Mirrorless vs DSLR Camera

[mbworldz]

I know the Sony A7R is a hit. But I haven't seen any professional wedding photographers using this camera on location. Are they still prefer using the DSLR like the Canon 5DM3.......if this camera is light weight and good quality, why don't they use it ? I myself is a Canon shooter with the 1DX. Tried the Sony once just find it complicated LOL plus the LCD in the back can't turn off. It bothers !

Is Mirrorless has faster focusing?

 

[ecka]

EVF lag.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

To say that Sony A7R "is a success" is too subjective. Success compared to what other camera? Actually A7R Sony is the only camera in its class, and has no direct competitors. The wedding photographers need reliable equipment, above all. In this aspect Canon DSLR and Nikon dominate the market.

The line of lenses and accessories A7R is very limited, and the history of Sony to abandon some product lines, uncooperative in doing exciting things. Believe it can be used "second camera" at weddings, but not as the main system. The future may be dominated by mirrorless, but this day has not yet arrived.

 

[crashpc]

NT

Why would one jump on newer camera with different set of features and qualities, when he has already good system including lenses and stuff, and no need to jump the ship, because new cam won´t bring more money?
Doesn´t make sense. Do you always have new Ferrari model (of course if any, the same as with Sony here) if they release it?
....No....

 

[Loswr]

I know the Sony A7R is a hit.

Based on? It seems to be 'a hit' with a few forum posters and some bloggers. In terms of sales, perhaps less of a hit...

 

[tolusina]

....... Do you always have new Ferrari model.......

I think this is a poor allegory.
If I was to ever be in the Ferrari ownership demographic, certainly I'd always want the latest.
Contrarily, Sony and Apple too are completely safe from any and all concerns regarding dispersal of any funds earned from me, and, sorry Ferrari, you'll only ever earn my money in my dreams.
Canon, you already have too much from me, I promise there'll be more.

 

[mbworldz]

Just based on lots of people talking about it. I got some of my friends bought it also. I am not a fan of sony cameras - mirrorless. I love my Mark 3 and 1DX. I just can't hold a small camera to do wedding photograhy lol. It feels and can you imagine every one including the guests all using that camera.

I know the Sony A7R is a hit.

Based on? It seems to be 'a hit' with a few forum posters and some bloggers. In terms of sales, perhaps less of a hit...

 

[StudentOfLight]

I don't have hands on experience with the camera, but from reviews I've read it does not sound like the ideal camera for wedding photography.

The camera is noisy (no silent shutter like the 5D-III and 6D.)
The focusing is perhaps not as fast as DSLRs in poor light.
I don't think it has dual memory card slots (e.g. for backup copies, you would need to rely in Wifi SD-cards)
The battery life is perhaps a bit worse than DSLRs
The Sony flash system is perhaps not as versatile or reliable as the Nikon or Canon systems.

Anyway, this is just the impression I get... I might be wrong on any of the points above.

 

[9VIII]

I know the Sony A7R is a hit. But I haven't seen any professional wedding photographers using this camera on location. Are they still prefer using the DSLR like the Canon 5DM3.......if this camera is light weight and good quality, why don't they use it ? I myself is a Canon shooter with the 1DX. Tried the Sony once just find it complicated LOL plus the LCD in the back can't turn off. It bothers !

Is Mirrorless has faster focusing?

I still don't see wedding photographers using more than entry level camera bodies, I've certainly never seen a 1D.

 

[zlatko]

I still don't see wedding photographers using more than entry level camera bodies, I've certainly never seen a 1D.

There are plenty of wedding photographers using the Nikon D3, D4, D4s, D700, D800 and the Canon 1D series. For a long time, my main wedding cameras were the original 1D, 1DII, 1DIIN and 1DIII. Currently I mainly use the 5D3 and 6D as they are easier to carry than the 1D series. I also use the Olympus E-M1 and Canon SL1 for their smaller size. The smaller cameras are really fun. Of the Sony A7 series, the A7S is probably the most interesting for weddings right now.

 

[raptor3x]

Is Mirrorless has faster focusing?

Nowhere near as fast as a DSLR outside of ideal conditions, but they're pretty good in bright light on static subjects when using native lenses.

 

[benperrin]

I still don't see wedding photographers using more than entry level camera bodies, I've certainly never seen a 1D.

You need to get out more. I don't know of any seasoned pros that are using entry level gear. Amateurs and newbies are (for good reason).

 

[distant.star]

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Allegory?

Surely, it's the tiniest and most arcane and obscure allegory ever created.

....... Do you always have new Ferrari model.......

I think this is a poor allegory.
If I was to ever be in the Ferrari ownership demographic, certainly I'd always want the latest.
Contrarily, Sony and Apple too are completely safe from any and all concerns regarding dispersal of any funds earned from me, and, sorry Ferrari, you'll only ever earn my money in my dreams.
Canon, you already have too much from me, I promise there'll be more.

 

[deleteme]

I still don't see wedding photographers using more than entry level camera bodies, I've certainly never seen a 1D.

You need to get out more. I don't know of any seasoned pros that are using entry level gear. Amateurs and newbies are (for good reason).

I think his observation is based on the fact that so many of the wedding shooters remaining ARE amateur/newbies. There are a fair number of seasoned pros using top gear for weddings but the trend for revenue of wedding shooters has been down. The number of wedding shooters selling workshops to newbs on how to make big bucks shooting weddings is certainly up.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I know the Sony A7R is a hit. But I haven't seen any professional wedding photographers using this camera on location. Are they still prefer using the DSLR like the Canon 5DM3.......if this camera is light weight and good quality, why don't they use it ? I myself is a Canon shooter with the 1DX. Tried the Sony once just find it complicated LOL plus the LCD in the back can't turn off. It bothers !

