Is Canon EOS SL1 / 100D still worth to buy? Or M3?

Feb 16, 2013
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Hi all,

Need the owner of SL1 / 100D to advise whether it's still worth to buy today.

The camera price is very cheap compare to 3 years ago.

Need a light weight body to move around, or M3 with EF adapter is better idea?

Thanks folks.
 
Yes, it is an absolute bargain to buy! It is smaller and especially lighter than almost anything comparable out there. Especially if you want an Optical view finder. And the kit lens 18-55 and the 55-250 zoom are both light and very sharp.
 
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dak723 said:
Yes, it is an absolute bargain to buy! It is smaller and especially lighter than almost anything comparable out there. Especially if you want an Optical view finder. And the kit lens 18-55 and the 55-250 zoom are both light and very sharp.

Trouble is that it has a dingy little pentamirror finder. But it is a bargain. However I went for the M3.

If the 100D had been more up-market with a decent mag alloy body, pentaprism finder and the superb sensor from the M3 I'd have almost certainly gone for that.

Having said that, if you want small and modular the M3 and it's system is actually very good. It can be pocketable or more expansive - it's up to the user.
 
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It depends on your use/needs, what you mean by "move around" and what EF lenses you plant to use with the adapter.

I've used both and found the smaller/lighter M/M3 combined with native EF-M lenses better suited my needs, on the trail or just knocking about when I want something less than my FF kit. I do some serious moving around on the trail. The M3, tilt screen, and EVF are more flexible than the SL1 for me. The SL1 optical viewfinder was quite a step back from my FF bodies.

I have the EF adapter but seldom use it other than with the 50 STM. I have mostly L glass for my 6D/1DX2 which I wouldn't bother mounting on an SL1 anymore than the Ms. I tried them both with several lenses just to be sure.

On the other hand, my cousin is quite happy with the SL1, 18-55, 55-250, and 10-18 as her only kit.
 
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I love my sl 1 also have an m1. I use the sl1 as a dslr and keep the m1 w 22mm as a point and shoot. Once the eos adapter is added to the m1 it is sized comparatively to the sl1.

If the sl1 were lost or stolen I'd probably wait for the hoped for update -24 MP sensor would be nice.

The refurb sl1 and 18-55 lens at 329$ plus the refurb 55-250 stm for 129$ makes a full dslr kit for a pretty penny pincher.
 
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I own both the SL1 (~6 months) and the M3 (~2 weeks), and will only be keeping one of them. I'm a little frustrated with the SL1's inability to AFMA, and have a couple of lenses that won't nail focus wide open on it (admittedly L glass that I wouldn't often use on the SL1).

I've only had a very superficial play with the M3 so far, and it seems ok, though I do wish it had spot AF selection like my Ricoh GR.

Now that the 80D is out, I'd like both bodies to be equipped with that sensor...perhaps an M4 is what I need.

d.
 
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My view is that the SL-1 is one of Canon's most under-rated releases in the past few years. To crunch an APS-C DSLR into such a tiny package is remarkable. As a travel camera with a suitable lens choice it's truly one of the best. And yes, the price right now is extremely appealing, way less than when I bought mine back when they first shipped.

-pw
 
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Thank you for the sharing.

The main purpose for me to have a light body is to carry around especially while I am having a business trip, while out for dining, hang around with my buddies & family.

I think I know where should I move already! Probably the SL1 is the best bang for my usage!

The most important thing is, both take photo!

Just curious, will there be any focusing issue if using EF & EF-S USM / non-USM lens on the EOS-M EF adapter?

From some blog, they explained STM lens is no issue but some issue on non-STM lens.

Thank you.
 
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I have the SL1, chosen over the M series for several reasons:

1. It's able to share lenses with my 6D when carrying both bodies - without any need to fumble with an adapter
2. It's light - I'm happy to carry it in my bag everyday without feeling the weight, either with the kit lens or a sensibly small prime.
3. It's viewfinder is built in and always there
4. It does not require live view the whole time, so it's the battery can be made to last longer.
5. It was the cheaper option at the time of purchase, preserving more money for more lenses and filters.
6. Although the touchscreen interface is good and useful, all controls can be button or dial operated when wearing gloves or if fingers are wet.

It has a few limitations:
1. It will never be as slim as an M, so even with a pancake lens will only slip into a large pocket
2. It has no wifi or GPS - I bought an EyeFi card upon purchase.

I'm happy with mine as a complement to its larger stablemate. Only if I really need high ISO or otherwise want full frame do I find the SL1 falling short of my needs. Maybe one day I will switch to all mirror less, but not yet

In summary, if you want to share lenses with a larger Canon, or typically use a viewfinder rather than the screen, then the SL1 is for you. If ultimate portability is the bigger priority, then the M may win.

Paul
 
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e17paul said:
I have the SL1, chosen over the M series for several reasons:

1. It's able to share lenses with my 6D when carrying both bodies - without any need to fumble with an adapter
2. It's light - I'm happy to carry it in my bag everyday without feeling the weight, either with the kit lens or a sensibly small prime.
3. It's viewfinder is built in and always there
4. It does not require live view the whole time, so it's the battery can be made to last longer.
5. It was the cheaper option at the time of purchase, preserving more money for more lenses and filters.
6. Although the touchscreen interface is good and useful, all controls can be button or dial operated when wearing gloves or if fingers are wet.

