New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>Finally?</strong>
An update to the 100-400 has been rumored for years. It sort of reminds of the 24-70 replacement rumors. Apparently <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/11/another-ef-100-400-patent/" target="_blank">patent applications for optical formulas</a> don’t guarantee a speedy release. You can see another patent <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/09/canon-ef-100-400-f4-5-6l-is-patent-pending/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>A very solid source says as it stands, a new 100-400 will be announced alongside the EOS 7D Mark II in the late summer/early fall. Even if the availability of the 100-400 is not immediate, Canon feels the two products will fit extremely well together from a marketing standpoint.</p>
<p>Just a hunch about pricing, it won’t be cheap. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BOZ1Y46/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00BOZ1Y46&linkCode=as2&tag=canorumo-20" target="_blank">See Nikon’s new 80-400</a>…… :)</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[lol]

I'm really interested to see what improvements they bring. Probably 90%+ of my all time Canon shots have been with the 100-400, and a lot of those were with a 7D.

Is this where we start the twist vs. push pull zoom arguments on the lens? Again.

 

[Daniel Flather]

Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

 

[Thyg0d]

Would appreciate if they could get it to stay @ f/4 all the way but from the looks of the patents
it looks like it's going to be another f/4-5.6..
From what I've heard the current 100-400 is kinda prone to suck up dust and moisture..
Gotta friend who has one though and he's very satisfied with it..

Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

Highly doubt it, it's way to expensive and heavy to become a kit lens

 

[kennephoto]

Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

Highly doubt it, it's way to expensive and heavy to become a kit lens
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Ha that was my thought, 100-400 kit lens. I want this to happen!!

 

[Apop]

@f4 all the way? no way !, it would make it big and expensive

it would make it a 200-400 f4 ?

Either way i hope to adapt this camera for wildlife pictures, the lens will depend on the price
If it's close to a used 300 f2.8....., i rather go for that one along with a 500 & 70-200

Would appreciate if they could get it to stay @ f/4 all the way but from the looks of the patents
it looks like it's going to be another f/4-5.6..
From what I've heard the current 100-400 is kinda prone to suck up dust and moisture..
Gotta friend who has one though and he's very satisfied with it..

Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

Highly doubt it, it's way to expensive and heavy to become a kit lens

 

[lol]

The dust myth has been around forever, mostly by people who don't have one. It is no worse than any other extending zoom. I rarely need to clean the sensor and I'm rather messy at changing lenses in the field.

Water resistance isn't great, but I've used the 100-400 in rain for hours, unprotected, before enough water gets inside to prevent its use.

As for those wanting f/4, that's what the 200-400 is. Totally different lens category.

 

[Thyg0d]

would be nice with f/4 all the way though.. a 2x Extender III and this one would make one hell of a zoom..

But yeah, of course you're right.. It would be one heavy and probably expensive lens,
Probably in the same price range as the 200-400 which is ridiculously expensive.. :-(

@f4 all the way? no way !, it would make it big and expensive

it would make it a 200-400 f4 ?

Either way i hope to adapt this camera for wildlife pictures, the lens will depend on the price
If it's close to a used 300 f2.8....., i rather go for that one along with a 500 & 70-200

Would appreciate if they could get it to stay @ f/4 all the way but from the looks of the patents
it looks like it's going to be another f/4-5.6..
From what I've heard the current 100-400 is kinda prone to suck up dust and moisture..
Gotta friend who has one though and he's very satisfied with it..

 

[kennephoto]

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost? Either way I'm sure the 100-400 and 7d currently put are great and can make great photos, I just want something new for once since I've usually only bought used. Go savings account!!

 

[lol]

The expensive part of the 200-400 isn't the extender, it is 400mm f/4. You need a lot of glass to make that happen. And if you really do want a 100-400 f/4 of similar quality, that could possibly cost even more to get the longer zoom range corrected. If you genuinely need 400mm f/4, you have to pay for it. This is NOT what the 100-400 zoom is about, which is a greater range alternative to the 70-300 class lenses.

 

[Loswr]

Love my 100-400, would appreciate better IS, full sealing, and optical improvements. If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. Hope they keep push-pull, but could learn to live with rotating extension.

Expensive, yes it will be. But probably worth it.

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?

Ha ha ha. 100-400mm f/4 means the same front element size as the 200/2, 400/4, 200-400/4, etc. Would be a $7K lens easy. Get off this, folks, it'll be f/5.6 at the long end, and likely close to $3K at that.

 

[Thyg0d]

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost? Either way I'm sure the 100-400 and 7d currently put are great and can make great photos, I just want something new for once since I've usually only bought used. Go savings account!!

Or with the extender and good sealing ? That would actually probably make me buy it..

I usually say "Money in the bank is fun you haven't had" but it's the same thing here..
I tend to buy used stuff.. There's such a significant price drop on lenses after just 1 year
I just can't justify the cost..

 

[kennephoto]

Love my 100-400, would appreciate better IS, full sealing, and optical improvements. If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. Hope they keep push-pull, but could learn to live with rotating extension.

Expensive, yes it will be. But probably worth it.

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?

Ha ha ha. 100-400mm f/4 means the same front element size as the 200/2, 400/4, 200-400/4, etc. Would be a $7K lens easy. Get off this, folks, it'll be f/5.6 at the long end, and likely close to $3K at that.

That's fine with me if its 5.6, I highly doubt it would any faster at the long end isn't that why canon makes those primes? Just figured if it had less options like the rumored 200-400 it would be cheaper.

 

[emag]

"Just a hunch about pricing, it won’t be cheap."

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Hard to know what will be more interesting/entertaining - the equipment or the forum screaming over the price. The lens will of course be priced in the stratosphere, the 7DII will be shockingly high also. To make up for the crop factor, it will be priced at 1.6x what many would consider reasonable or expected. And likely worth every penny.

 

[Daniel Flather]

Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

Highly doubt it, it's way to expensive and heavy to become a kit lens

Ha that was my thought, 100-400 kit lens. I want this to happen!!

No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.

 

[traveller]

If true, then it's time to buy the current 100-400mm, if you value your wallet!

Judging by the price of the new Nikon, the replacement will be cost twice as much for a modest boost in wide open performance, an extra stop or two of IS and probably a conventional zoom ring design.

Some will value these enough to part with an extra grand...

 

[kennephoto]

Will the rumored 7D come with a new kit lens?

Highly doubt it, it's way to expensive and heavy to become a kit lens

Ha that was my thought, 100-400 kit lens. I want this to happen!!

No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.

Lol oops misread that, well I will take a 7d2 with a 100-400 II then! There's my kit.

 

[docsmith]

A new 100-400 L is probably the single lens release I covet the most. I use the current version extensively but would love to see 2 more stops of IS, faster AF, and slightly better optics.

What I am concerned about is the front thread size. I am hoping they stay at 77 mm, but I have a feeling they will go to 82 mm. Of course, if you are spending $2,500-$3,000 on a lens, what's a couple more hundred in filters.

 

[rs]

100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?

Same constant aperture, and a 4x zoom range instead of 2x for half the cost? A built in TC doesn't account for that much of the cost!

A replacement 100-400 will not be f4 at the long end, unless its bigger and more expensive than the still missing 200-400. There's a need for a lens the size/weight/price/focal length range of the existing 100-400. That means any replacement will be f5.6 at the long end.

(The price will be about double the existing model :-\)

 

[wsmith96]

I'll get excited about this lens when it is available for purchase - until then I'm burnt out on annoucements, pre-annoucements, etc with no definitive delivery dates. It reminds me of google and their perpetual beta software. I'm sure this lens will amaze when available.