Nikon Releases Z 800mm at 1/3 Cost of Canon’s
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Yeah, they will produce and ship a skimpy handfull. So its a meaningless announcent.
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Embarrassing is the right word here for Canon. Honestly, those repackaged superteles and their pricing from Canon were just a kick in the teeth to their bigger spenders. Arrogance is another word that comes to mind; seems like Canon didn’t learn its lesson in humility after Sony ate its lunch for a while there—they are back to their old ways of overcharging and arrogantly releasing incremental improvements to get us paying more money over time. The creeping apertures, pricing, and lack of effort turns me off as someone who spent a lot of money to invest in the RF mount. Nikon’s playing catch-up and has a bold pricing strategy, understood, but they’re really exposing the gouging and ridiculousness of Canon’s strategy right now. Glad they continue to have some competition or we’d all be paying $30k for recycled EF lenses by now and chanting “high ISO images are no problem these days, thank you, Canon!” Gimme a break.
I shoot several systems and in general am not brand loyal, so I don’t really care for the brand wars, but Canon needs to get it together and treat their customers better here. My Canon budget is shifting to the Z mount, not by choice, but really it’s just the principle of the thing at this point. I don’t feel like Canon really gives a damn about me or my business. Nikon also offers a lot more for my money as a wildlife photographer.
And I don’t think we’re looking at a leapfrog scenario here; Canon is on a growing trend and I can’t even imagine them offering something like that 800PF at that price—no way will we see it. They’d cripple it somehow to avoid cannibalizing their larger $20k primes they want you to buy. And they wouldn’t undercut their own pricing strategy with all those superteles at those price points now—too late to go back. No, if you want high-quality in a small package from Canon, you are going to be paying big big bucks…their bar is set.
I shoot several systems and in general am not brand loyal, so I don’t really care for the brand wars, but Canon needs to get it together and treat their customers better here. My Canon budget is shifting to the Z mount, not by choice, but really it’s just the principle of the thing at this point. I don’t feel like Canon really gives a damn about me or my business. Nikon also offers a lot more for my money as a wildlife photographer.
And I don’t think we’re looking at a leapfrog scenario here; Canon is on a growing trend and I can’t even imagine them offering something like that 800PF at that price—no way will we see it. They’d cripple it somehow to avoid cannibalizing their larger $20k primes they want you to buy. And they wouldn’t undercut their own pricing strategy with all those superteles at those price points now—too late to go back. No, if you want high-quality in a small package from Canon, you are going to be paying big big bucks…their bar is set.
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$6.5k 800mm f/6.3 at less than 2.39kg. Making this weighing at the middle of a EF300/2.8 IS II & EF200/2.0 IS
It's (1) 1/3rd the cost at (2) 1/3rd slower f-stop at (3) 1/2 the weight of faster 800mm lenses.
Front element is equivalent to a 500/4.0
With ISO improvements of 2020s mirrorless bodies makes the 1/3rd stop slower largely a non-issue.
It's (1) 1/3rd the cost at (2) 1/3rd slower f-stop at (3) 1/2 the weight of faster 800mm lenses.
Front element is equivalent to a 500/4.0
With ISO improvements of 2020s mirrorless bodies makes the 1/3rd stop slower largely a non-issue.
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If one is on an internet forum complaining about the cost of extremely long lenses, they should be renting them. Most professionals earning a living shooting long lenses are searching for bargain prices
"In Nikon's favor" is an exageration without comparative facts. There are lens manufacturers that produce alternative lenses however not comparatively. The question to be answered would be, How much did Nikon discount it previous versions.
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Where do you see a "cheap" lens? I don't see any. Certainly not Nikon's 800mm.
And nobody, especially a professional photographer, has money to waste...
And I hope an intelligent company like Canon knows that learning a lesson from time to time is a necessity.
There is a nice French expression for what Nikon did: "un pave dans la mare", in English something like "they threw a cobblestone into the pond".
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Cheap because it a PF lense and most likely a lot of plastic molded on to the glass. However Nikon's PF lenses have traditionally come with a great deal of lens flare that had to be dealt with using work arounds. You get what you pay for. If you can deal with lens flare, go for it. Its a deal breaker for many.
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1/3 plastic molded onto the glass. Doesn't take a genious to figure out the savings. Guess the photographer can deal with the subsequent lens flare in post. Admin comes up weird pricing analysis. Whats the price of that added polymer and less elements? Probably should be way less than what Nikon is charging for it.
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I bunkered the money to get a state of the art big white as described for years now:
- switchable TC integrated
- light
- great IQ
- good close up performance
I turns out this lens to be black with a red ring. The prizing is OK, we get the adequate body including the lens within this prize range.
I would have thrown my money to a 400 with built in TC. And as a bonus this PF 800 as well. Now I have to check availability on the Nikon side.
Oh boy, Canon ....
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