New 1DX Firmware Version 2

Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
I hope none of these new functions make it to 5D III and 7D, 7D II.

Now there is an even bigger gap between PRO and advanced cameras.

(yes, even TIPA and EISA categorise the 5D III as an advanced camera)

I'm curious to know your line of thinking behind this. Is it just spite, or elitism, or is there an actual rational thought behind it?

I don't try to be smart. I just like the 1D X and just sayin' it' far superior to any other Canon camera.

No need to request features or new 5D or 7D. The perfect camera is already here.

Not spite, not elitism, just 100% realism.
 
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Kwanon said:
Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
I hope none of these new functions make it to 5D III and 7D, 7D II.
Now there is an even bigger gap between PRO and advanced cameras.
I'm curious to know your line of thinking behind this. Is it just spite, or elitism, or is there an actual rational thought behind it?
I don't try to be smart. I just like the 1D X and just sayin' it' far superior to any other Canon camera.
No need to request features or new 5D or 7D. The perfect camera is already here.

Sorry, but your post makes no sense. Yes, the 1D X is a great camera - but if these new features make it into the 5DIII, so much the better. After all, you can buy two of 5DIII bodies for the price of one of your 'perfect cameras'. While the 1D X is a great camera, 'perfect' is a stretch. For example, I'd sure like the 5DIII's quiet shutter (the 1D X's quiet mode simply isn't).

The only possible rationale I can see for your attitude is that if the feature set of the 5DIII improves, it might hurt resale value for the 1D X. I think that's a specious argument, at best. The 1Ds was the 'perfect camera' of its day...and the 5DIII is better in almost every possible way. Build quality and frame rate notwithstanding, I bet the 5DIV will be an improvement over the 'perfect' 1D X in many ways (and we'll see used 1D X availability rise and price fall dramatically, just as happened for the 1DsIII after the 5DIII came out).
 
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Canon1 said:
caruser said:
Am I going crazy, or are they finally giving us a true Auto-ISO in M with exposure compensation?!?!?

That's a pleasant surprise!

You already had this. (At least my 5d3 has it. I assume 1dx does as well)

Please explain how the 5DIII has this...

The idea behind this feature is that you can select an aperture and shutter speed, let the camera choose the ISO to provide a metered exposure, AND apply exposure compensation to adjust the exposure via ISO, on the fly to suit the scene (e.g. a bird in flight with a bright sky background, the metered exposure will underexpose the bird, and applying EC would be a fast fix). Currently, no Canon camera offers this capability (although something similar can be achieved on 1-series bodies with a somewhat kludgy workaround).
 
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Kwanon said:
Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
I hope none of these new functions make it to 5D III and 7D, 7D II.

Now there is an even bigger gap between PRO and advanced cameras.

(yes, even TIPA and EISA categorise the 5D III as an advanced camera)

I'm curious to know your line of thinking behind this. Is it just spite, or elitism, or is there an actual rational thought behind it?

I don't try to be smart. I just like the 1D X and just sayin' it' far superior to any other Canon camera.

No need to request features or new 5D or 7D. The perfect camera is already here.

Not spite, not elitism, just 100% realism.

Got it. So it is elitism, with a bit of spite mixed in.
 
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I have one AF setup with Case 1 and single point on my AF-ON button, next to it I have the AE lock button set to Case 6 with 4 point expansion.

Again, what's different with the new way? I could easily change everything between those to setups.
 
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Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
I hope none of these new functions make it to 5D III and 7D, 7D II.

Now there is an even bigger gap between PRO and advanced cameras.

(yes, even TIPA and EISA categorise the 5D III as an advanced camera)

I'm curious to know your line of thinking behind this. Is it just spite, or elitism, or is there an actual rational thought behind it?

I don't try to be smart. I just like the 1D X and just sayin' it' far superior to any other Canon camera.

No need to request features or new 5D or 7D. The perfect camera is already here.

Not spite, not elitism, just 100% realism.

