Just ordered 5d3 kit for $4200 delivered and nervous it will not be worth it

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I ordered this camera thinking of getting better iso performance and cleaner images but I am not sure now if the money is worth it since I own a Canon 60d and there seems to be a cheaper FF coming later this year. Finally there seems to be a lot of people stating that the 5d2 is just as good and there are not many improvements but I would never buy the 5d2 for just the metering and focus alone. One cannot live on center focus alone with two little ones running around. Someone please help comfort me or suggest I return it before I open it and get hooked in features that may not give me the financial results I am looking for. I know a pro will make it up but an enthusiast will only make it up by joy in his work. I enjoy photography and look forward to this but is it worth paying payments for the next 12 months for the iso and other gains from the 60d? I would also have to live with the kit lens for at least a year. The only good news is I got it for $4,199 out the door but its still expensive.
 
KKCFamilyman said:
I ordered this camera thinking of getting better iso performance and cleaner images but I am not sure now if the money is worth it since I own a Canon 60d and there seems to be a cheaper FF coming later this year. Finally there seems to be a lot of people stating that the 5d2 is just as good and there are not many improvements but I would never buy the 5d2 for just the metering and focus alone. One cannot live on center focus alone with two little ones running around. Someone please help comfort me or suggest I return it before I open it and get hooked in features that may not give me the financial results I am looking for. I know a pro will make it up but an enthusiast will only make it up by joy in his work. I enjoy photography and look forward to this but is it worth paying payments for the next 12 months for the iso and other gains from the 60d? I would also have to live with the kit lens for at least a year. The only good news is I got it for $4,199 out the door but its still expensive.
I think the IQ will leave the 60D for dead, on the weekend i'm planning to do more tests vs my 1Dmk3 and add in the 24-105 as well as the 50 f1.8 i might as well borrow my parents 600D and throw that into the fray too (since its the same sensor as the 60D and 7D)
 
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I have a 7D, and after getting a 5DII the latter gets used for 85-90% of my shots (many of them with my 2- and 4-year old daughters as subjects), and that's despite the weak AF of the 5DII. The only reason I'm not getting a 5DIII is that I'm getting a 1D X.

Personally, I think you made the right choice...
 
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Coming from a 60D, I think it will be "worthed" for sure. You will see a big improvement in every aspect. In any case, after shooting for a few days if you dont like it you can always return it! Make sure you download the upcoming LR4 update which will support the 5DmkIII RAW file. Also make sure you shoot RAW!

As for the cheaper FF coming later - IT IS ONLY A RUMORS! You cant based your purchase decision on rumor, at least not when they are that early. They can be 12-18 months off with this rumors. Are you willing to wait that long and take a chance it will not happen!

Start shooting with your 5DmkIII instead and enjoy photography. If you never had an L lens before, you will be pleased with the 24-105L...

Cheers!
 
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KKCFamilyman said:
I ordered this camera thinking of getting better iso performance and cleaner images but I am not sure now if the money is worth it since I own a Canon 60d and there seems to be a cheaper FF coming later this year. Finally there seems to be a lot of people stating that the 5d2 is just as good and there are not many improvements but I would never buy the 5d2 for just the metering and focus alone. One cannot live on center focus alone with two little ones running around. Someone please help comfort me or suggest I return it before I open it and get hooked in features that may not give me the financial results I am looking for. I know a pro will make it up but an enthusiast will only make it up by joy in his work. I enjoy photography and look forward to this but is it worth paying payments for the next 12 months for the iso and other gains from the 60d? I would also have to live with the kit lens for at least a year. The only good news is I got it for $4,199 out the door but its still expensive.
You have a 60d right, well depending on how much you use it you may not see the benefit of one oer the other but the 5dm3 is a world away from the 5dm1 i own and the 5dmII is only a sensor and a digic processor upgrade. This camera makes me dream of owning several 5dm3's, if i had the money i would lol. Seriously it is amazing. Ok i tested all but my fisheye lens on both the 5d mark 1 and the 5dmark 3 and while the 5d mark1 handles my 24-70 and the 70-200 II decently with focus only the 5dm3 makes my 50 F1.2 mind blowingly accurate at f1.2. It must be the refinement of the 5dm3 that just takes the most difficult and most powerful lenses and tames them to be the most rewarding lenses.
In a word, awesome! Feel better? :D I do!
 
