New EF 24-105 f/4L IS Replacement Coming With 5D Mark IV [CR3]

[EOS-1DX Mark II]

What do you think about the filter size? My guess is 82 mm.

 

[rrcphoto]

how many will cry bloody murder with it going back up to a $1300 MSRP, and cry that canon should sell a brand new one for the same price as a white boxed gray market ebay copy of the old one?

 

[RGF]

What is Power Zoom PZ-E1?

 

[rrcphoto]

That's some unexpected news indeed. And CR3??? Wow!

An EF 24-105 f/4L IS successor would be really welcome, at least to me. But I really pray that Canon didn't mess it up (for me). So please:
- a real successor (L worth, improved IQ, etc.)
- no nano USM
- no power zoom doc

why would you not want nano USM?

it's essentially a linear motor drive USM with the same speed as regular USM but smooth racking for video.

 

[unfocused]

how many will cry bloody murder with it going back up to a $1300 MSRP, and cry that canon should sell a brand new one for the same price as a white boxed gray market ebay copy of the old one?

Lots of people on this forum, I'm sure.

Personally, I think $1,300 may be optimistic. I'd guess somewhere between $1,400 and $1,600. But, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Maximilian]

That's some unexpected news indeed. And CR3??? Wow!

An EF 24-105 f/4L IS successor would be really welcome, at least to me. But I really pray that Canon didn't mess it up (for me). So please:
- a real successor (L worth, improved IQ, etc.)
- no nano USM
- no power zoom doc

why would you not want nano USM?

it's essentially a linear motor drive USM with the same speed as regular USM but smooth racking for video.

I recognized nUSM as a not so powerful and not so fast solution of USM. (no personal experience)
And I realized that linear motors are not always good with optical elements, see the reviews of Lens Rental here about Sony linear drives.
If I am wrong and Canon did it mechanically right, I'd take back this constraint.

 

[CanoKnight]

Holy Moses!

1) This is incredible. I've been so close to pulling the trigger on the old version, because it would make for a great travel zoom range, but hesitated because I was never in love with the optical performance of my old one. Hesitation and procrastination may have finally paid off!

2) What does this do to our little 24-70mm L f/4? I thought the 24-105 L refresh would never happen as it would cannibalize the very new 24-70mm f/4.

So the question becomes, will the refreshed 24-105mm zoom have the same optical (or other) compromises to create differentiation between these similar products? I doubt the pseudo-macro mode is enough to sway customers back to the little zoom with lesser reach.

With the quality of lenses Canon has been releasing for the past 6 years or so, it's hard to imagine them releasing anything less than a stellar performer in the L lineup. Especially with the renewed emphasis on resolution at the top end (5Dsr, 1Dx2, 5D4).

I'm intrigued to see what happens. But i suspect there is a strong possibility of this joining my kit soon.

My guess is a 24-120/4L at a higher price point so it won't cannibalize sales of the 24-70/4

 

[aceflibble]

Yeah, as I said on these very forums many months ago, a 24-105 f/4 update has been in the works for a while now, so not surprising to get confirmation that it'll be debuting with the 5D4.


The 24-70 f/4 won't be affected much as that still has the semi-macro feature which the 24-105 will never get, and it's a given that a zoom with less range is going to remain the optically superior one. I don't expect the 24-105 update will actually mean much beyond the newer IS system to get you an extra stop-or-so there, and possibly a little optical improvement to bring it at least in line with the Sigma 24-105 f/4, which currently beats it in every department.

 

[ehouli]

How successful has been the 24-70 f4 L? I don't see it as successful as the 24-105 f4L is/was. So probably Canon is taking the steps back and do what should have done I the first place: make an improved version of a lens that wasn't perfect but does a good job.

 

[clicstudio]

For a second I thought it was a 24-105 F2.8L :-\

 

[j-nord]

Nice this might be the lens I'm looking for! Hopefully, it's consistently sharp across the focal range unlike the 24-70 f4 (and the mki 24-105). Also, hopefully, the starting MSRP isn't ridiculous like the 24-70 f4 (went from $1500 to now $900 in a few short years).

