New Kit Lens Coming for EOS 5D Mark IV [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>We’re told that a new kit lens will be coming with the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV in August. It will basically be a full frame version of the EF-S 18-135 f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (nano USM) and will likely be compatible with the Power Zoom Adaptor PZ-E1. The lens may have appeared in a <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/first-eos-5d-mark-iv-leak/">post from earlier today</a>.</p>
<p>We don’t know the focal length at the moment, but we should find out soon.</p>
<p>More to come…</p>
<p><strong>*UPDATE*</strong></p>
<p>The new kit lens will in fact be an L lens with IS, likely a <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/new-ef-24-105-f4l-is-replacement-coming-with-5d-mark-iv-cr3/">replacement for the EF 24-105 f/4L IS</a>.</p>
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[Antono Refa]

There already is a cheap 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, what would be the point of another cheapo kit lens?

 

[kphoto99]

A 28-216 of the same optical quality as the 18-135 STM would be welcomed by a lot of people.

 

[jebrady03]

Let the lens-wishlists....

BEGIN!

 

[wockawocka]

I doubt this is correct. AFAIK the kit lens was the 24-105L

Non L series with a 5D4?

 

[lastcoyote]

I doubt this is correct. AFAIK the kit lens was the 24-105L

Non L series with a 5D4?

Yep that was my immediate thought too.
Non L kit lens, doesn't seem right to me.

 

[Sharlin]

There already is a cheap 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, what would be the point of another cheapo kit lens?

Well, there was also an EF-S 18-135 IS STM which was recently replaced by the nUSM, power-zoom-supporting version. No reason to think Canon won't do the same with the EF equivalent, seeing that nUSM seems to be quite superior to STM. And the new lens may well be longer than 105mm in the long end. The 28-135mm is 18 years old...

 

[LDS]

What an idiot I was spending so much money on this kit.

Surely one who buys such a camera with any subpar lens for it - just looking at the zoom range, for example - is an idiot. Idiots with deep pockets are good for sellers, thereby they have to account for them too...

 

[ahsanford]

I doubt this is correct. AFAIK the kit lens was the 24-105L

Non L series with a 5D4?

+1. This would also represent a non constant-max-aperture zoom for a 5D4 kit lens. Not buying it.

A non-L / variable-max-aperture kit lens with a 7.5x zoom makes 1000% more sense for the 6D2 and not the 5D4.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

What an idiot I was spending so much money on this kit.

Surely one who buys such a camera with any subpar lens for it - just looking at the zoom range, for example - is an idiot. Idiots with deep pockets are good for sellers, thereby they have to account for them too...

For every five people that roll their eyes at a 28-300L refresh, there's one person who gets really excited about it. Because peoples' needs vary.

I agree, a 7.5x kit FF zoom seems ridiculous (especially after they moved the 24-105L downmarket to that cheaper / non-L / STM version), but someone would want that lens -- perhaps 7D2 owners moving up to FF who love their current 18-135.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it's not entirely impossible. I just think if there's a place for a high-FL-multiple zoom with variable max aperture as a kit lens, surely the 6D2 warrants it more than the 5D4. I would have thought that the 24-70 f/4L IS would be the 5D4 kit zoom.

- A

 

[weixing]

I doubt this is correct. AFAIK the kit lens was the 24-105L

Non L series with a 5D4?

+1. This would also represent a non constant-max-aperture L zoom for a 5D4 kit lens. Not buying it.

A non-L / variable-max-aperture kit lens with a 7.5x zoom makes 1000% more sense for the 6D2 and not the 5D4.

- A

Hi,
Why not as long as the price of the kit is significantly lower than a L lens kit. If the optical quality is near L lens, I don't see why not. May be there will be 2 kits available: one with L lens for still photographer and one with this kit lens for videographer.

Have a nice day.

 

[ahsanford]

Hi,
Why not as long as the price of the kit is significantly lower than a L lens kit. If the optical quality is near L lens, I don't see why not. May be there will be 2 kits available: one with L lens for still photographer and one with this kit lens for videographer.

Have a nice day.

Sure, the price would be lower with a less expensive lens, but Canon typically doesn't go nuts with options here. There will likely be a body-only and a body + kit lens. I don't see them offering eighteen flavors to people. They'll let B&H, Adorama, Amazon, etc. kit items independently for the odd combinations.