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Bosman said:
KKCFamilyman said:
I ordered this camera thinking of getting better iso performance and cleaner images but I am not sure now if the money is worth it since I own a Canon 60d and there seems to be a cheaper FF coming later this year. Finally there seems to be a lot of people stating that the 5d2 is just as good and there are not many improvements but I would never buy the 5d2 for just the metering and focus alone. One cannot live on center focus alone with two little ones running around. Someone please help comfort me or suggest I return it before I open it and get hooked in features that may not give me the financial results I am looking for. I know a pro will make it up but an enthusiast will only make it up by joy in his work. I enjoy photography and look forward to this but is it worth paying payments for the next 12 months for the iso and other gains from the 60d? I would also have to live with the kit lens for at least a year. The only good news is I got it for $4,199 out the door but its still expensive.
You have a 60d right, well depending on how much you use it you may not see the benefit of one oer the other but the 5dm3 is a world away from the 5dm1 i own and the 5dmII is only a sensor and a digic processor upgrade. This camera makes me dream of owning several 5dm3's, if i had the money i would lol. Seriously it is amazing. Ok i tested all but my fisheye lens on both the 5d mark 1 and the 5dmark 3 and while the 5d mark1 handles my 24-70 and the 70-200 II decently with focus only the 5dm3 makes my 50 F1.2 mind blowingly accurate at f1.2. It must be the refinement of the 5dm3 that just takes the most difficult and most powerful lenses and tames them to be the most rewarding lenses.
In a word, awesome! Feel better? :D I do!
bosman any chance of posting some raws with the 1.2?
also are you using any focus point or only the center?
you did AFMA yours strait away didnt you? or was it nailing it strait out of the box?
 
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KKCFamilyman said:
I ordered this camera thinking of getting better iso performance and cleaner images but I am not sure now if the money is worth it since I own a Canon 60d and there seems to be a cheaper FF coming later this year.

Maybe a cheaper FF will show up, and maybe it won't. There's also "opportunity cost" to consider.

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Finally there seems to be a lot of people stating that the 5d2 is just as good and there are not many improvements but I would never buy the 5d2 for just the metering and focus alone. One cannot live on center focus alone with two little ones running around.

The people stating that the 5d2 is just as good are dead wrong. The 5d2 isn't even playing the same game as the 5d3, let alone in the same league. I'm shooting the Mk III at ISO 102400 and loving the images. At sane ISO's, like 12800, the image quality is very, very high.

KKCFamilyman said:
Someone please help comfort me or suggest I return it before I open it and get hooked in features that may not give me the financial results I am looking for. I know a pro will make it up but an enthusiast will only make it up by joy in his work.

Only you can decide if it's worth it, but one thing to keep in mind is that the AF will improve your hit rate by a significant amount. Did you say running children? You'll like this AF unit.

KKCFamilyman said:
I enjoy photography and look forward to this but is it worth paying payments for the next 12 months for the iso and other gains from the 60d? I would also have to live with the kit lens for at least a year. The only good news is I got it for $4,199 out the door but its still expensive.

It's much, much better than the 60D, and the "kit lens" is a professional grade lens that you can shoot wide open and get extremely high quality images from.
 
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justsomedude said:
The 5D3 holds up fine against the D800 and clearly beats the 5D2. What I find interesting is the chroma noise in the D800 starting at 6400 - all those magenta splotches (blech!) where the 5D3 is still true black.

Trust me... it's worth it.

He didn't mention the D800 once, do we have to turn every thread into a 5DIII vs D800 battle?

Also no one has mentioned the fact that he is financing this camera and has to make payments on it for the next year. If this was an impulse buy and you really don't need it, you may want to go for a 5DII or save up for it, why pay interest?

I'm worried about the payments for you, not your level of satisfaction with the 5DIII. Don't listen to the haters, the 5DIII is awesome and I am very happy with the improvements and I've been shooting with the 5DII for several years. T2i to 5DII was a massive jump, so 60D to 5DIII will be equally huge. It's an awesome camera and I guarantee you that you will be happy with it. The people that are hating on it had unreasonable expectations, they've had years to speculate what it would be like and people get their minds set on the idea of what it could be like. They expected the same level of "wow" that the 5DII created, but that's just not possible at this time, shallow DOF on a camera that cheap was unheard of in 2008.

I would not rely on the cheaper full frame later in the year at all, that was CR1 which means the guy could have just made it up. After the flood of traffic from the 5DIII I'm sure he's desperate to keep traffic stats up, so he has to throw something out there. I mean we've gotten the 1DX, 5DIII, supposedly the cinema dslr and t4i, how many bodies can they release in a year? I'd take it with a grain of salt, now just wait until your 5D shows up and go enjoy it, you'll love it.
 
