Love or Hate Canon Rumors Forum

[J.R.]

I've learnt a lot of information about my gear on this forum which would have been impossible otherwise. I live in India and out here pro level gear users are difficult to find and seek advice from.

As with every forum, you are bound to find posters here with obtuse behaviour who engage in name calling and back and forth arguing - there's a poster here who got flamed for using his 1dx for shooting only ... sports .

But I guess as a regular poster you learn what discussions to get into and which to avoid.

I find that after engaging in a distasteful discussion, I usually avoid posting for a few days, but then I find myself coming back again

 

[pdirestajr]

I like that this forum has a mix of different backgrounds: seasoned pros from various photographic fields, tech guys and scientists, gear heads, designers, artists, serious hobbyists and people just starting out.

At the end of the day photography is just another form of visual communication with no right and wrong. It's fun talking about the gear we use, but the end result is the only thing that matters.

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

But as all things on the internet go, your anonymous so people will tend to act differently than they do in the real world. I know I am kind of an exception to that here, as my handle is my real name... 8)

And that is why I use my name. If I post something I am willing to stand behind it. If I am mistaken or wrong, I will admit it and/or appologize.

I have learned a lot from this forum and have gotten some great advice from it's members.

We are the minority here for sure, but proud we are, yes!

 

[rpt]

when I found canon rumors I was glad thinking people who use and love canon cameras & lens. it didn't take long to see I was very wrong been thinking about leaving for some time now. maybe go to Nikon rumors if they have one to find all the canon guys living there since all the Nikon fan boys are here !! really don't like the wild west attitude no one in charge trouble makers just keep coming back to screw things up for the few good guys here. I try not to read all the bull crap posts but there is so many most of them I think never even owned a camera . maybe I Should cherry pick the posts more and not spend so much time here and just have a look once in a wile for new gear rumors . Gary

When things go south (or north - if you are an Aussie or a kiwi or... you get my drift...) I look at pictures shot by the great photogs on this forum. "Anything shot with a..." and others.

I have learned a lot on this forum. I also like the friendliness and humor. There are always going to be the PITA persons. Like someone said it is human nature - pity about that. However, all in all, my experience is more positive than negative.

 

[distant.star]

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Good thread; thanks for starting it.

Overall, I don't take a forum like this seriously enough to get emotional one way or another. I suspect much of whatever conflict happens comes from people giving this more weight than it deserves.

I'm glad you mentioned the international aspect -- that's something I especially love. It gives me hope that maybe we humans actually do stand a chance of not blowing up the planet one day. Ordinary people talking to one another is far more useful than the grandstanding of heads of state. (And I still miss Brian and his banter with all of us. Hope he is well!)

One other thing I especially like is that it's not anonymous. The guy who runs this site is a real person with a family, and some of us know him to varying degrees. It's nice to know that anything we do here may contribute to the support of a genuinely nice guy. That's sort of a log-in-the-fireplace feeling to me, where many other forums/sites are cold and impersonal.

If this site went down, I'd REALLY miss it -- and I can't think of any other site I'd say that about.

Thanks for asking.

 

[pgsdeepak]

i recently joined this forum. So far the experience is very positive and helpful. My transition from a Crop camera w/ decent Non L Lens user to a FF Camera with good (not the best) L lens user is almost fully based on the opinion and advices I received from this forum. The people who shares their opinion might be experts or not, who cares, most of them actually used the device or tried certain things or bought from a certain stores, whatever it is, there is a lot of good information being shared and it has definitely helped people like me. Many of the threads and responses are good intentional and fun. Ofcourse there are other threads like whining about new camera or lens releases which does not live up to expectations, or criticizing certain photo or photographer etc etc, for those and all, we can ignore if we are not interested or sit back and read and enjoy if we are interested or join the fun if we are really interested. After all its a forum, people can share opinion ;D

 

[expatinasia]

Interesting thread and I agree with most of your points.

I do feel the website owners can make the site more mobile friendly, and I am not talking Taptalk (or whatever it is called). I am sure vbulletin or other forum software have got good mobile options. Even just adding larger or better navigation would help mobile users, especially those on smartphones (rather than tablets).

One thing I am not a big fan of is people that promote their own websites. I humbly believe that is what their signatures are for if they so desire to use them, and that is great. But threads that are about X and then suggest you to visit the site to learn more, or see the picture they are talking about, I feel is just advertising even if it can be interesting. With posts like that they should embed the picture into the post rather than trying to get humans and search engines to visit their site.

In the whole there seems to be a lot of nice people on these forums, I even considered contacting CR guy when he came to Vietnam, Thailand etc to see if he fancied a beer or two, but sometimes anonymity is useful and so did not bother.

