New 100-400 to Launch with EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]

[Etienne]

How about a new 400 5.6L IS ?
smaller, lighter, sharper !

That would be very welcome, but a hard decision. One of the great things about the 100-400L is that you get a 400mm lens that collapses down to the size of a 70-200/2.8. The 400/5.6 is more of a challenge to pack/transport.

The devil's in the details. I'd have to see both, but I would likely favor saving weight and money over size and flexibility. If they both weighed the same and cost the same, I'd choose the 100-400

 

[birtembuk]

Well, maybe a little too high expectations but a combo 7D2 / 100-400II is likely to rock big time. This means putting aside some 5k to be ready in time ...

I for one would also prefer a push-pull. Don't have the 100-400 but tried it. IMO, with a 4xzoom, a push-pull gets you faster where you wanna be. Sometimes, a split second can make a difference.

 

[RS2021]

So, lets see.... 7D2 is a rumor.... A concurrent release of 100-400 II is a rumor upon a rumor... :

Canon ain't replacing this zoom in a hurry...talk about it may be...but we aren't gonna see it anytime soon. But the "CR2" rating should keep the site buzzing for a while and keep the gullible fanboys typing pages upon pages on this rumored zoom...yet again.

 

[brad-man]

"A very solid source says as it stands, a new 100-400 will be announced alongside the EOS 7D Mark II in the late summer/early fall. Even if the availability of the 100-400 is not immediate, Canon feels the two products will fit extremely well together from a marketing standpoint. Just a hunch about pricing, it won’t be cheap."

;D ;D ;D

So 7Dll released around the same time as the 200-400, and the 100-400 sometime after that...

 

[BrandonKing96]

The expensive part of the 200-400 isn't the extender, it is 400mm f/4. You need a lot of glass to make that happen. And if you really do want a 100-400 f/4 of similar quality, that could possibly cost even more to get the longer zoom range corrected. If you genuinely need 400mm f/4, you have to pay for it. This is NOT what the 100-400 zoom is about, which is a greater range alternative to the 70-300 class lenses.

The IS, the constant f/4 in it's range. It's actually stupid to see people want a 100-400 f/4 because they're going to end up losing a lot of quality if they want it for a cheaper price.

 

[wickidwombat]

Okay, I am interested in this lens but... I use and love the 400 5.6 L, and what I would really like is a 500 5.6, with or without "IS" say $2500 without and $3200 with "IS"

Just guessing, but I think 500/5.6 puts it into the ~$4K range based on element size. I doubt we'll see one - over 400mm, Canon wants more of your money than that...

Don't tell Canon, but, I would probably buy it at $3500-$4000. I really think there is a missing $3-$5000 hole in their lineup.

I'd be pretty interested in a 500 f5.6 IS at that price expecially if its not too bulky and has an integrated lens hood like the 300f4L and 400 f5.6 do

 

[noncho]

No, not the 100-400 as a kit, but a new lens otherwise.

Well, they just updated the 18-55 and 18-135 lenses within the last year; maybe they'll do the 18-200 too, who knows. And they already have a good 17-55 and 15-85, not to mention a 24-105 that works well on crop. Not sure what kit lens they could put out that they don't already offer.

15-60 F4

get 2mm on the wide end, and 5 on the long end, and lose a stop of light, plus IS? I'll keep my 17-55, thanks...

If you are looking only the mm here or there go for 18-200
But this would be lighter and cheaper zoom with good range, add great image quality and could be great.
Of course with IS, I thought I don't need to mention it

 

[Marsu42]

Even if the availability of the 100-400 is not immediate, Canon feels the two products will fit extremely well together from a marketing standpoint.

Haha, so after the last (probably unintended) product delays Canon feels like announcing vaporware products is the way to go if it helps marketing? Firmware updates that take half a year to release, big mp camera sometime later, new 100-400 sometime later, mirrorless with faster af sometime later - "We'll announce anything as long as you stay with Canon!".

Canon: Please also announce a 35L2, a 50L2, a small rt flash (430ex2-successor) and rt tiggers for sometime later, will you?

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Okay, I am interested in this lens but... I use and love the 400 5.6 L, and what I would really like is a 500 5.6, with or without "IS" say $2500 without and $3200 with "IS"

Just guessing, but I think 500/5.6 puts it into the ~$4K range based on element size. I doubt we'll see one - over 400mm, Canon wants more of your money than that...

Don't tell Canon, but, I would probably buy it at $3500-$4000. I really think there is a missing $3-$5000 hole in their lineup.

I'd be pretty interested in a 500 f5.6 IS at that price expecially if its not too bulky and has an integrated lens hood like the 300f4L and 400 f5.6 do

Bare in mind that the current 300mm f2.8 LIS II with a 2x TC yeilds a 600mm f5.6...so a 500mm f5.6 LIS isn't going to be much cheaper, lighter or smaller than that combo.

 

[greger]

I want the new 100-400 with twist zoom. I don't want a dust attracter I have one in my 17-85. I am careful to wipe dust off the barrel when it's extended. If it's priced to high, I'll stick with my 70-200 and 2X extender.
140-400 F8 isn't bad for just under 2 grand. Will have to learn how to pan with my tripod for BIF pics. LOL

 

[AJ]

Okay, I am interested in this lens but... I use and love the 400 5.6 L, and what I would really like is a 500 5.6, with or without "IS" say $2500 without and $3200 with "IS"

Just guessing, but I think 500/5.6 puts it into the ~$4K range based on element size. I doubt we'll see one - over 400mm, Canon wants more of your money than that...

