Nikon's 2.300$ D750 said to best 5DIII

[East Wind Photography]

http://www.rossharvey.com/reviews/nikon-d750-review

Quite an excited review of the Nikon D750. Sample pictures look really great. Especially high iso looks impressive. Says he also worked with the 5DIII and that it does not compare for his work (weddings).

Agree with reviewer that Canon has work cut out for them selves trying to make the 5DIV competitive (either by slashing the price range or jumping the specs).

All the better for us that Canon is under stiff pressure to deliver this time around. This time there will no excuse that Nikon pulled a rabbit.

Well that D750 will only be king for about 6 months when the shutter starts getting sloppy and he finds that grease splatter on the sensor has ruined his 2000.00 wedding shoot. Personally I will never touch nikon again. Canon gear has never let me down. This case is closed for me.

 

[zlatko]

Quite an excited review of the Nikon D750. Sample pictures look really great. Especially high iso looks impressive. Says he also worked with the 5DIII and that it does not compare for his work (weddings).

If I were a Nikon shooter right now, there is no question I would be using the D750 — it's a great combination of size, weigh and features. However, he only made one photo that could not have been made with a 5D3 and it was that ridiculous nearly black 5-stop underexposed shot at ISO 100. The only point that proves is that some photographers are hellbent on making ridiculous nearly black 5-stop underexposed photos in order to convincingly prove that their camera is superior for making ridiculous nearly black 5-stop underexposed photos.

 

[Loswr]

Until I can look through a Nikon viewfinder and change ISO settings with my right index while also adjusting any other setting I need, I'm sticking with Canon.

Haven't you heard? With a Nikon camera, you don't need to change ISO – just set ISO 100 and you're done. In post you can push it to ISO 3200, with a SoNikon sensor that's easy-peasy and the IQ is still better than Canon. Or so I've read somewhere or other... :

Thats just messing with a hornets nest... LOL

That's probably his entire goal...

As opposed to the OP's purpose, which was.....purely to provide a bit of information which members of a Canon-centric forum would find interesting? Ummmm...not quite. :

 

[weixing]

Hi,
By the way, I just wonder is using carbon fibre for the front a good idea?? Carbon fibre is strong, but also will shatter under impact... I had seen quite a lot of drop camera and most of them the lens land first (especially with heavier lens) which mean the mount area of the camera will take quite a lot of impact... just wonder is the D750 front strong enough to withstand the force?? Will the carbon fibre front shatter?? I never see the front of any DSLR crack after a camera drop, so just wonder?? :

Have a nice day.

 

[jdavis37]

No issues or complaints with my 5D3.. before I bought it I rented a D800 after getting fired up over how messed up Canon was. I actually bought the on line hype but luckily a friend of mine suggested I at least try the 5D3. I rented both and on first shutter click and focus fell in love with the 5D3. The camera simply worked. Maybe some things were just my ignorance of Nikon but I could not find a way to give me BOTH 1 finger access to changing ISO AND 1 finger access to using exposure compensation. It seemed it was an either or thing.

Anyhow, good news is the competition is good for all of us and hopefully these companies wil continue building tools that we can enjoy. Here is a good article about the D750 written by Thom Hogan:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

John

 

[jrista]

Until I can look through a Nikon viewfinder and change ISO settings with my right index while also adjusting any other setting I need, I'm sticking with Canon.

Haven't you heard? With a Nikon camera, you don't need to change ISO – just set ISO 100 and you're done. In post you can push it to ISO 3200, with a SoNikon sensor that's easy-peasy and the IQ is still better than Canon. Or so I've read somewhere or other... :

You make fun of it...but it's possible. Because there is practically no read noise, digitally lifting ISO 100 to ISO 1600 or 3200 is effectively the same thing as actually using those ISOs (with the added benefit of having massively more dynamic range).

When you lift ISO in post, doesn't it chop down the DR?

Dynamic range is the space within which you perform the lift. It changes the contrast, but the dynamic range is your working space within which you change the contrast of your images. You pretty much have what you have when it comes to DR as far as editing latitude of any given file goes. If you are working with an OOC RAW, then your limited by what the RAW started with. If your working with an HDR, your limited by the results of your HDR blend.

 

[jrista]

The reviewer made note of how the high DR at High ISO is so huge. So did the D750 get a high ISO DR boost over the D3S?

From what has been tossed around over the past month High DR is a low ISO thing, I have seen many test examples that show DR dropping hard at higher ISO. D3S & D800 included...

Check out the A7s...it has good low ISO DR (over twelve stops), but it also has excellent high ISO DR (it tops the 1D X, meets or beats it at every ISO, with as much as a 2-stop lead at ISO 51200). The D810 also does extremely well at high ISO, getting very close to 5D III performance with smaller pixels.

I don't know how well the D750 does, but I suspect it will perform similarly.

 

[jrista]

Anyhow, good news is the competition is good for all of us and hopefully these companies wil continue building tools that we can enjoy. Here is a good article about the D750 written by Thom Hogan:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

I though Hogan's article was good, and pointed out some of the flaws I see in Nikon's product naming and marketing strategy. It's schizophrenic, haphazard...sometimes just weird. But, I think Tom missed one thing: Many D750 buyers will simply be D700 owners looking for an upgrade. He couldn't seem to find a position for the D750...I think a key part of it's position is the logical upgrade for D700 owners.

 

[Aglet]

Maybe some things were just my ignorance of Nikon but I could not find a way to give me BOTH 1 finger access to changing ISO AND 1 finger access to using exposure compensation. It seemed it was an either or thing.

Did you give up before looking at the menus? You can customize the controls to a great extent.

