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New EF-M Prime Likely Coming Ahead of CP+ [CR2]

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We’re told that there are two new EF-M lenses slated for release in 2018, and the first one will likely come ahead of CP+, which begins on March 1, 2018.</p>
<p>We weren’t told the focal length of the prime, and we don’t want to speculate either. The second EF-M lens will be a zoom. Again, no focal length was given and this will come later in the year we’re told.</p>


<p>We’re expecting the <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/eos-2000d-eos-3000d-eos-4000d-eos-m50-registered-with-russian-agency/">already leaked EOS M50</a> to be announced at around the same time.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<p><strong>Purchase and rental options:</strong></p>
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<li><a href="https://bhpho.to/2DGygK8">Canon EOS M at B&H Photo</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pjatr.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJGRk5HSklCRkpOSkVN?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lensrentals.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3DEOS%2BM">Canon EOS M at Lensrentals.com</a></li>
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What zoom could they do?

the EF-M 11-22 is pretty much perfect at what it does.
the EF-M 55-200 is not a bad performer.

So unlikely to be ultra-wide or tele zoom.


The 18-55 was discontinued, but that size of kit lens is unpopular now (people want compact lenses) so the 15-45 and the 18-150 are perfectly reasonable for their target audiences.

Could we finally be seeing the 'pro' zoom lens, which I have heard will be something like the EF-S 15-85 in range and quality (ie it won't be a fixed aperture zoom) or perhaps just a replacement for the 15-45 with, maybe, a little more speed on the long end.

We've been waiting for primes since forever, I'd like to see a fast 35mm (f/2 or better).
 
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jolyonralph said:
What zoom could they do?
the EF-M 11-22 is pretty much perfect at what it does.

Canon recently patented an EF-M 9-18mm f/4-5.6. A zoom starting at 14mm FFeq would be an intereseting addition, particularly if it offers similar IQ to the M11-22.


jolyonralph said:
Could we finally be seeing the 'pro' zoom lens, which I have heard will be something like the EF-S 15-85 in range and quality

I could see a 15-85 variable aperture, similar in size to the 18-150, being a popular lens for the M series.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
I'm going to guess it'll be a 50mm prime with IS. Probably f/2, but maybe f/2.8 to keep the size down.

But...it could also be the recently-patented 9.5mm f/4 lens.

I doubt 50 mm as Canon has the EF 50 mm f/1.8 which works nicely with EOS M. About 30 mm Normal would be nice with a fast aperture.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
jolyonralph said:
Could we finally be seeing the 'pro' zoom lens, which I have heard will be something like the EF-S 15-85 in range and quality

I could see a 15-85 variable aperture, similar in size to the 18-150, being a popular lens for the M series.

A 15-85 f/2.8-4 would be even nicer! Combined with a 55mm f/1.8, it might just be enough to persuade me to part with my Fuji system. Now that the EOS M5 has dropped a bit in price here in the UK, it might be very tempting... how does it perform with the EF-EOS M Mount Adapter?
 
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Intrigued. Really curious about the prime but not too excited about the zoom. With the M3, the 22 f/2 was my most use lens followed by the 55-200. Liked the idea of the 18-150 but then I compared it to the 18-55/55-200 on TDP and passed even though some here use it and like it. Also passed on the 15-45 and kept the 18-55 for similar reasons.
 
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the 15-45 needs a re-work to a full pancake styled lens such as what just about all the competition has.

there's also pretty much a need for some good zooms 15-85 or a 17-55/2.8 for the mount as well, if it's going to mirror the APS-C DSLR line.

50mm 1.8 makes the most sense from a lens standpoint, should be easy for them to do. 35/2.0 would be another one.

can't see them doing the 9mm fisheye. too specialist for the mount.
 
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As there are already 22/2.0 and 28/3.5 available, the new 35/whatever would make this focal length range even more crowded. So my guess is rather for 40-50 mm region. Probably native pancake 40/2.8 or 40/2.0 or something like 50/1.8.
As for the zoom I would also guess 15-85 to come. It is a very popular lense on APS-C DSLRs, it makes sense to have it also for EOS M.
 
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Several additions would be welcome:
  • 15-85 or really anything that improves the IQ and focal length range of the 15-45
  • a real UWA, starting at 8 or 9 mm and going to ~20 mm
  • a "high end" general purpose zoom (a constant aperture f/4 or f/2.8 zoom with great IQ)

As for the prime, another pancake especially around 50 mm equivalent would be interesting. But, generally, that just isn't how I use my M body. It isn't used for specialty "prime lens" photography. If I want ultimate IQ, I grab my 5D. But, I would welcome quality additions to the lineup and appreciate that others want primes.
 
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Something like a 45mm or 50mm prime would pair up very nicely with either the 22mm prime or the 11-22 zoom.

So Canon might finally come up with a 50mm F2.0 IS! -- except that it would be EF-M. Of course, it would most likely be STM anyway, so that wouldn't be any good even if it was an EF. :) :)
 
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Reminder that the best-selling, by far, prime lenses for most mirrorless systems are pancakes. People should shelve their ideas for fast telephotos (or tele-equivalent) with IS. Something along the lines of a simple 35mm f/2 (or slower) is what the smart money bets on.
 
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jolyonralph said:
The 18-55 was discontinued, but that size of kit lens is unpopular now (people want compact lenses) so the 15-45 and the 18-150 are perfectly reasonable for their target audiences.

Could we finally be seeing the 'pro' zoom lens, which I have heard will be something like the EF-S 15-85 in range and quality (ie it won't be a fixed aperture zoom) or perhaps just a replacement for the 15-45 with, maybe, a little more speed on the long end.

When the original M came out I bought the kit with the 18-55 but I barely used it and it's been sitting on a shelf collecting dust for years.

I have a 1Dx Mark II and a G7x. I recently went on vacation and I wanted something in between those to take with me. I figured since I already have an EF-M 18-55 I might as well just get the M6 body only and slap the 18-55 on it.

I absolutely loved it and didn't have any complaints with the size of the lens. My biggest issue with the EF-M lenses is their variable aperture and generally being too slow on the long end. If there was something with more reach than my 18-55 and was either fixed or faster, I'd be all over it and I wouldn't really care about the physical size of the lens. For the most part anyway; I did take some shots with the EF adapter and 24-70 f/2.8 and that sort of bulk really starts to detract from the size advantage gained from a body like the M6 in the first place.
 
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