Military Aircraft: airshows, operational, whatever, lets see what you have!

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candyman said:
Roo said:
Valvebounce said:
Hi Roo.
Very nice shots, love the mini tornado, the wall of fire looks spectacular!

Cheers, Graham.

Thanks Graham

Here's a few of the WW1 aircraft flying

Very nice series Roo.

The airplane in the fourth picture is odd.
Doesn't seem te be one that was used in the period that the nazis were in power. So don't get it why they put a swastika.

The Nazi swastika was quite different, it was at 45º and the 'legs' went the other way. As it is drawn on the earlier plane it is as the religious symbol in India and the Far East, it is important in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, and is sometimes actually drawn the other way around too. But I believe only the Nazi's drew it at 45º. In Europe and the USA it is very stigmatised and closely connected to Fascism and extreme right wing leaning people, whereas in India and the Far East it has no such connotations and is considered auspicious. It is a little disconcerting the first few times Westerners see it daubed randomly in holy places though.

Obviously it is a German plane and I am sure it progressed from the original auspicious symbol it represents as drawn into the Nazi version many of us are familiar with.

True, the Nazis used the swastika as you said 45 degrees but also mirrored compared to the sign on the plane.
The combination of the black cross (implication that it is a German - or Nazis - airplane) and the swastika (the way it is drawn here on the airplane) is questionable. If it would be an Indian plane the swastika could make sense but not the black cross. Just puzzled here...
 
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Valvebounce said:
Hi Roo.
Yet again very nice shots, do you know, are they replicas or preserved originals?

Cheers, Graham.

There was a mixture of restoration, reproduction and replica aircraft Graham. Most of the 11 flying at the show came from the Vintage Aviator in NZ. It took them 5 days to dismantle and pack them into a container and another 3 days to reassemble when they got here (they assure me there were no left over parts!). A couple of the replicas were made years ago for the movie the Blue Max including a Pfalz copy that was made from a Gypsy Moth. They can now make reproduction Mercedes aero engines. They said the parts are relatively cheap but a full reproduction aircraft will still cost you 7 figures.
 
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Valvebounce said:
Hi Roo.
I don't doubt that, has anyone come out with a saying for plane similar to the boat one? As in BOAT means Bust Out Another Thousand!

Cheers, Graham.

Roo said:
They said the parts are relatively cheap but a full reproduction aircraft will still cost you 7 figures.

Can't help you with planes, but LOTUS (the car maker), means Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious.
 
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expatinasia said:
Viper28 said:
been a while since I check on this thread so here are a few from the UK low fly zone of the 48th FW F15E's:

Simon, those shots are mind blowingly good!

Wow, do you ever take friends along to shoot with you? Must be quite an experience even if you don't want to take pictures!

Thanks all!

Yes I have taken people up there with me but TBH it can be a bit boring. Its very hit and miss if you see anything, these are operational sorties so they may or may not appear. You get to see them for 5 or 6 seconds, so yes AF and FPS are important to me.

Most common around Wales are the BAe Systems Hawks:
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Valvebounce said:
Hi Simon.
Very nice series of the Hawks, do they ever give a thumbs up to you for climbing all that way to look down on them? ;D Probably not, guess they are a bit busy in a confined place! ::)

Cheers, Graham.

Thanks! Rare for the hawk crews as thats a trainee and a IP, one of which will be praying for his life at 250" / 450-knots. The frontline crews, particularly the rear navigators quite often do, USAF Eagle crews are probably the most frequent, but the best are probably the C130 Hercules crews who hang out windows, open backs etc. Mind you they are a lot slower!
 
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