New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]

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noncho said:
preppyak said:
Daniel Flather said:
No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.
Well, they just updated the 18-55 and 18-135 lenses within the last year; maybe they'll do the 18-200 too, who knows. And they already have a good 17-55 and 15-85, not to mention a 24-105 that works well on crop. Not sure what kit lens they could put out that they don't already offer.

15-60 F4

Nice!!
 
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Plainsman said:
I am saying this is because the current 100-400L is a fine zoom optic and a new version - presumably even better - would seriously cut into the sales of the 200-400 - yep one stop faster but twice the weight and three/four times the price!

I can't see how a £2.5K lens and a £10.5K are in the same market. I have a 400mm f2.8 LIS....and I would love a 100-400 mkII lens. It fulfills a completely different role to my other 400mm lens. It's be smaller, lighter, handholdable, occasional...in fact it might even replace my 70-200 f2.8 LIS II.

The big 400 is for images were I have the time to set it up and I need to melt backgrounds. The 100-400 would be where I need a really versatile and neat long zoom.

The current 75-300 LIS is a fine lens, great optics and build like a tank. I hope this new 100-400 is designed to the same if not better standards. It's a pity that this new lens isn't a 70-400, it would work well as a 2 lens combo with the new 24-70 f4 LIS. The 24-105 LIS is a little old and needs an update.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Love my 100-400, would appreciate better IS, full sealing, and optical improvements. If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome. Hope they keep push-pull, but could learn to live with rotating extension.

Expensive, yes it will be. But probably worth it.

kennephoto said:
100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost?

Ha ha ha. 100-400mm f/4 means the same front element size as the 200/2, 400/4, 200-400/4, etc. Would be a $7K lens easy. Get off this, folks, it'll be f/5.6 at the long end, and likely close to $3K at that.

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It's my travel/safari lens. I hope it folds up small with push-pull. Took it with me on Sunday and captured this pheasant - the white spots are snow (no snow or dust in my lens). I'll buy an upgrade.
 

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dadgummit said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
rumorzmonger said:
neuroanatomist said:
If it's as sharp as the 70-300L, awesome.

I hope they don't downgrade the performance that much - it would be a deal-breaker for me.

I hope that comment was facetious. The 70-300L is optically superior to the current 100-400L in every way

Agreed, I sold my 100-400 for the 70-300L and have no regrets at all. Much better lens.

In every way? Is the 70-300L optically superior at 400mm? ::) Personally, I need 400mm (often more, which is why I bought the 600L II). The 70-300L would be a poor replacement for my 100-400L.
 
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Am I the only one that loves the push/pull zoom?

I find it great for football (american, but both would probably apply; as well as any other large field games, rugby, polo, baseball, etc.), you can see nearly the whole field at 100mm to scan for interesting action, and almost instantly be at 400mm to get in to the action. If you're constantly going from one end of the range to the other, it's much faster with the push/pull.

The push/pull was much less useful, but in no way a hindrance, for things where I was staying at the same focal length for long periods of time; like when I shot a "Dirty Girl" mud run.

Would I want all zooms to be like that? Absolutely not! But I do think the 100-400 and it's common uses lend themselves to the more expedient, brute force method, that the push/pull provides.
 
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noncho said:
ha. I'm not sure I'd rather have a constant f/4 zoom over what the 15-85 already provides. If anything, there is room for Canon to match what Sigma puts out, with something like a 17-70 f/2.8-f/4 zoom that does 1:2 or 1:3 macro. That'd fall in line with their new 24-70 f/4 that does macro on full-frame.

Etienne said:
How about a new 400 5.6L IS ?

smaller, lighter, sharper !
And yours for only $2499!

Especially with IS, hell, it might be more than that.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
bvukich said:
Am I the only one that loves the push/pull zoom?

No. :)

neuroanatomist said:
Hope they keep push-pull, but could learn to live with rotating extension.

When the push/pull is fully extended the length approximates the 400mm focal length which means the lens elements are not "over-worked" as they are in compact designs.

It's one of the reasons why the 100-400 is so good at the top end where many zooms fail miserably.

A new push/pull 100-400 with a super ED element thrown in to improve contrast would be fine by me!
 
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Etienne said:
How about a new 400 5.6L IS ?
smaller, lighter, sharper !