 

[Hobby Shooter]

But as all things on the internet go, your anonymous so people will tend to act differently than they do in the real world. I know I am kind of an exception to that here, as my handle is my real name... 8)

And that is why I use my name. If I post something I am willing to stand behind it. If I am mistaken or wrong, I will admit it and/or appologize.

I have learned a lot from this forum and have gotten some great advice from it's members.

I used to have another user name that was sort of my initials, but have changed to a neutral one. I am using my real name on my Youtube channel which I have gotten to regret as I have been attacked personally by quite scary people (not a fun thing when you have a couple of young children, therefore I have decided to be more anonymous. By I have no problems standing behind my posts and are very willing to give up my identity to anyone who asks for it.

Back to the OP, this forum has become a drug for me. I have learned so much over the last 18 months since I discovered it. It all started when I googled for Canon rumors on the 5D3 to see when it would be announced as I wanted to upgrade my 60D. I normally like the discussion here and find it to be a good combination of tech and photography. Occasionally I would like more of photography techniques but there are obviously other channels for that.

 

[Dylan777]

Do you consider your wife as a perfect "woman" in the world?

Love it and hate it, I visit CRs at least 5-10 a day. EVERYDAYS ;D

 

[DCM1024]

I have had both good and bad experiences on this forum.

Good experiences: many people have been helpful, especially Mt. Spokane & Neuro. Their help on selecting a shutter speed for a dove release at a wedding last year directly led to more people hiring me this year, because they liked that shot. I have also dealt with posters who have been rude & unkind. I try to ignore them. There have been times when others have complained to the moderators on my behalf and posts have been removed. I want this forum as a learning experience. Yes, I get get paid for work, but that doesn't mean I am the guru - I want to learn more, too.

 

[expatinasia]

Do you consider your wife as a perfect "woman" in the world?

That must surely depend whether she is a member of CR or not, and she knows who you are!!

 

[rifz]

Is there a way to start at the beginning of a thread, instead of the end? thanks

 

[Rienzphotoz]

I like Canon Rumors, it helps me unwind but sometimes it also gets me wound up ;D
Although I don't like some posts, for the most part I still do learn something new or interesting from them.
For me CR has been a very informative forum and I like reading and contributing here.

 

[Albi86]

I could go on, but that's a good start. How about others? What is it that makes you want to never again return to this site. And what is it that keeps bringing you back here?

There are two sort of users:
- Group 1: Photography enthusiasts who use Canon gear and want to learn more or exchange opinions about it, but are also ready to criticize Canon when they're disappointed about a product and/or comparing Canon's offer to the competition;
- Group 2: Canon enthusiasts who have a sort of religious-like attitude toward their favourite multinational company and take every negative feedback as an outrage to their person.

So what happens is that whenever someone from Group 1 criticizes Canon (or praises another company) about something there will be someone from Group 2 calling him a troll or - the most ludicrous - a bad photographer. Every sort of argument will be used to prove that Canon is better - even if they're plainly and extremely OT.

In my experience the second group is the problem, as it is aggressive: they often feel personally attacked and reply consequently. It happens the same (or even worse) in Apple-dedicated fora as well as local/national Canon Club boards. The attitude towards DxO measurement would be an example of that: they don't say that my gear is better? They're a bunch of fools and they don't know what they're talking about.

In my experience, in other boards where people are less biased about one or another company, things are smoother. People don't feel outraged by negative comments about this or that, so they don't reply aggressively and rudely, and no flame is triggered. Actually, it's important to know what's good and what's bad about a piece of gear, and when people seek this sort of unbiased knowledge the whole environment is more relaxed and polite and people are more motivated to post well-written replies and keep it peaceful and civilized.

So why am I here? As a Canon user it's always interesting to see how people handle their Canon-compatible gear. Knowing the strenghts and the limits of something gives me a good idea of what is worth buying and what is not. But I definitely belong to Group 1: I shoot both Canon and Nikon and I absolutely don't care about brands. I always try to buy the best gear I can afford, so I'm not interested in praising Canon products for the sake of it. That's not constructive.

 

[wickidwombat]

personally I am also really sick of the MASS DR DEBATE. all the posts and threads relating to that waffle should be quarantined to an area labled "YES WE KNOW THE D800 IS TEH BESTESTER AND HAS 14 STOPS OF DR!!!!1!!"

but there is a wealth of information here, as you said many people share alot of info and there is plenty to be learned. I'm always learning new things on this site

I think you can learn more here than paying thousands of dollars to a "pro's" workshop where they share a little select bit of info and gloss over the parts that are REALLY going to help. because at the end of the day they dont really want you to be competative with them

the international multicultural aspect is also good

 

[alexanderferdinand]

I think it`s interesting to read some opinions and news.
And to see, how others work with their equipment.