Got it. So it is elitism, with a bit of spite mixed in.
I knew Leica owners could be camera snobs, but this is the first I've heard of in the Canon realm. I've never seen a Rebel user or anyone else snobbed among Canon users (as that's how most of us started), so this is a sad first. I mean that 100% for real.
 
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mackguyver said:
Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
Skirball said:
Kwanon said:
I hope none of these new functions make it to 5D III and 7D, 7D II.

Now there is an even bigger gap between PRO and advanced cameras.

(yes, even TIPA and EISA categorise the 5D III as an advanced camera)

I'm curious to know your line of thinking behind this. Is it just spite, or elitism, or is there an actual rational thought behind it?

I don't try to be smart. I just like the 1D X and just sayin' it' far superior to any other Canon camera.

No need to request features or new 5D or 7D. The perfect camera is already here.

Not spite, not elitism, just 100% realism.

Got it. So it is elitism, with a bit of spite mixed in.
I knew Leica owners could be camera snobs, but this is the first I've heard of in the Canon realm. I've never seen a Rebel user or anyone else snobbed among Canon users (as that's how most of us started), so this is a sad first. I mean that 100% for real.

Well, the cameras are pretty much the same across Canon's amateur lines, Rebel to 5d3. Those cameras are like 25% real, 28% tops.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Canon1 said:
caruser said:
Am I going crazy, or are they finally giving us a true Auto-ISO in M with exposure compensation?!?!?

That's a pleasant surprise!

You already had this. (At least my 5d3 has it. I assume 1dx does as well)

Sorry to add confusion to the thread. Didn't see the "M"anual in the original thread. Stupid phone.

Please explain how the 5DIII has this...

The idea behind this feature is that you can select an aperture and shutter speed, let the camera choose the ISO to provide a metered exposure, AND apply exposure compensation to adjust the exposure via ISO, on the fly to suit the scene (e.g. a bird in flight with a bright sky background, the metered exposure will underexpose the bird, and applying EC would be a fast fix). Currently, no Canon camera offers this capability (although something similar can be achieved on 1-series bodies with a somewhat kludgy workaround).
 
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"In Evaluative metering mode, the metering is always weighted toward the selected AF point. That's true on the 1D X, it's true on a Rebel/xxxD.

What the 1-series bodies have that lower bodies do not is Spot metering linked to the AF point."

Thanks, neuroanatomist. I never knew this was a fact, but after reading your reply, I did find an article on Imaging Resource confirming what you wrote.

I've often metered off of a face (while in evaluative mode), then recomposed to put, say, a corner AF spot on the face, and gotten unexpected results. Finally knowing what is happening should be a big help.

Thank so much for contributing helpful replies and info as often as you do.
 
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YuengLinger said:
"In Evaluative metering mode, the metering is always weighted toward the selected AF point. That's true on the 1D X, it's true on a Rebel/xxxD.

What the 1-series bodies have that lower bodies do not is Spot metering linked to the AF point."

Thanks, neuroanatomist. I never knew this was a fact, but after reading your reply, I did find an article on Imaging Resource confirming what you wrote.

I've often metered off of a face (while in evaluative mode), then recomposed to put, say, a corner AF spot on the face, and gotten unexpected results. Finally knowing what is happening should be a big help.

Thank so much for contributing helpful replies and info as often as you do.

You might find Spot metering (center of frame) or Evaluative metering plus AE Lock to be useful in that situation. That way, you can lock both focus and exposure based on your intended subject, and then recompose for your final shot.
 
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Today when I dropped off my camera at Canon service center, I asked them to update the firmware for me. So it is done. But when I try the following "viewfinder can now be illuminated in red with a half-press of the shutter in AI Servo AF mode, for easy viewing of the selected point."

www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/standard_display/EOS1DX_firmware

I tried that in AI Servo mode, pressed halfway but don't see and red dots on the view finder.

I don't see what they mentioned " Three choices will be selectable from the menu system: Non-illuminated, Illuminated (Normal) and Illuminated (Brighter). ".

Am I blind or something? Can someone let me know what i did wrong. I thought all these are in the latest firmware.
 

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