That would be very welcome, but a hard decision. One of the great things about the 100-400L is that you get a 400mm lens that collapses down to the size of a 70-200/2.8. The 400/5.6 is more of a challenge to pack/transport.
 
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If it comes in at about the same price as the Nikon, I won't be disappointed. That's much less than earlier predictions.

I'll hang on to my current 100-400 until the price settles in, compare the quality of the two and then decide if it's worthwhile or not. If the quality is similar to the 70-300 L it will be worth trading up. I actually feel like, for once, I'm in a good position. Glad I picked up the 100-400 when Canon had it in their refurbished store.
 
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noncho said:
preppyak said:
Daniel Flather said:
No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.
Well, they just updated the 18-55 and 18-135 lenses within the last year; maybe they'll do the 18-200 too, who knows. And they already have a good 17-55 and 15-85, not to mention a 24-105 that works well on crop. Not sure what kit lens they could put out that they don't already offer.

15-60 F4

get 2mm on the wide end, and 5 on the long end, and lose a stop of light, plus IS? I'll keep my 17-55, thanks...
 
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Etienne said:
How about a new 400 5.6L IS ?

That's the one lens I would jump on if released.

For me, 400 F5.6 is the upper limit to size and weight of a lens to take with me on trips to the backcountry.... and for that length of lens I would be happier with a sharper fixed focal length than a softer lens with zoom. A fixed lens should be lighter, cheaper, and sharper than a zoom.

And by the way, just because a lens and camera are anounced at the same time does not mean that they are a kit.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Etienne said:
How about a new 400 5.6L IS ?
smaller, lighter, sharper !

That would be very welcome, but a hard decision. One of the great things about the 100-400L is that you get a 400mm lens that collapses down to the size of a 70-200/2.8. The 400/5.6 is more of a challenge to pack/transport.

True in every regard! But only if they keep the push&pull. If they don't, it will not pack that small.
I'd also love to see a new 400mm 5.6.
 
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bvukich said:
Am I the only one that loves the push/pull zoom?

I find it great for football (american, but both would probably apply; as well as any other large field games, rugby, polo, baseball, etc.), you can see nearly the whole field at 100mm to scan for interesting action, and almost instantly be at 400mm to get in to the action. If you're constantly going from one end of the range to the other, it's much faster with the push/pull.

The push/pull was much less useful, but in no way a hindrance, for things where I was staying at the same focal length for long periods of time; like when I shot a "Dirty Girl" mud run.

Would I want all zooms to be like that? Absolutely not! But I do think the 100-400 and it's common uses lend themselves to the more expedient, brute force method, that the push/pull provides.

Neuro and I also love the push-pull. Also, regarding the 70-300L, it's a great lens but too short for me too. An f/5.6 400mm is about the best compromise for a super telephoto that you can throw into your cabin luggage.
 
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Eimajm said:
I'm sure an upgrade on this lens will be a big seller, but for someone who has a 400 5.6 prime, I'm not excited.
Canon are missing a proper upgrade path from the already existing 400 f5.6s. A £4500 400mm F4 prime with 4 stop IS, lighter than 300 2.8 as a replacement for the DO would fill that gap nicely, and be a excellent match to the new 7D if it turns out to be a mini IDX. I could get excited about that.

+1000
 
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kennephoto said:
100-400 F4 without 1.4 extender, Would be a good alternative to the 200-400 maybe half the cost? Either way I'm sure the 100-400 and 7d currently put are great and can make great photos, I just want something new for once since I've usually only bought used. Go savings account!!

at half the cost, that would be close to or topping (US)$5000. That would be very expensive for this lens. I would expect (hope) that the lens comes in below $2500.
 
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wsmith96 said:
I'll get excited about this lens when it is available for purchase - until then I'm burnt out on annoucements, pre-annoucements, etc with no definitive delivery dates. It reminds me of google and their perpetual beta software. I'm sure this lens will amaze when available.

Yea I agree. Canon has either introduced beta products (eye control, DO, ...) which never took hold or been pre-announcing to get buzz and the delaying delivery.

It would nice if they laid out a road map of future products (not necessarily in detail but provide direction of their thinking). THen again, priority and competitive pressures could cause them to change course and then they would need to revised the road with all the negative fall out from that.
 
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