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wickidwombat said:
Bosman said:
KKCFamilyman said:
I ordered this camera thinking of getting better iso performance and cleaner images but I am not sure now if the money is worth it since I own a Canon 60d and there seems to be a cheaper FF coming later this year. Finally there seems to be a lot of people stating that the 5d2 is just as good and there are not many improvements but I would never buy the 5d2 for just the metering and focus alone. One cannot live on center focus alone with two little ones running around. Someone please help comfort me or suggest I return it before I open it and get hooked in features that may not give me the financial results I am looking for. I know a pro will make it up but an enthusiast will only make it up by joy in his work. I enjoy photography and look forward to this but is it worth paying payments for the next 12 months for the iso and other gains from the 60d? I would also have to live with the kit lens for at least a year. The only good news is I got it for $4,199 out the door but its still expensive.
You have a 60d right, well depending on how much you use it you may not see the benefit of one oer the other but the 5dm3 is a world away from the 5dm1 i own and the 5dmII is only a sensor and a digic processor upgrade. This camera makes me dream of owning several 5dm3's, if i had the money i would lol. Seriously it is amazing. Ok i tested all but my fisheye lens on both the 5d mark 1 and the 5dmark 3 and while the 5d mark1 handles my 24-70 and the 70-200 II decently with focus only the 5dm3 makes my 50 F1.2 mind blowingly accurate at f1.2. It must be the refinement of the 5dm3 that just takes the most difficult and most powerful lenses and tames them to be the most rewarding lenses.
In a word, awesome! Feel better? :D I do!
bosman any chance of posting some raws with the 1.2?
also are you using any focus point or only the center?
you did AFMA yours strait away didnt you? or was it nailing it strait out of the box?
Wicked, I don't have anything special to show so i didn't post but i use spot af on the 5dm3 and even regular one point but spot af rocked it. I focussed on a screw on a light switch, pretty small object with a 50mm. I used a focus point on the outer region (not center point) but have my focus system set up to only use cross point focus so yea. Anyway i tested it at f1.2 and it was dead on, i tested a letter on my computer keyboard and dead on, we are talking from 3 ft away at 50mm. Then i take out the 5d mark 1 which has the exact same focus system as the 5dm2 using the center point only and it cant get it right, there is no micro adjust in the camera on the 5dm2 so i gave up. I tried the 70-200 II and the 24-70 on the 5dmII and it worked but for some reason the 5dm3 made all lenses dead on. I think the level of say a 50F1.2 and an 85 F1.2 are so complex that this focus system may be the first to really take advantage of the lens.
 
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Axilrod said:
Also no one has mentioned the fact that he is financing this camera and has to make payments on it for the next year. If this was an impulse buy and you really don't need it, you may want to go for a 5DII or save up for it, why pay interest?

I'm worried about the payments for you, not your level of satisfaction with the 5DIII.

+1. It also depends on how much focal length range the OP is losing by going FF. The OP mentioned that he'd be stuck with the kit lens for a year. Does this mean that the kit lens will be the only lens he'll be able to use with the 5DIII? If so, then it might make sense to get FF lens equivalents for the range he needs first and then upgrade the body later. The smaller expenditure for a lens or two would also give him more peace of mind. Financial stability should not be degraded for hobbies.
 
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Axilrod said:
justsomedude said:
The 5D3 holds up fine against the D800 and clearly beats the 5D2. What I find interesting is the chroma noise in the D800 starting at 6400 - all those magenta splotches (blech!) where the 5D3 is still true black.

Trust me... it's worth it.

He didn't mention the D800 once, do we have to turn every thread into a 5DIII vs D800 battle?

Also no one has mentioned the fact that he is financing this camera and has to make payments on it for the next year. If this was an impulse buy and you really don't need it, you may want to go for a 5DII or save up for it, why pay interest?

I'm worried about the payments for you, not your level of satisfaction with the 5DIII. Don't listen to the haters, the 5DIII is awesome and I am very happy with the improvements and I've been shooting with the 5DII for several years. T2i to 5DII was a massive jump, so 60D to 5DIII will be equally huge. It's an awesome camera and I guarantee you that you will be happy with it. The people that are hating on it had unreasonable expectations, they've had years to speculate what it would be like and people get their minds set on the idea of what it could be like. They expected the same level of "wow" that the 5DII created, but that's just not possible at this time, shallow DOF on a camera that cheap was unheard of in 2008.

I would not rely on the cheaper full frame later in the year at all, that was CR1 which means the guy could have just made it up. After the flood of traffic from the 5DIII I'm sure he's desperate to keep traffic stats up, so he has to throw something out there. I mean we've gotten the 1DX, 5DIII, supposedly the cinema dslr and t4i, how many bodies can they release in a year? I'd take it with a grain of salt, now just wait until your 5D shows up and go enjoy it, you'll love it.

Thanks but i would be making small monthly payments interest free. If i get lens upgrades then i will not have the iso performance for 12-18 months anD thats several vacattions, holidays and great life moments missed.

As far as focal length i think i will get me a 50mm 1.4 and the 70-300mm usm by year end if not i can rent what i need at those moments. I currently live with my 17-55 2.8 now.

Thanks for the advice but i like so many features but unsure if they are worth the money. Like the image comparision will help grab moments faster for me and setting the min shutter to 1/125 vs 1/60 in av will be very welcomed to reduce motion blur. Well i can go on and on but again just nervous if its right now for the coin.
 
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