Don't tell Canon, but, I would probably buy it at $3500-$4000. I really think there is a missing $3-$5000 hole in their lineup.

I'd be pretty interested in a 500 f5.6 IS at that price expecially if its not too bulky and has an integrated lens hood like the 300f4L and 400 f5.6 do

Yeah me too, I'd be interested.

Front element size should be around 10 cm (IS lenses are always a little bigger than fl/aperture). That's still very portable.

However at that price I'm looking towards Sigma, not Canon. As for 100-400, I think a Canon 100-400/4-5.6 L mk2 will come in around $3.5 to $3.6 k.

 

[tron]

A very solid source says as it stands, a new 100-400 will be announced alongside the EOS 7D Mark II in the late summer/early fall.

Hmmm how a CR2 rumor (for the lens) can include a CR1 rumor (the camera)?

Either should be both CR2 or... CR1.

 

[tron]

A very solid source says as it stands, a new 100-400 will be announced alongside the EOS 7D Mark II in the late summer/early fall.

Hmmm how a CR2 rumor (for the lens) can include a CR1 rumor (the camera)?

Either should be both CR2 or... CR1.

Seriously now, the 100-400 II is becoming an ... urban myth.... ;D ;D ;D

 

[xps]

Sometimes I feel, that Canon and Nikon talk to each other, where the cutoff of the maximum price most buyers will pay for an product is.

I listened to an Nikon-seller information meeting. There will be an 800mm lens with an enormous price of more then 17.000€!!
You can be sure that, if Canon produces something equal to that, the pricelevel will be equal to Nikons price.

In my opinion, the 100-400 II will be priced above the Nikon 80-400. Canon will find an reason to do that.


I love my 100-400, but will think of buying the II version (if not pulling zoom). But only, if the lens will be under 2500.

 

[M.ST]

After a lot of mails to Canon I am now sure that Canon hear at the customers and realease a ...-400 lens this year.

 

[tron]

After a lot of mails to Canon I am now sure that Canon hear at the customers and realease a ...-400 lens this year.

Hmmm it's April 1st today :

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Okay, I am interested in this lens but... I use and love the 400 5.6 L, and what I would really like is a 500 5.6, with or without "IS" say $2500 without and $3200 with "IS"

Just guessing, but I think 500/5.6 puts it into the ~$4K range based on element size. I doubt we'll see one - over 400mm, Canon wants more of your money than that...

Don't tell Canon, but, I would probably buy it at $3500-$4000. I really think there is a missing $3-$5000 hole in their lineup.

I'd be pretty interested in a 500 f5.6 IS at that price expecially if its not too bulky and has an integrated lens hood like the 300f4L and 400 f5.6 do

Yeah me too, I'd be interested.

Front element size should be around 10 cm (IS lenses are always a little bigger than fl/aperture). That's still very portable.

However at that price I'm looking towards Sigma, not Canon. As for 100-400, I think a Canon 100-400/4-5.6 L mk2 will come in around $3.5 to $3.6 k.

Which Sigma? I don't think they have anything comparible in their catalogue to the Canon 200-400. I've used a 120-300 and it was a nice lens but there is so much focus breathing, at min focus distance there's not much benefit over a 70-200/2.8. It might state 120-300 on the lens casing but it rarely is. By my estimates it drops down to a very poor 240mm at MFD. Pop a 1.4x TC on it and it barely scrapes 335mm f4....which isn't much better than a 300mm f4. It's not worth the cost, size or weight in my opinion. Far better off saving for a proper mk I white lens (300/400/500/600).

 

[dallasdave]

I bought a used 100-400 and have had nothing but issues with it (I've sent it to Canon multiple times to get recalibrated), so I would love to see a mark 2 with better IS and image quality at 400mm.

 

[wookiee2cu]

Looking at their recent pricing strategy with the updated 70-200 2.8 and 24-70 2.8 I wouldn't be surprised to see the new 100-400 come in at $2,600-$3,100. I bought the 70-200 2.8 MII (I did not have the MI version), when the 24-70 MII came out I didn't have funds available at the time to get the MI version and by the time I did they were gone so I waited till I had the funds and got the MII. I currently have a 100-400 and use it once in a while and won't bother upgrading as mine works just fine and it is rarely used. Had I already owned the MI versions of the other lenses I more than likely wouldn not have upgraded.

 

[archiea]

New 100-400mm and 7D seems to be quite the couple these days. For sports and wildlife peeps, its piece of standard kit. Here's my predictions:

100-400mm:
1) internal design like the 70-300
2) same f4.5-5.6 aperture
3) weathersealed like the modern L lenses
4) modernized IS
5) price bump but not as much as we think...
6) updated focus
7) Bokeh-licious nine bladed aperture (parity with other L lenses)

Thing is, canon can dip into their cooperate parts bin for bits (weather sealing, IS update) to modernize the lens to keep parity with the L line without radically changing the price point or market for this lens. I think thats critical for them. For wild life and sports, weathersealing is paramount, modernizing the IS and focus, some modern glass to boost contrast, its in line with the updates to the markii's we've seen in the 24-70, 70-200, etc.
An F4 version would be so heavy and pricey, and with the 200-400mm on the horizon, it could potentially cannibalize that market. With the new ISO performance of the newer bodies, and in camera lens corrections, the Achilles heal of CA & vignetting can be minimized. So that last 10% of perfection for many lenses can be corrected in software, keeping the price down.

for the 7D, I'd say a 2 stop high iso performance boost so that 6400 becomes the new 1600, courtesy of canon's brainy Digic chips, hopefully retain the legacy of AF speed & flexibility along with 10fps, in keeping with the 1D-lite legacy.