 

[thepancakeman]

Slightly off topic, but my wife loves her Mk I 24-105L which just died. While I'm sure this lens is what she'd like as a replacement, she only shoots with a crop body. Is there a crop lens that can do a reasonable imitation of the 24-105 for less $?

Thanks!

 

[Dekaner]

This is good news. Echo what others have said - what happens to the 24-70 f4? (Yes, it will be cheaper, but I doubt you'll sell many once the 24-105 II is released.) My guess is that people have grown accustom to the $600 price tag on the current 24-105 and that updated pricing will come as a shock.

 

[ahsanford]

I think there's some egg on my face.

- A

 

[NancyP]

None of the EF-S lenses are weather resistant, therefore, not L. That being said, there are two optically very good Canon lenses out there, the 17-55 f/2.8 and the 15-85 f/3.5-5.6. I have the 15-85 lens, and it is a perfect travel/landscape/close-up (1:3.5) lens for those who don't need a fast aperture and do like pretty good IS (a generation or two more advanced that the 17-55). Another interesting and optically outstanding option is the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 (no IS though). For those who want a two lens do-everything combo, the Sigma 18-35 and the new Sigma 50-100 f/1.8 might be killer combo. Finally, if your interests include video, skip all of the above and pick a lens with STM drive (many Canon versions out there, the 18-135 STM is good and popular - STM and good IS are more important that minimal difference in sharpness for video use). Reviews summarized and linked here:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-General-Purpose-Lens.aspx

 

[NancyP]

The new 24-105 L IS II, if optically significantly better than the I, might be perfect for me for a general use lens on 6D. It would be a reasonably close equivalent of the highly useful 15-85 I use for crop.

 

[ahsanford]

What is Power Zoom PZ-E1?

It's the deck-of-cards-sized little brick that mounts on the Canon EF‑S 18‑135mm f/3.5‑5.6 IS (nano) USM that was released recently. It's a unit for more controlled/quiet zooming for video applications.

There's logic to the idea that the 5D4 kit zoom has this functionality offered as well.

- A

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

Slightly off topic, but my wife loves her Mk I 24-105L which just died. While I'm sure this lens is what she'd like as a replacement, she only shoots with a crop body. Is there a crop lens that can do a reasonable imitation of the 24-105 for less $?
Thanks!

Unfortunately there is no similar lens to 24-105L for an APS-C body. The closest thing is the EF-S 17-55mm F2.8.
Yes, the zoom is shorter and mechanical quality is not optimal. It could be complemented by great 55-250mm STM.

There is also great (but dark) 15-85mm F3.5-5.6.

 

[ahsanford]

None of the EF-S lenses are weather resistant, therefore, not L. That being said, there are two optically very good Canon lenses out there, the 17-55 f/2.8 and the 15-85 f/3.5-5.6. I have the 15-85 lens, and it is a perfect travel/landscape/close-up (1:3.5) lens for those who don't need a fast aperture and do like pretty good IS (a generation or two more advanced that the 17-55).

It's amazing how folks rave about close focusing non-macro lenses, like the EF-S 15-85mm, like the 0.4x max mag of the Tamron 35mm Di VC, yet no one seems to talk at all about the absurdly impressive 0.7x reproduction in an L zoom!. The 24-70 f/4L IS has this feature and it's wonderful -- it's the best do-it-all lens I've seen in that regard.

- A

 

[Random Orbits]

So the rumor is that the replacement for the 24-105L will be released the same time as the 5D IV, but wouldn't it make sense for Canon to include the 24-70L f/4 IS as a kit and to sell the 24-105 II on it's own? The price for the 24-70L f/4 IS has already dropped to "kit" value, and doing so for the new 24-105 doesn't make sense if it's IQ is better than the original L.