Is Canon EOS-1S the Name? [CR1]
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Do you know how long it took before it took to come down a bit? And do you remember what it came down to?CrimsonBlue said:
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Give it a rest. You're not the target market for this camera so Canon doesn't care what you think of the size or anything else about the body for that matter.Ricku said:
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new sensor tech introduced over the next two years.... that´s good.
im not buying a 5D MK3 or the 6D.
on low iso performance, what is most important for me, both offer me not enough improvement to pay the price.
as i have to much canon glass i won´t switch to nikon.
so i will stick to my canon bodys and do some fancy photo vacations with the money canon will not get from me.
let´s see what the future sensors will bring.
im not buying a 5D MK3 or the 6D.
on low iso performance, what is most important for me, both offer me not enough improvement to pay the price.
as i have to much canon glass i won´t switch to nikon.
so i will stick to my canon bodys and do some fancy photo vacations with the money canon will not get from me.
let´s see what the future sensors will bring.
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'IF' this camera is aimed at the medium format crowd, I'm not so sure thats a wise game to play.
1] It's a small market anyway
2] System switching, how many hasselblad owners are really going to part with their gear...
3] Sensor size. Ok so if this new sensor gives 'medium format quality', you still have to convince people that a smaller sensor is the way to go and it will be like trying to convince full frame users that apsc has the same Iq.
It'll probably sell well to studios that do indoor and outdoor shooting and require that versatility. but if I had that kinda money, I'd get a large format camera with a MF digital back. I know they're aqward and cumbersome but there's just something so rewarding about using one. You have to think about EVERTHING you do
1] It's a small market anyway
2] System switching, how many hasselblad owners are really going to part with their gear...
3] Sensor size. Ok so if this new sensor gives 'medium format quality', you still have to convince people that a smaller sensor is the way to go and it will be like trying to convince full frame users that apsc has the same Iq.
It'll probably sell well to studios that do indoor and outdoor shooting and require that versatility. but if I had that kinda money, I'd get a large format camera with a MF digital back. I know they're aqward and cumbersome but there's just something so rewarding about using one. You have to think about EVERTHING you do
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With Canon updating their technology so often, it's safe to say that it would be wise to rent these new bodies if one was a professional. That would be the only sensible way to stay on top of the competition, and not go broke trying to out-do the "Jones'" ...... when it comes to producing the cleanest/clearest photo. :
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Louis said:
IF this new sensor technology is true, and Canon needs to set up a new sensor plant just to cater for the new manufacturing process, then it does not surprise me that Canon implements this high pixel count camera in a $9000 body. Early adopters of this high pixel count camera are merely paying for the non-recurring engineering (NRE) costs. ;D
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If it is 9k then they are probably just protecting the 5D rather than competing with the D800
Imagine if they released a 50mp camera for less money than the 5D3....it would screw Canon's marketing for sure.
If they do release a high MP body then it has to be damn amazing because if it isn't I'd rather spend 9k on a D800E and a few lenses and have both brands onboard.
Imagine if they released a 50mp camera for less money than the 5D3....it would screw Canon's marketing for sure.
If they do release a high MP body then it has to be damn amazing because if it isn't I'd rather spend 9k on a D800E and a few lenses and have both brands onboard.
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KitsVancouver said:
It came down pretty fast actually, because of the 5D Mark II. I remember it retailing when the 5D2 was new for $6899, then $5999, then $4999, until the used prices went under $4k when there weren't any new ones anymore.
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If the new upcoming 46Mp beast is costing $9,000 ... Canon is sending a clear message to all its customers ... "If you want high MegaPix with medium format like quality and can't afford to pay .... Go .. Just go away .. And go with Nikon ... Canon does not want you as a customer ... Good Bye"!!!!
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neuroanatomist said:bdunbar79 said:
I don't ever remember seeing the 1DsIII retail new for $5K...
Grey market
Just kidding. I was likely unable to differentiate in my mind whether I was looking at new and used prices. I definitely remember the $6899 tag for a long time.
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CanonFanBoy said:
Canon has already clearly been sending that message. I've been trying to hold tight the past few months - waiting to see how Canon responded to the d800. But among friends and family, I've been starting to recommend Nikon bodies to new shooters. The rumored $9,000 1DS just cements my evolving/changing attitude toward Canon.
Canon used to lead the dSLR market with innovative products that met photographers' needs and demands. Now it just seems that they're throwing sh*t at the wall to see what sticks, with no clear path for progress/innovation. Just take a look at the lineup... 60D, 60Da, EOS-M, 6D, 7D, 5D2, 5D3, 1DX... and with the rumored 7D2 and 1DS in the pipeline, I have absolutely no f*cking idea what Canon is doing. Are NINE bodies really necessary to satisfy the high-end shooter market?
Nikon seems to have a clear path with their D4 and D800 offerings, and their pricing is certainly attractive. These last 6 months have been difficult for Canon fans, and as long as Canon continues to insult us with subpar offerings at insanely high prices, more and more shooters will be very seriously considering Nikon products.
I haven't abandoned Canon yet, but after my D800 arrives and I've had time to thoroughly evaluate the Nikon system, I may be making the permanent switch.
Sorry, Canon... but it's you, not me.
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justsomedude said:CanonFanBoy said:
Canon has already clearly been sending that message. I've been trying to hold tight the past few months - waiting to see how Canon responded to the d800. But among friends and family, I've been starting to recommend Nikon bodies to new shooters. The rumored $9,000 1DS just cements my evolving/changing attitude toward Canon.
Canon used to lead the dSLR market with innovative products that met photographers' needs and demands. Now it just seems that they're throwing sh*t at the wall to see what sticks, with no clear path for progress/innovation. Just take a look at the lineup... 60D, 60Da, EOS-M, 6D, 7D, 5D2, 5D3, 1DX... and with the rumored 7D2 and 1DS in the pipeline, I have absolutely no f*cking idea what Canon is doing. Are NINE bodies really necessary to satisfy the high-end shooter market?
Nikon seems to have a clear path with their D4 and D800 offerings, and their pricing is certainly attractive. These last 6 months have been difficult for Canon fans, and as long as Canon continues to insult us with subpar offerings at insanely high prices, more and more shooters will be very seriously considering Nikon products.
I haven't abandoned Canon yet, but after my D800 arrives and I've had time to thoroughly evaluate the Nikon system, I may be making the permanent switch.
Sorry, Canon... but it's you, not me.
+1 for this post I completely agree
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Three amazing camera bodies came out of Canon this past year and folks are acting like they have their heads in the sand. With all the problems Nikon has had with their flagship models, I for one am not surprised Canon hasn't had a nee jerk response to high MP frenzy. Big picture ladies. In the meantime I am going to enjoy shooting with my 5D3 for a long time to come.
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crasher8 said:
They're not talking of high MP only. They're also talking of high DR and affordability in the Nikon lineup. Canon is good enough on its own but unfortunately, it's not the only DSLR in this world and it will always invite comparison from other DSLRs thus Nikon. If price isn't justifiable against specs compared to Nikon for example, of course, it will be concluded that the Canon technology is overpriced against Nikon. For me, I just hope Canon can lower their price a little bit and increase their DR a little bit even if it's not as high as that of the Nikon. I mean, it's already 2012. If these specs of cameras were released 2 years ago, there will be no complaints.
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