It has a few limitations:
1. It will never be as slim as an M, so even with a pancake lens will only slip into a large pocket
2. It has no wifi or GPS - I bought an EyeFi card upon purchase.

I'm happy with mine as a complement to its larger stablemate. Only if I really need high ISO or otherwise want full frame do I find the SL1 falling short of my needs. Maybe one day I will switch to all mirror less, but not yet

In summary, if you want to share lenses with a larger Canon, or typically use a viewfinder rather than the screen, then the SL1 is for you. If ultimate portability is the bigger priority, then the M may win.

Paul

Thanks Paul for the details comparison.
 
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thetechhimself said:
Yung

I own the M3 since it was released, and have looked at the SL1, hard, many times. It's easily the most underrated camera as it's the only APS-C to have a very small form factor.

Some bottom lines...

SL1

Cheap
Smaller than any other APS-C, except the M3
Excellent video quality, better than the M3
Although only 18MP, it's the most advanced 18MP variant Canon makes/made.
DIGIC5 chip is both fast, and generates slightly more pleasing colors than the M3's DIGIC6
It has Phase Detect Autofocus meaning you never have to worry about not getting the shot
It's not pocketable

M3
Smallest APS-C
Better photo quality at 24MP, and has better low light IE ISO performance than the SL1
With the 22mm, which is an excellent take it anywhere lens, is pocketable, that's saying a lot
It's not Phase detect autofocus, so you do have to worry about getting the shot
Forget using the adapter, if you have a lot of glass you want to adapt that isn't available in a native EF-M version, not worth it as M3 + Adapter = SL1, except not as good, and not smaller.
No viewfinder, well you can buy an optional one, but that's more $$ and makes it bigger
The big advantage of the M3 is size and weight, without compromising image quality, but it's autofocus is a work in progress

I'm not saying don't get the M3, the SL1 is a better camera, period. But, you can't pocket it. The M3 you can.

What I'm hearing from you is you probably should do an M3 with a 22mm. If you want to use a different focal length, then you should consider either the G7XII which can do 24-100 and is pocketable, but isn't nearly as clean of photos, or just going SL1 which isn't pocketable.

Thanks for the useful information, I think the SL1 is pretty good for my usage, as I don't really need a pocket size camera but just small enough and light to carry around, and most important is cheap (you know why).

Cheers
 
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thetechhimself said:
A second thought...

I ended up getting the M (and then M2 and M3) because my 5D didn't go with me everywhere, and the PowerShots I've gone through that did, didn't cut it for image quality.

The trouble with the SL1 is it may not go with you everywhere, it's just not small enough. But, it doesn't have trouble getting the picture.

The M3 goes everywhere, but sometimes has trouble getting the picture (autofocus).

Until the M4 comes out, you have to flip that coin of not quite small enough, but powerful (SL1), or small enough but not quite powerful enough (M3)

Thanks again for the sharing.

Just wonder is M3 af that bad? Thought it has got huge improvement from the predecessors.

I hope the SL1 focus much faster and more accurate than M3.
 
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Sayonara, Canon.

It's been a swell ride, but it's over now between us. You remember back when it started, with a 4MP G3. Traded in my Nikon F2 film camera plus 5 Nikkor lenses. Learned all about photography with that F2, in the 1970's. Neither one of us were rookies, back then.

Graduated to a couple of EOS Rebels, with the promise of world class optics and more pixels. Only these gradually got left behind because they were too big and too heavy. Left the Rebels for an M class. A nicely compact, very well made machine, with only a couple of problems. A little too small for my larger than average hands, and the lack of an optical viewfinder prevented me from composing the kind of landscapes that I loved.

Call me fickle if you will, but I thought that I found true love with the SL1. Just the right size, and an optical viewfinder! What more could one want?

A little less plasticky feel.
A sensor with a larger dynamic range (like one that your competitors already are using).
Your latest processor, maybe.
I don't even care about the crummy videos.

So I have been searching the Canon Rumors forum every day for months, maybe years, for the elusive SL2.

No luck.

Well Canon, this boy is tired of waiting. He is going back to his first love, Nikon. A D5500. Right size, a little less plastic, more dynamic range.

It's been real.
 
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thetechhimself said:
A second thought...

I ended up getting the M (and then M2 and M3) because my 5D didn't go with me everywhere, and the PowerShots I've gone through that did, didn't cut it for image quality.

The trouble with the SL1 is it may not go with you everywhere, it's just not small enough. But, it doesn't have trouble getting the picture.

The M3 goes everywhere, but sometimes has trouble getting the picture (autofocus).

Until the M4 comes out, you have to flip that coin of not quite small enough, but powerful (SL1), or small enough but not quite powerful enough (M3)

Well stated...

I carry the SL1 everyday (6D when I know that i will be shooting)... will gladly trade it ALL in for the M4 if it is right...

Come on M4!!!
 
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