Is Mirrorless has faster focusing?

You are not likely to see many professional photographers using Sony. One big reason is their poor service, it can take months to get a repair. Professionals have to consider a whole system, they can't afford to have equipment in for repairs for months. They need all the pieces in place. I don't know how reliable they are, but, if they can't have a reasonable turnaround on repairs, it gets to be very expensive. Every brand breaks down, no one is immune. Canon has the best and fastest service for professionals - hands down. Even Nikon takes far to long to repair a item, but Sony is in a class by themselves.

 

[Ruined]

I know the Sony A7R is a hit. But I haven't seen any professional wedding photographers using this camera on location. Are they still prefer using the DSLR like the Canon 5DM3.......if this camera is light weight and good quality, why don't they use it ? I myself is a Canon shooter with the 1DX. Tried the Sony once just find it complicated LOL plus the LCD in the back can't turn off. It bothers !

Is Mirrorless has faster focusing?

-Horrible battery life (this is likely largest issue)
-EVF inferior
-Paltry native lens selection, and canon adapter has major issues
-Paltry accessory ecosystem
-Autofocus inferior
-Ergonomic nightmare with popular wedding lenses such as the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II

While a camera enthusiast could probably get past some of these issues, for a wedding photographer or other professional they are major stumbling blocks... Which is why the A7 has been unpopular with professionals - although in the US equally priced Canon/Nikon DSLRs greatly outsell the a7/a7r in general.

 

[zlatko]

Canon has the best and fastest service for professionals - hands down.

I agree 100%. Canon service = awesome.

 

[pablo]

The A7 is a headline camera. not a mature system.

Jaw dropping specs for the price, well targeted models for specific target models, of course Canon should have made something like it, full frame - doh! a 4k variant - doh! a high resolution version - doh! a low light king with 400k+ plus iso? doh! canon. doh! doh! doh!

I'm selling all my eos gear and buying one tomorrow, just lie I did when the d90 came out with video, even though I had to buy it all anew when the 5d2 came out, only to sell it again when d800 came out,only to buyit all again when the d800 kept breaking, of course with a detour by the fuji x system on the way, would have kept that but for the orbs...

dang.

If only canon had the freedom to design a camera from scratch, unrestrained by the 75+ range of EF lenses.

So we have the a7. The camera the eos m should have been. oh but without an optical viewfinder (not really getting into the spirit of this mirrorless idea are we?)

Yes folks, I am talking bullocks.

As a video guy I half think, yeah an a7s.... 4k! super!

I need 4k about as much as I need more than 6mp, but thats not the point, when did need come into buying new camera gear.

So I am actually stuck with the boring aka 'mature' EOS system. when what I actually want is to buy a complete new range of newly developed lenses in a newly developed system, that wont work with my flashguns, that wont work with my memory cards, that won't even work with my couple of year old video editing app or generation old photoshop...

And dang that a7, if I want all of its headline features I'm actually going to have to buy and carry 3 cameras.

But the worst mistake of all would be to make my decision based on what wedding ohotographers are doing.

For me 95% of wedding photographers are chancers. A bold statement, and one that will see me accused of trolling / flaming / whatever else. if you are offended by this, i didn't mean YOU, you dear reader are clearly in the 5%, so please, save us both the correspondence...

The upshot is, I'm not going to buy an a7. Sony will ditch the mount come the a8. Sony have the sensor advantage for now, and Nikon are riding on the back of that. nobody else has the canon glass, and in that regard, along with af tech, everybody else has been playing catch up with the ef ststem for most of its life.

so if you need to fill a billboard or the side of a double decker then get an a7r.

if you need a camera that sits at the eye and can change af modes, wb modes, track at 8-10fps, in the rain then get a canon.

 

[mb66energy]

I know the Sony A7R is a hit. But I haven't seen any professional wedding photographers using this camera on location. Are they still prefer using the DSLR like the Canon 5DM3.......if this camera is light weight and good quality, why don't they use it ? I myself is a Canon shooter with the 1DX. Tried the Sony once just find it complicated LOL plus the LCD in the back can't turn off. It bothers !

Is Mirrorless has faster focusing?

My wedding photography experience is restricted to roughly 10 weddings of friends who asked me to take photographs (with Powershot G2 ("worst case"), 40D and 600D).

If you want to catch precious moments you need a system that is very responsive - in terms of viewfinder, AF, exposure - and which is reliable to do the task right. I do not own the Sony or a similar camera. But extrapolating from my EOS M experience I see theses systems as slow and not well equipped with external controls to react instantanously. Using the EOS M was in the first time like using a mini tablet computer which produces images of stunning quality - IMO the wrong feel for a camera.

I see the Sony 7x or the EOS M as high quality walk around cameras for moderately fast or static subjects where you have the chance to repeat a shot. The main advantage is the very high IQ compared to the size of these cameras if you use compact lenses (no high aperture tele).

 

[crashpc]

....... Do you always have new Ferrari model.......

I think this is a poor allegory.
If I was to ever be in the Ferrari ownership demographic, certainly I'd always want the latest.
Contrarily, Sony and Apple too are completely safe from any and all concerns regarding dispersal of any funds earned from me, and, sorry Ferrari, you'll only ever earn my money in my dreams.
Canon, you already have too much from me, I promise there'll be more.

Maybe I put it wrong but from what I´ve seen it´s about right. You have the same reason - you have some good and wide gear/system, you´re kinda locked to it, and Sony gear will not make you more money anyway. That way it´s very natural that not many people will jump elsewhere. Only few with very specific reasons and big money will. If I own Porsche, I´ll not jump on new Ferrari model just because it´s max speed is 25kph more...