier, I cover a lot of int. sporting events and will be at another soon. Canon will be there I already know that, but I won't be touching anything other than a 1D X for my main pictures. If Canon wants me to test it I will, I will take it to a pub cricket match or a Sunday football game, but it won't be used to take my "work" pictures.
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expatinasia said:
If I am paid by Canon to take pictures with a 7D2, that is what I will do. If I am paid to use a GoPro or an iPhone, then that's what I will use.
The goal is not to take great pictures at the world cup, it is to take great pictures with a 7D2 at the world cup.
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