Kenrockwell comments on Canon 6d

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Marsu42 said:
verysimplejason said:
6D isn't that cheap and it's decent. 5D3 or 1DX is better but it doesn't mean that 6D isn't decent. If professionals can produce good pictures with a 10D, 20D, 5D, 5D2, (even point and shoots) etc... there is no reason you can't treat 6D as a decent tool.

+1 ... when often reading CR it seems like you need a 5d3+24-70ii to take a good shot of your doorknob, but of course *ALL* Rebel+ gear is decent, even older cameras, esp. if paired with a non-kit lens - it's all €1000+ gear! The only variables are dedicated pro requirements (on site backup, customizations, sealing, reliability esp. of af) or the need for very large prints requiring 100% crop sharpness.

Hobby Shooter said:
Rockwell is what he is, I think he does a great job. AND I do like his writing.

Me too, that's why he's so successful (and because of his growing family :)) ... at least he's got the courage not to disguise his opinion as "facts", for example when he's saying he likes the 60d/6d-style multicontroller over the joystick or if he states what features are useless to him.

The only thing I didn't expect when I first read his reviews is that he sometimes simply gets real tech facts mixed up due to mediocre research, he doesn't seem to like reading manuals.

+ 100 and to Sanj's above post and I loved the bit of " 5d3+24-70ii to take a good shot of your doorknob" ;D
 
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sanj said:
Magnardo said:
Ken Rockwell always exaggerates one way or the other.
His advice and reviews are unreliable and he often contradicts himself.

He knows near nothing about Canon lenses,.....and often reviews lenses based on reading specs alone.
Read his review of 85 1.2,...one of the best lenses ever made by anyone. It is funny in its ignorance.
The review of 100 2.8 is Macro is just as clueless.
He just recently reviewed the 35 1.4,...... which is and has been and should have been a must,.... for any wanna be reviewer of photographic equipment.
For Canon reviews I trust The Digital Picture with no problem, any day, ahead of Rockwell.

For example to say repeatedly that the best thing is to buy a camera when they are first announced,.... is nothing else but stupid advice.
Whenever I did that, I had nothing but problems with the camera,.....and then the price drops in a few months by 30% and that makes you fell like a loser.
He keeps crying that he does not get paid by camera manufacturers but it makes you wonder when he gives advice like that,.... that plays into selling tactics.
I never met a crooked person that ever claimed they were crooked,.....just the opposite,....they were always screaming loud and clear they were innocent and honest. Not saying this is necessarily the case with him but it would not be surprising in an age where everyone gets their own,.... that Rockwell's integrity is not what he advertises.
For a guy begging for donations,...He seems to have a Mercedes and a Porsche Cayenne ,....and recently he just bought (according to him),... D800e, D600, Canon 5DMArk III, Canon 6D, Canon 35 1.4...Why would anyone want to own all these at the same time?!
His claim that he always goes the cheapest rout is hilarious.

Lastly,... his abundant pictures of his family are awful, weak pictures, that display no creativity whatsoever,...plain and filled with expected angles of view, where everything looks flat and uninteresting.

He must be a guru for people that need a guru,.... because they cannot think for themselves,.... and need someone to tell them this and that,.... and don't mind being abused or like to be called idiots.
No wonder people with rebels and g15s love him.

His website has some interesting advice but it is not ,by any means,.....the ultimate authority ,.... when I want objectivity and unbiased advice.