My recommendation:

6D2 + 24-105 f/3.5-5.6 IS STM (or this new variable max aperture lens being discussed)

5D4 + 24-70 f/4L IS USM

- A

 

[gmon750]

I'm not sure what the hate is for the 24-105 lens. I got that lens when I bought my 5DM3 and used it solidly for a year, which then was replaced by the 24-70 and some fast primes. It's a great all-around lens. Not the sharpest when compared to lenses costing twice as much, but still a great lens. Take a chill-pill guys. I'd gladly recommend that lens for first-time buyers looking to get any FF Canon dSLR, even the 5Dm?.

 

[YuengLinger]

I'm not sure what the hate is for the 24-105 lens. I got that lens when I bought my 5DM3 and used it solidly for a year, which then was replaced by the 24-70 and some fast primes. It's a great all-around lens. Not the sharpest when compared to lenses costing twice as much, but still a great lens. Take a chill-pill guys. I'd gladly recommend that lens for first-time buyers looking to get any FF Canon dSLR, even the 5Dm?.

It could use an IS refresh to be up to par with recent generation L lens which have IS, but, otherwise, you are right. Can't stand the idea of no constant aperture, L or not. Ok--I settled for it on the 100-400, but the only other option in my price range was the prime 400mm 5.6.

Body only for many if this depressing [CR2] is true.

Like buying a new BMW and putting no-name retreads on it.

 

[wsmith96]

There already is a cheap 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, what would be the point of another cheapo kit lens?

To use the new nano USM along with the power zoom attachment.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

It makes sense to me, with dual pixel AF, a new lens that has smooth power zoom for video makers will be in demand.

Certainly, its not for everyone, but some will definitely want it.

I have not bought a DSLR with kit lens since my new 40D many years ago, and I sold that 28-135 immediately.

 

[scyrene]

Well surely those at the upper end, pros or enthusiasts, are coming from another Canon body and so will have lenses (unless they're all EF-S, in which case even a non-L new EF might be good enough for them), and so won't buy the kit. Otherwise, it's (somewhat wealthy) beginners - surely a fairly restricted number, starting out with a 5D series, but they'll probably want flexibility above all else. Just a thought.

 

[mrzero]

If it is a true mirror of the 18-135, it would be a 28-216mm or thereabouts. I would love something like that and it fits with the other rumor of a full-frame superzoom. Of course, I'd rather it start around 24mm, and I think many would agree with that. Many would also like a constant aperture.

However, from our past experiences with Canon, they will start a little smaller, so maybe a 28-135 or a 24-105 replacement here, specifically non-L and variable aperture. Either way, those would be great ranges and work well with the hopefully DPAF full-frame sensor that will be included in the next 5D and 6D models.

I don't see any reason that Canon couldn't go non-L on a kit zoom with the next 5D. It lowers the barrier to entry if this is a buyer's first full-frame camera and lens. Buyers who don't want the lens will go body-only anyway. In fact, if Canon was really aggressive, they'd bundle the superzoom AND the power zoom attachment with the body, just to get more of them out there and drive up the interest. I do agree, though, that this option sounds more suited to a 6DII than to a 5DIV, but what the heck do I know.

 

[AvTvM]

YES, YES, YES. Thank you innovative Canon! More stupid darko-low quality kit lenses is what we want and need. There are not enough out there yet. Please, please please innovative number 1 leading imaging company Canon, give as a 2016 version of the EF 28-80/3.5-6.3 ... we have been waiting sooo long for it!

stupid Canon.

 

[KeithBreazeal]

I'm not sure what the hate is for the 24-105 lens. I got that lens when I bought my 5DM3 and used it solidly for a year, which then was replaced by the 24-70 and some fast primes. It's a great all-around lens. Not the sharpest when compared to lenses costing twice as much, but still a great lens. Take a chill-pill guys. I'd gladly recommend that lens for first-time buyers looking to get any FF Canon dSLR, even the 5Dm?.

I've had the 24-105L for many years and take it on all shoots. I usually have it on the 5D III, but also the 5DS. While not the best lens in the world, it's a good performer. I think it's a great choice for a kit lens.

This crop from the 5DS holds up pretty well...

Canon 5DS / 24-105L Test / Bodie screen shot © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr