Is Canon EOS SL1 / 100D still worth to buy? Or M3?

[d]

SL1 beats M3. Hopefully that changes with the M5. Its not about IQ.. they are all good to go in that regard.

Depends on your priorities. I sold my SL1 after buying an M3 - SL1 often failed to nail focus when I was using primes on it wide open or close to it, and of course you can't MFA on the SL1. The M3, while a bit slower perhaps, I found to be more accurate and consistent in its focussing. Definitely not amazing, but better enough than the SL1 for me to decide to only keep one.

I do miss my SL1 though - such a cute little DSLR, especially next to my 1DX.

 

[cellomaster27]

SL1 beats M3. Hopefully that changes with the M5. Its not about IQ.. they are all good to go in that regard.

Depends on your priorities. I sold my SL1 after buying an M3 - SL1 often failed to nail focus when I was using primes on it wide open or close to it, and of course you can't MFA on the SL1. The M3, while a bit slower perhaps, I found to be more accurate and consistent in its focussing. Definitely not amazing, but better enough than the SL1 for me to decide to only keep one.

I do miss my SL1 though - such a cute little DSLR, especially next to my 1DX.

Interesting! the SL1 does have focus issues with focusing.. especially with my 85mm at 1.8 and the 50mm 1.8 sometimes. But mainly in dark scenes. I didn't think the m3 was going to keep up with even the SL1.

I'd get an SL1. Even though I now have a 5D3 as my main, I find the SL1 to be worth keeping.. I don't know if I will but it's definitely a snappy camera. I do hope canon comes out with an SL2. That would be very interesting to see. With the recent sensor performances of the 80D (assuming they don't keep old tech) and adding more AF points, it could be a winner!

 

[Josh Denver]

For new users (still no lens investment), Nikon have been shrinking their D5000 series size until they now reached 100D size, almost. No practical difference. That camera is TINY. Just like an SL1 but with a tilt LCD, WIFI, 24MP, Way more DR, much better video (no aliasing), more AF points, etc. It IS newer and quite a lot more expensive than the SL1 though.

Wish Canon makes an SL2 to compete with the D5500. Just put a slim tilting hing, the 80D 24mp high DR sensor, Wifi like all new Canons, and with the sensor comes DPAF so better/easier video. Make it around 760D/D5500 price.

Problem with the Nikon is not in the body but the glass. I can't get a tiny 28mm IS, 40mm 2.8 pancake, immensely sharp 55-250mm STM, 10-18mm IS STM (the ONLY cheap UWA photography tool), and more.

Their zoom the 55-200mm is waay inferior in image quality and built, way. Don't have an ultra wide angle option. No stabilized primes and pancakes at both tiny size and price, etc

A D5500 + 18-55mm is an EXCELLENT travel package nonethelsss. Lovely SL1 size body and extremely nice general lens, tiny too. 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[YuengLinger]

I'm in love with the eos 80D. Small, light, quick, sharp.

 

[slclick]

If I had to do it all over again today? I'd go with the M5. I wanted to like the SL1 so badly but it was too small for my hands, too much noise and was a piss poor backup to the 5D3 overall.

 

[Josh Denver]

If I had to do it all over again today? I'd go with the M5. I wanted to like the SL1 so badly but it was too small for my hands, too much noise and was a piss poor backup to the 5D3 overall.

Noise as in image noise ot sound noise (mirror + shutter)

The SL1 images are fantastically clean. With similar sharpness to the 5DIII files in detail, dynamic range of pushing the photos, identical colours, just a very very lovely image. The 5DIII shows an image advantage only above high ISOs (and of course the FF DOF). Both are pretty lousy cameras in noise when pushed up underexposd images. So you must be a high ISO shooter I wonder? (Typically shoot at 1600-6400 ISO)

 

[Chris Jankowski]

The M3 goes everywhere, but sometimes has trouble getting the picture (autofocus).

Until the M4 comes out, you have to flip that coin of not quite small enough, but powerful (SL1), or small enough but not quite powerful enough (M3)

Well, if small, easily pocketable camera with very good autofocus is your goal then Sony RX100 M5 may be the answer. nearlt 400 PDAF cells on sensor, excellent Zeiss collapsible zoom, built-in EVF, wonderfull 1" 20 Mbit sernsor. It is fairly expensive though.

 

[Chris Jankowski]

If the 100D had been more up-market with a decent mag alloy body, pentaprism finder and the superb sensor from the M3 I'd have almost certainly gone for that.

Well, you've just specified 7D MKII. However, it weighs more than twice as much as SL1 and costs 4 times as much

 

[slclick]

If I had to do it all over again today? I'd go with the M5. I wanted to like the SL1 so badly but it was too small for my hands, too much noise and was a piss poor backup to the 5D3 overall.

Noise as in image noise ot sound noise (mirror + shutter)

The SL1 images are fantastically clean. With similar sharpness to the 5DIII files in detail, dynamic range of pushing the photos, identical colours, just a very very lovely image. The 5DIII shows an image advantage only above high ISOs (and of course the FF DOF). Both are pretty lousy cameras in noise when pushed up underexposd images. So you must be a high ISO shooter I wonder? (Typically shoot at 1600-6400 ISO)

Obviously this is a YMMV issue. I had image noise all over the place. I only used L glass and never above 6400. I'm not angry, just my experience.