Is the 5DIII the New 50D?

[scotthillphoto]

Well when I switched to Canon I bought a 50D, then bought a 7D, then bought a 5D3 and sold the 50D. I shot a TON of sports and the 50D could just not handle it at all I feel like there was a BIG improvement with the 50D vs the 7D, but it was what I used it for... So in the end it comes down to what you shoot and what you need. I shoot a wide variety of stuff and need a great AF system and the 7D is the best for the price and the 5D3 is the best behind the 1Dx.....

 

[RLPhoto]

I think the 5D3 is a cut-down 1Dx but retains too much of the price tag. It really should have been 2799$ at release.

 

[aznable]

the 5dmk3 costs a lot as the nikon D800...do you think $3000 (€2900) are a gift compared to $3500 (€3200).

both cameras are really expensive and both manufactors listened to their customers

 

[RLPhoto]

the 5dmk3 costs a lot as the nikon D800...do you think $3000 (€2900) are a gift compared to $3500 (€3200).

both cameras are really expensive and both manufactors listened to their customers

500$ could buy me more RAM to run lightroom 4, A copy of Lightroom 4 to go with my 5D3, and Windows 7 Pro to run my new workflow. 500$ is a big deal because new camera can change workflows and workflows cost more $$$.

 

[traveller]

I think the danger for Canon is that this (strongly) rumoured D600 could end up looking quite close in key specifications to the 5D MkIII, for substantially less money. This would move Canon's full frame line-up into the same position as their APS-C line-up, where lots of people are unclear as to which models in each manufacturers' range are meant to be equivalent (even without Sony's rumoured new FF SLTs muddying the waters). I've seen the D7000 compared to the 7D plenty of times and the D90 used to be regularly compared to the 50D.

 

[aznable]

the 5dmk3 costs a lot as the nikon D800...do you think $3000 (€2900) are a gift compared to $3500 (€3200).

both cameras are really expensive and both manufactors listened to their customers

500$ could buy be more RAM to run lightroom 4,A copy of Lightroom 4 to go with my 5D3, and Windows 7 Pro to run my new workflow. 500$ is a big deal because new camera can change workflows and workflows cost more $$$.

i am not saying there isnt a gap in price, i am saying they are both expensive…here in italy the gap is narrower, but i think those hardware are for pro photographers and maybe for some amateurs not mass market for sure
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with 300€ i can buy cigarettes for 40 days

 

[RLPhoto]

the 5dmk3 costs a lot as the nikon D800...do you think $3000 (€2900) are a gift compared to $3500 (€3200).

both cameras are really expensive and both manufactors listened to their customers

500$ could buy be more RAM to run lightroom 4,A copy of Lightroom 4 to go with my 5D3, and Windows 7 Pro to run my new workflow. 500$ is a big deal because new camera can change workflows and workflows cost more $$$.

i am not saying there isnt a gap in price, i am saying they are both expensive…here in italy the gap is narrower, but i think those hardware are for pro photographers and maybe for some amateurs not mass market for sure
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with 300€ i can buy cigarettes for 40 days

Even if we're pro, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be mindful of our expense's.

 

[GDub]

Bottom line is that each of us is on an individual journey. You buy some, and you pass on others. Like deciding when to upgrade your laptop or your software. Second bottom line: I love the 5Dmkiii... Third bottom line (triple bottom line is after all the current vogue for corporate reporting): It will be a long time before I change.

DITTO! Hem and haw, debate the merits, compare and contrast, pixel gaze, on and on... Bottom line is the 5DM3 is a GREAT camera. I LOVE my 5DM3!!

 

[wickidwombat]

I want to buy a 50D anyone got one they are selling?

 

[bdunbar79]

I want to buy a 50D anyone got one they are selling?

Oh shut up and just get a 7D

 

[wickidwombat]

I want to buy a 50D anyone got one they are selling?

Oh shut up and just get a 7D

people are still asking retarded prices for used 7D's :

I want it for some specific timelapse project stuff coming up I dont want to burn through the shutters of my good gear so I'm chasing a decent used 50D to just punch these out,

maybe a 40D but again I think the used market here are on crack with the prices they are chasing

maybe i should just get a new 550D i'm just worried about the buffer on a rebel not keeping up :-\

 

[jeffabbyben]

Wickedwombat-Actually I have an excellent condition low use 50D. I was going to trade it in to B&H but they only offered $300. I figured I would just keep it. I am now owner of a 5D mark ii and Mark iii (and an old rebel) so don't need the 50D. Just sayin if you are interested

 

[pdirestajr]

I think Canon knows exactly what they are doing in Regards to the 5D3's high price point.

At this price level, they aren't really competing with Nikon. The real competition between those brands is with point & shoots and entry level DSLRs.

What they are succeeding in doing is keeping the 5D2 relevant. A $3,000 5D3 would have seriously killed 5D2 sales at a < 1K difference. Wasn't the D700 discontinued?

