Meeting Canons reps

[Flake]

Three of them, sometimes alone and as a group, but all were singing off the same hymn sheet.

No news on the 5D MkIII but Canon has made a decision to quit the megapixel war, so don't expect a camera which will be trying to outdo a 36MP Nikon. Image quality is paramount, not resolution.

24 - 70mm f/2.8 L no IS on a new one because of a few factors: Size, simply too big or fat, weight, cost (it would apparantly need a new IS designing), power requirements (for some reason the IS needs to be bigger than in the telephoto lenses), and mostly because of the compromise it makes to image quality. They believe that Nikon was unable to address this also. Their advice was to stick to the f/4 24 - 105mm L if you need IS, f/4 is much easier to design & implement an IS system for.

EVIL no news but they did say they were hoping for one too, either a Nikon V1 size sensor in a sensibly sized compact body, or a NEX competitor.

Very cagey about possibly price increases hiding behind exchange rate variations.

 

[Isaac]

The Canon Reps hold no more than a mere opinion. Canon do not inform their reps weeks or months before an announcement, at most a day or two - just like all of us over here.

 

[DavidM]

I agree with Isaac, as far as we know canon may come out with a 32-40mp camera. All these reps are speculating just like everyone else.

My 0.02 cents ;D

 

[Flake]

Ah but this is not opinion on new products, it's clear that the reps have a company philosphy on the megapixel race, and the 24 - 70mm IS is a technical point.

 

[DavidM]

Ah but this is not opinion on new products, it's clear that the reps have a company philosphy on the megapixel race, and the 24 - 70mm IS is a technical point.

what does the company philosophy mean? we also have the company outlook etc. people are on canon rumors talking and learning all day every day!

 

[Jettatore]

If you print something huge, poster sized or larger, more often then not, it's meant to be viewed from a bit of extra distance, and not the same viewing distance as looking at a picture in a magazine or a wallet sized photo. So unless there is a need to print @ a huge sizes and then still expect crystal clear detail upon up close inspection, better ISO performance across the range would be a far greater asset, and is what I would prefer in new camera upgrades at the moment. 18 Megapixels already meets/exceeds the requirements for High IQ printing at regular viewing distances of any size.

We have great performance at ISO 100 and 200, and very usable yet gradually deteriorating performance all the way through to 1600-3200 depending on the camera body. The somewhat higher ISO's preform even better if they are being used in adequate lighting conditions. Any improvement on low-light and higher ISO performance is a huge plus and one of the many things I'm looking forward to from the next generation of DSLR's. Nice decision Canon.

 

[Stu_bert]

Ah but this is not opinion on new products, it's clear that the reps have a company philosphy on the megapixel race, and the 24 - 70mm IS is a technical point.

Company philosophies can change on a regular basis. Canon would not be telling their reps to spout on about MP race when their top of the range is a reduced MP. However, should they launch one then they can say "it fits a certain segment of the market..." and they are responding to needs.

So yes they are keeping the party line. I believe that. Don't believe they have any knowledge of what is coming...

 

[te4o]

Most probably can-reps read here on this forum like anyone else and know no more. I haven't seen one rep in the medical industry who can reliably speak of company decisions and strategies.

 

[distant.star]

Thanks, Flake.

Always interesting to hear some informed opinion, for whatever it may be worth.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I think its hilarious. Nikon got beatup by their users for having too few MP, while Canon was criticized for tpp many mp, and they are heading in different directions.

It is good to have choices, and it would not be a good thing if all makes of camera were alike. We may have a wide range of choiices, something for everybody.

 

[Isaac]

I think its hilarious. Nikon got beatup by their users for having too few MP, while Canon was criticized for tpp many mp, and they are heading in different directions.

It is good to have choices, and it would not be a good thing if all makes of camera were alike. We may have a wide range of choiices, something for everybody.

Honestly I think that the MP race is a thing of the past. There has to be a cut off point where it simply isn't viable meaning the costs outweigh the benefits. I think that 28-32mp would be perfect for the new 5D3.

 

[Eagle Eye]

I think its hilarious. Nikon got beatup by their users for having too few MP, while Canon was criticized for tpp many mp, and they are heading in different directions.

It is good to have choices, and it would not be a good thing if all makes of camera were alike. We may have a wide range of choiices, something for everybody.

Honestly I think that the MP race is a thing of the past. There has to be a cut off point where it simply isn't viable meaning the costs outweigh the benefits. I think that 28-32mp would be perfect for the new 5D3.

It's a thing of the past yet your hope is a nearly 50% increase in megapixels in the next full frame body? Um...

 

[niccyboy]

Thanks Flake,

I think it's quite amusing people guessing what information that the canon reps know.

As Flake also pointed out, they are mere observations that the Canon reps told.

It's quite clear that they aren't chasing MP as the 1dx wasn't a big jump forward and has less MP than a 3 year old Nikon d3x. The canon reps were just justifying and possibly following what an internal explanation of why the decrease or lack of major increase was made.

The IS on the 24-70 has been discussed to death on here, and again it's a technical point. No profound statement on how the 5dmk3 has batman wings and can fly. It was merely how difficult it would be to put in, expenses etc. This is something quite straightforward and wouldn't be something Canon was hiding in secrecy over. So the chances that it may have been discussed among canon reps and staff is a strong possibility. The release date and specs of a new model werent discussed so it's not going to be NDA material, it's merely some information about what canon ARENT doing!

Note the wording on the 'EVIL' statement.. it's their opinions.



This is a rumours forum. So the perfect place for this to be... haha

 

[DavidM]

I think its hilarious. Nikon got beatup by their users for having too few MP, while Canon was criticized for tpp many mp, and they are heading in different directions.

It is good to have choices, and it would not be a good thing if all makes of camera were alike. We may have a wide range of choiices, something for everybody.

Honestly I think that the MP race is a thing of the past. There has to be a cut off point where it simply isn't viable meaning the costs outweigh the benefits. I think that 28-32mp would be perfect for the new 5D3.

It's a thing of the past yet your hope is a nearly 50% increase in megapixels in the next full frame body? Um...

Um.. i think when people day mp race it means 100% jump and more eg. d700 to d800.

21mp to 28mp/30mp is not considered a massive jump. when we say mp race we're talking like 21mp to 36mp and up