Most of what you say is crap to me.
1. You have no way of knowing how he reviews his lenses.
2. You clearly missed his point of buying camera when they are announced. Read carefully: He says if you want to own a camera, if you want a camera as soon as it comes out, it is best to pre-order it so you can have it early. Something wrong with that??
3. You have no right to judge anyone's integrity without proof. Damn!
4. Seems to have expensive car and gear...??? He clearly states he buys used cars. He DOES educate and help lot of general camera users and DESERVES to earn his money. He says 'If you feel that you have been helped, contribute $5.' To me that is fine...
5. He reviews gear. If he can buy it what is your problemmmm???? He may be reselling etc. But what he buys is not of your business...
6. You have a problem with Guru? Then do not go to any expert's website including this. Resolve all your questions yourself..
7. He is for the general public out there who need his help. Am assuming you are a pro. He is not for you.
8. I agree about your thought on his family photos. However, the people who read him want to perhaps take regular family/vacation photos... He is advising them...
9. Ultimate authority?? Did he claim he is? He is giving his opinion.
Sorry about the rant. Apologies.

Are you testing my Rockwell knowledge?

He said to buy cameras right away because engineers are present at first ,....and that makes for better quality control.
False,....a lot of new cameras have problems,....some of them hard to fix. I experienced that.

Most of his recent lens reviews have identical copy/pasted fragments from other lenses he reviewed in the past. Same goes for cameras.
When a lens gets announced and nobody has it,...right away he posts a review with his opinions about it and specs.
He was raving about the D800 in initial reviews,...changed his mind when he got the camera and modified review.
I think that a lot of his reviews are based on very superficial usage of the equipment in question.
Something like,...."Let me borrow it for a few minutes,...so I can show you that camera is not important and neither are the lenses."
After I read his reviews of 85 f1.2 and 100 2.8 macro L is,... I am very confident that he never used those lenses,...just copy/pasted stuff from cheaper 100 f 2.8 non is,.... and the 85 1.8 and that made some assumptions to complete the review.

The things I hate most are Hypocrisy,...Intentional Misleading Biased Fraud,...Unjustified Arrogance,....and Injustice,lack of correctness.
Rockwell is guilty of all of these.
That's why it bugs me when people kiss his footprints.

I have no problem with any people having backed up their arrogance with something substantial.
Richard Avedon, Cristiano Ronaldo, Jack Nicholson etc.

Rockwell,.....Keeps advertising BH and Adorama when the best deals can be found at Amazon,...and their customer service is best.
BH has a limit of 200 clicks if you decide to return camera,...Amazon no limit.
Amzon might be trying to drive those two out of business,....

You want really good advice?

A trick I've learned,...add things to Amazon cart (make sure they are sold by Amazon) and check cart daily,...they will notify you of any price changes unlike BH and Adorama which only keep the original cart price. Sometimes Amazon has great one day sales. This is the only way to find out.

If you add lenses to cart and wait,.... they will offer them to you at an extra 5% under YOUR NAME DEALS,.....every 24 h they offer you something based on your searches,previous buys and items in cart.
Make sure you delete the cart item and re add it from that link, when checking out, otherwise they will have the original price.


If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
I will prove to you that no subject is less interesting then another by such a large margin to not be worth photographing.

When anybody posts something pertaining to their private life on a public viewing site,it becomes less personal immediately and anybody can decide to comment on it as they wish.
Try and buy a Porsche Cayenne cheap and let me know how you did it.
You will be my guru then.

That begging for money at the end of each article,....is pathetic and unique to him,....you must need "big american strong hands" to write that.
 
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Magnardo said:
I have no problem with any people having backed up their arrogance with something substantial.
Richard Avedon, Cristiano Ronaldo, Jack Nicholson etc.
If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
Really? that seems incredibly hard to believe, you've been ranting and bad mouthing KR for so long but so far you have not "backed up" your rants "with something substantial" ... not even a single worthwhile photo.
Magnardo said:
If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
Now you want a contest? and you want others to post their photos? but you keep running away from posting even a single photo!. Since you are new to canonrumors, you may not know but FYI most of us have already posted our photos on Canon rumors and it was not done to belittle others but to share our work with others and get constructive criticism.
 
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sanj said:
Hobby Shooter said:
paul13walnut5 said:
Magnardo said:
No wonder people with rebels and g15s love him.