When the 5D2 is discontinued and sold through, the 5D3 has the potential to come down a bit.

Then Canon can slot in another DSLR below the 5D3.

 

[RGomezPhotos]

I find the debate between 5DIII Vs D800 pretty funny. Mostly because they're direct competitors and yet they're not. I agree, the have the same position in Canons and nikons lineup, but they're not really the same cameras. Funny thing is that the D800 are the true successor of the 5DII whare the 5DIII are the true successor of the D700, that is very general, but I think for most part it's true.

If you really struggle to decide which camera you want (economic consideration aside), then I'd say you don't know your needs well enough. If you do a lot of landscape, portrait and studio work or you really need to print big (Or if you're just a MP whore, which I guess most of us are to some extent), then go with the D800. If you want a faster AF, burst rate etc. you go with the 5DIII.

I chose the 5DIII, my combo was a 5DII and 7D. I hated the 7D, but it's speed was very welcome when the main body was a 5DII. The 5DIII really does bring the best from those two cameras together and the choice was clear to me. Between the 5DII and 5DIII I got my first kid and the speed suddenly meant a lot more to me than when I bought my 5DII.

So basically I bought the camera I needed, others are better off with a D800, but I actively chose and decided that not only ws the 5DIII the better camera for me, but it was also worth the extra money.

I don't really care if it will go over in history or it will be forgotten in 5 years, the photos I will get with it is what matters to me. Whatever I will be able to sell it for when it needs an upgrade, will show when that time comes, but so far the 5D series have held their resale value pretty well.

This is the smartest thing I've heard in a while. Totally true... The 5DMIII is the real successor to the D700!

I have a 50D and love it. I know the 40D is a good camera, but the 50D really isn't enough for a true upgrade. I think that's where the 5DIII is at. If you have a 5DII, wait for the 5DIII to come down in price or wait for the next model.

My question is: now that the 5DMKII street price is about $1800, why come out with an Entry-Level FF? Give the II the III body shape and slightly improved internals at $2000, I buy that... If that happens before August. Great. Otherwise, I'll happily be clicking away on the III.

 

[wickidwombat]

I have a 50D and love it. I know the 40D is a good camera, but the 50D really isn't enough for a true upgrade. I think that's where the 5DIII is at. If you have a 5DII, wait for the 5DIII to come down in price or wait for the next model.

50% increase in MP wasnt enough of an upgrade?
AFMA plus the other stuff it got
many might say not getting video wasnt a bad thing either

 

[briansquibb]

The 50D was my first DSLR in late 2008, to which I added a used 40D as backup.

I then got a 5Dc as well for weddings

Then upgraded the 5Dc with a 5DII (2010) and the 50D with two 7DII(2010). Wasn't happy with the IQ of the 7D so replaced one with the 1D4 (2011)

I upgraded the 5DII with the 1DS3(2011)

I have found that good L lens meant really good photos. The 40D with the 400 f/2.8 was a real eye opener and started my move to top lens as a priority.

I have had the 24-105 since 2006 and the 135 since 2007

I gave my 40D to a friend earlier this year who is still using it to produce beatifull urban landscapes in Cornwall, UK

Having run the 40D and 50D alongside each other I found that there was little difference in prints to A4 and I would have found it difficult to upgrade to the 50D - I would have waited and then gone to the 7D

The 5Dc to the 5DII upgrade was a no brainer and exactly the right thing to do. However looking at the 5DIII specs there was little that grabbed me to say 'upgrade'. If I hadn't had a 7D/1D4 I might have upgraded for the extra fps - the AF wasn't an issue - I also had a lot of f/2.8 or faster lens which rather benefited the 5DII AF

I have to confess that if I see a good value 5DII with grips I might get it as a backup to the 1DS3

 

[RGomezPhotos]

I have a 50D and love it. I know the 40D is a good camera, but the 50D really isn't enough for a true upgrade. I think that's where the 5DIII is at. If you have a 5DII, wait for the 5DIII to come down in price or wait for the next model.

50% increase in MP wasnt enough of an upgrade?
AFMA plus the other stuff it got
many might say not getting video wasnt a bad thing either

Nope. I know many 40D owners and they love 'em. For the stuff they shot, it was great.

 

[traveller]

with 300€ i can buy cigarettes for 40 days

Why do you think I've given up smoking? It's a great incentive -just put the money you would have spent into your gear fund!

 

[aznable]

with 300€ i can buy cigarettes for 40 days

Why do you think I've given up smoking? It's a great incentive -just put the money you would have spent into your gear fund!

yes you are right, but i am too weak

 

[preppyak]

If the translucent mirror gives the A99 a frame rate approaching 10fps with 24mp at the rumored price of around $2500 - $2800, then the 5D Mark III becomes even harder to justify at $3499.

Well, the whole EVF v optical viewfinder is still kind of a big deal. I still haven't seen an EVF that makes the camera worth it...both between killing the battery life and making it hard to see in less than ideal conditions (things that matter to full frame users).