Nothing about love or hate.

 

[mb66energy]

I really like canonrumors because
* there is a lot of knowledge based opinion (which has much more reliability than simple tech specs)
* a wide spread attitude to help others if they do some decisions
* a lot of tech info about existing hardware, software and its combinations
* some information about upcoming trends

Sometimes I see some "fanatic fights" between persons - but I try to filter the arguments from these debates and if there is nothing left ... what the hell.

If discussions go mad: A good motivation for doing what cameras a lenses are aimed at, taking photos. - Best, Michael

 

[Hobby Shooter]

I could go on, but that's a good start. How about others? What is it that makes you want to never again return to this site. And what is it that keeps bringing you back here?

There are two sort of users:
- Group 1: Photography enthusiasts who use Canon gear and want to learn more or exchange opinions about it, but are also ready to criticize Canon when they're disappointed about a product and/or comparing Canon's offer to the competition;
- Group 2: Canon enthusiasts who have a sort of religious-like attitude toward their favourite multinational company and take every negative feedback as an outrage to their person.

So what happens is that whenever someone from Group 1 criticizes Canon (or praises another company) about something there will be someone from Group 2 calling him a troll or - the most ludicrous - a bad photographer. Every sort of argument will be used to prove that Canon is better - even if they're plainly and extremely OT.

In my experience the second group is the problem, as it is aggressive: they often feel personally attacked and reply consequently. It happens the same (or even worse) in Apple-dedicated fora as well as local/national Canon Club boards. The attitude towards DxO measurement would be an example of that: they don't say that my gear is better? They're a bunch of fools and they don't know what they're talking about.

In my experience, in other boards where people are less biased about one or another company, things are smoother. People don't feel outraged by negative comments about this or that, so they don't reply aggressively and rudely, and no flame is triggered. Actually, it's important to know what's good and what's bad about a piece of gear, and when people seek this sort of unbiased knowledge the whole environment is more relaxed and polite and people are more motivated to post well-written replies and keep it peaceful and civilized.

So why am I here? As a Canon user it's always interesting to see how people handle their Canon-compatible gear. Knowing the strenghts and the limits of something gives me a good idea of what is worth buying and what is not. But I definitely belong to Group 1: I shoot both Canon and Nikon and I absolutely don't care about brands. I always try to buy the best gear I can afford, so I'm not interested in praising Canon products for the sake of it. That's not constructive.

And then let's add a third group of people that are spending their time on this forum badmouthing Canon in attempts to get attention for whatever reasons. They normally say that they are non-biased and calling themselves the true photographers, but they are always biased against Canon and are constantly getting in the way for balanced discussions.

 

[PKinDenmark]

This thread made me register and enter my first response / post here.

I enjoy the CR Forum.
It is very informative and several very skilled and well-informed people offer valuable information. Also a good share of the many questions asked relate well to my interests.
Thank you !!

Having learned (through around 6 months of following the forum) to find the golden nuggets and skip the stuff less relevant for me (or idling), I gain a lot of knowledge from CR Forum.

Being an photo-active hobbyist, I try to be not too gear-obsessed, but focus on making photographs.
I generally find that the most important way to improve is not by changing the gear but by learning how to photograph better.
That said I am now mature for a body upgrade. I started out with a Canon G5 (loved it), moved to an EOS 450D/rebel XSi (even more so), now with a nice set of Canon optics. Has served me well for almost 5 years.
Now my head spins with considerations like: Crop of FF? What specific news to come from Canon re. crop-bodies? How big a move to make? etc.

Here CR Forum serves my need for information perfectly. (And I may start posting my own questions soon).

 

[Sporgon]

I followed CR for some time as a rumour site, and found it interesting. Began to read some of the forum posts and found that unlike other forum 'discussions' that I had come across CR seemed to be populated, on the whole, by intelligent, courteous people who either knew their stuff or were a sponge to receive the information.

Also many of the photos posted were ( and are ) superb. So I joined and it's the only forum I have ever been involved in.

Inevitably you get a few of the aggressive 'forum speak' posters who can be insulting whilst hiding behind anonymity, but they are generally few and far between.

With regard to the continual resurfacing of topics such as ( the dreaded ) DR, despite the often inane postings by troubled souls, there is some really good information that can be gleaned, such as the fact that Canon sensors respond better to over exposing slightly if the EV range allows. So even the latest rant on the subject was not totally in vain.

The more aggressively a poster puts his view across the less likely it is to hold any substance, so it's often easy to avoid following Red Herrings.

I also enjoy the truly global scope of the forum - it's not so much it's a small world, it's just we move in small circles ;D