What does that even mean? Plenty of fools with the semi-pro cameras like the 5D3.
More cash and even a better camera doesn't make you a better photographer, or even less gullible or easily influenced.

Lots of folk doing very accomplished work on the cheaper cameras.

I don't rate Ken's reviews at all, and the points you make are mostly fair, but to sleight folk because they aren't part of the 5D3 club reveals it's own, worse kind of ignorance.
Well said as usual from you Paul.

We have lots of cameras in the house, my daughters are playing around both shooting video and pictures and then my own futile attempts to take good pictures of course. Some people on this forum gets kind of snobbish sometimes. My best picture ever I shot with my old 60D, without looking, I aimed it at a police officer shaking down a guy for money. Technically not a very good picture, but I was there in the moment and saw it go down as I walked past. I shot it backwards under my own armpit and the strap is disturbing the image That is also photography, not only perfect colourful landscapes with a lot of dynamic range.

Rockwell is what he is, I think he does a great job. AND I do like his writing.

I am with you. The photo you describe, as I imagine it, has the potential of being an unusual, interesting photo.
Thanks. I'll send you the link to it. Just remember Im an amateur.
 
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Marsu42 said:
verysimplejason said:
6D isn't that cheap and it's decent. 5D3 or 1DX is better but it doesn't mean that 6D isn't decent. If professionals can produce good pictures with a 10D, 20D, 5D, 5D2, (even point and shoots) etc... there is no reason you can't treat 6D as a decent tool.

+1 ... when often reading CR it seems like you need a 5d3+24-70ii to take a good shot of your doorknob, but of course *ALL* Rebel+ gear is decent, even older cameras, esp. if paired with a non-kit lens - it's all €1000+ gear! The only variables are dedicated pro requirements (on site backup, customizations, sealing, reliability esp. of af) or the need for very large prints requiring 100% crop sharpness.

Hobby Shooter said:
Rockwell is what he is, I think he does a great job. AND I do like his writing.

Me too, that's why he's so successful (and because of his growing family :)) ... at least he's got the courage not to disguise his opinion as "facts", for example when he's saying he likes the 60d/6d-style multicontroller over the joystick or if he states what features are useless to him.

The only thing I didn't expect when I first read his reviews is that he sometimes simply gets real tech facts mixed up due to mediocre research, he doesn't seem to like reading manuals.
Agree. ;D
 
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Rienzphotoz said:
Magnardo said:
I have no problem with any people having backed up their arrogance with something substantial.
Richard Avedon, Cristiano Ronaldo, Jack Nicholson etc.
If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
Really? that seems incredibly hard to believe, you've been ranting and bad mouthing KR for so long but so far you have not "backed up" your rants "with something substantial" ... not even a single worthwhile photo.
Magnardo said:
If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
Now you want a contest? and you want others to post their photos? but you keep running away from posting even a single photo!. Since you are new to canonrumors, you may not know but FYI most of us have already posted our photos on Canon rumors and it was not done to belittle others but to share our work with others and get constructive criticism.


Why do you feel like a mosquito?

All your post are exclusively direct personal attacks toward me,..... but their bites is less then negligible.

Why do you feel like a mosquito?


It must be the noise,...Zum! Zum!



You keep saying you want to see my pictures?!

You will get to see them in the manner I decide to show them,....not by playing weak mind games.
 
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You're not a troll. There's some else with you magnardo. Something that wants me to have you on a safe distance from my family.

I don't like door knobs. But please go ahead and search our posted pics like Rienz says. Give some constructive criticism. All of us are sure to be happy to get your view. Stay professional though.

I don't compare myself with others and I don't take pictures to impress anyone. I do it for myself. It makes me happy and that's enough. Learn from that my young friend.
 
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Magnardo said:
Rienzphotoz said:
Magnardo said:
I have no problem with any people having backed up their arrogance with something substantial.
Richard Avedon, Cristiano Ronaldo, Jack Nicholson etc.
If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
Really? that seems incredibly hard to believe, you've been ranting and bad mouthing KR for so long but so far you have not "backed up" your rants "with something substantial" ... not even a single worthwhile photo.
Magnardo said:
If you guys want a contest,....we can do this,....The Best Pictures of a Door Knob.
If agreed,.....Everyone post your best picture of a door knob.
Now you want a contest? and you want others to post their photos? but you keep running away from posting even a single photo!. Since you are new to canonrumors, you may not know but FYI most of us have already posted our photos on Canon rumors and it was not done to belittle others but to share our work with others and get constructive criticism.


Why do you feel like a mosquito?

All your post are exclusively direct personal attacks toward me,..... but their bites is less then negligible.

Why do you feel like a mosquito?


It must be the noise,...Zum! Zum!



You keep saying you want to see my pictures?!

You will get to see them in the manner I decide to show them,....not by playing weak mind games.
By now everyone knows what kind of a person you are and I think you have no worthwhile photo to post here that can "back up" your tall claims & rants, so I'm outta here. Good luck with your door knobs ;D
 
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You all bite from different angles like a pack of wolves and wonder what's wrong with me,....like that woman at Carnegie.

Only concentrated on self.
That's how Bush Junior became president. Twice.
It seems impossible in a rational way but there are many people drunk at sounds of their own voices that lock themselves in a microcosmos of their own thoughts and anything contrary to what they want to hear just hits a mental block and falls to the ground.

Tell me one good piece of anything that has been written here by you guys except constant attacks.


You should keep anyone at a safe distance from your family.
It is a mad world.


Free gift for you haters,....

Go to Phlearn.com,...great elegant site with lots of teaching and free advice,.....and compare that with Rockwell.

Learn class. Nobody begs for money.
 
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So much talk of pics of a doorknob and still no pics ... So I thought I'd post one of mine. This doorknob is important to me bcause it belongs to the one person whom I was mortally afraid of when I was young ... My headmaster at school before whom I used to be hauled up for having broken some rule. I used to stare at the doorknob whole waiting outside his room till that dreaded voice said "come in"... I met him after considerable time this past November and while taking his leave, I clicked this on my way out much to his surprise ...

Like Hobby Shooter, I too am a hobbyist ... But for our breed, every picture has a story ...
 

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Mad, bad and dangerous to know.

Whatever the online equivalent of crossing the road and getting your kids to look away is, do that.

I wouldn't bother attempting to involve the moderators, that just gives these creeps some sense of vindication, martyrdom, or even just the attention they crave.
 
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Some meandering thoughts of an old man.... ;)

1) equipment: When I started dating my future wife over 40 years ago, neither of us owned a camera. All I could do was take a couple of those tiny photo booth shots (4 for a dollar) like in the French movie Amelie. Those are still my favorite photos of her (I have one framed on my wall). I only wish now that I had taken a few more back then.

2)language: @Magnardo..Your English is much better than my Latvian :) In fact, I only speak one language and sometimes not even that very well. I really admire anyone who can speak more than one language.

3)Criticism (negative harsh vicious etc): We all live in glass houses...let whoever is without sin cast the first stone. Rodney King "Can't we all just get along?"
 
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J.R. said:
This doorknob is important to me

Nice doorknob :) and interesting story, actually I have some shots like this myself - it's just my point that you don't need a 63 point af system to take it or an expensive L prime for this resolution (a 50/1.8 would do).

Ray2021 said:
I think we have plumbed the bottom of the Ken Rockwell topic.... perhaps we can stop now? :)

All KR topics end this way, but it's like like a train wreck, hard to look away :p
 
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Ray2021 said:
I think we have plumbed the bottom of the Ken Rockwell topic.... perhaps we can stop now? :)

...well..the topic is shallow enough that it should only have been one page..tell ya what...why don't we all use at least $10,000.00 of photo equipment to post some really bad snapshots of our kids here, in honor of Ken and then call it a day?
 
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