I have my d800s' rear control dial programmed to be direct ISO control and the front dial is for aperture in AV mode.
Press +/- button and rear wheel is EV comp. I think you can flip those functions as well, if you prefer.
And you can define the controls differently for different modes if you like, very flexible but not as intuitive as Canon's more defined default approach.

 

[ishdakuteb]

The reviewer made note of how the high DR at High ISO is so huge. So did the D750 get a high ISO DR boost over the D3S?

From what has been tossed around over the past month High DR is a low ISO thing, I have seen many test examples that show DR dropping hard at higher ISO. D3S & D800 included...

Check out the A7s...it has good low ISO DR (over twelve stops), but it also has excellent high ISO DR (it tops the 1D X, meets or beats it at every ISO, with as much as a 2-stop lead at ISO 51200). The D810 also does extremely well at high ISO, getting very close to 5D III performance with smaller pixels.

I don't know how well the D750 does, but I suspect it will perform similarly.

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b. http://blog.chron.com/techblog/2005/11/list-of-sonybmg-titles-with-rootkits/

note: that might be the reason why government stops using SONY...

2. In term of auto focus and shooting candid, any sony mirrorless is not a match to any DSLRs (canon, nikon, etc...). i am talking about single auto focus point, not all at once.
3. a7s has problems with bright light sources according to what i know from a friend of mine (note: have not used this one, a7s, but did play around with a7 for around 4 hours just for fun and i personally do not like it.)
4. if sony produce good sensors, it would not try to go out and acquire number of sensor manufactures, the recent one is renesas tsuruoka fab.

...JUST A THOUGHT FOR A COMPANY THAT PROVIDES SPYWARE & ROOTKIT

 

[JohanCruyff]

Anyhow, good news is the competition is good for all of us and hopefully these companies wil continue building tools that we can enjoy. Here is a good article about the D750 written by Thom Hogan:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

I though Hogan's article was good, and pointed out some of the flaws I see in Nikon's product naming and marketing strategy. It's schizophrenic, haphazard...sometimes just weird. But, I think Tom missed one thing: Many D750 buyers will simply be D700 owners looking for an upgrade. He couldn't seem to find a position for the D750...I think a key part of it's position is the logical upgrade for D700 owners.

As far as I know, many Nikonians don't consider the D750 the real successor of their beloved D700: it's more a kind of "D620".
Which is not necessarily a bad thing, IMO.

 

[tomscott]

Ive shot hundreds of weddings with my 5DMKIII and i push the files pretty hard never 5 stops because if you need to do that sort of editing you shouldn't be shooting someones wedding day. I have never had a problem with the files intact it puts a smile on my face at how good it is. SO IMO this camera must be insane and its really exciting to see what Canon will do!

I can't see myself leaving Canon, the 5DMKIII is still a very impressive camera and has plenty of life left in it.

 

[janmaxim]

Is it only me? Or am I the only one prefering the SOOC pictures in the review compared to the post processed ones?

 

[dtaylor]

Yup. The pricing of the D750 shows just how much price gouging Canon has been involved in with the 5D3.

In fairness there are plenty of complaints from the Nikon crowd that the D750 has a more consumer UI and build. I've never heard anyone say that about the 5D3.

Still, what was a fair price years ago is looking too high against today's competition.

 

[Loswr]

Anyhow, good news is the competition is good for all of us and hopefully these companies wil continue building tools that we can enjoy. Here is a good article about the D750 written by Thom Hogan:

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

I though Hogan's article was good, and pointed out some of the flaws I see in Nikon's product naming and marketing strategy. It's schizophrenic, haphazard...sometimes just weird. But, I think Tom missed one thing: Many D750 buyers will simply be D700 owners looking for an upgrade. He couldn't seem to find a position for the D750...I think a key part of it's position is the logical upgrade for D700 owners.

As far as I know, many Nikonians don't consider the D750 the real successor of their beloved D700: it's more a kind of "D620".
Which is not necessarily a bad thing, IMO.

Possibly jrista was taken in by the name of the D750 as a successor to the D700 (I was, at first). Hogan's view that the D750 isn't a D700 successor is echoed by the Nikon shooters I've spoken with – including several pros using D700 bodies.

Their complaints included things like the D750's lack of a PC sync port (means needing to buy hotshoe RF flash triggers, bummer Nikon lacks Canon's -RT flash system), the lesser build quality, the 'consumer' remote port (not sure if there's a functional difference, or it's like Canon's -E3 vs -N1 plugs and means currently owned remotes aren't compatible). They weren't really bothered by the drop from 8 to 6.5 fps. The general feel was that the D750 was a consumer camera, not a pro camera. One commented (a little bitterly) that maybe Nikon thought including a Full Auto (green-square) mode made up for dropping the pro features...

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Until I can look through a Nikon viewfinder and change ISO settings with my right index while also adjusting any other setting I need, I'm sticking with Canon. All digital cameras are capable of capturing a quality image. I just like USING Canon cameras better.

Just program one of the function buttons you don't use to ISO and there you are. On the D800 the video record button can easily be programmed for ISO for example.

 

[AvTvM]

D750 really is what D600/D610 should have been from the very start.
And 5D III is only what the 5D II should have been from the very start.

Both D750 and 5DIII are just iterations of mid-level FF sensored mirrorslappers with finally a halfway decent AF system built in. Plus current day comms (WiFI, GPS) in case of the Nikon D750.

Severly marketing crippled DSLRs like 6D and D610 should and will soon be available at € 999,- ... more than adeqaute for "digital ff rebels", nothing more.

 

[zlatko]

Ive shot hundreds of weddings with my 5DMKIII and i push the files pretty hard never 5 stops because if you need to do that sort of editing you shouldn't be shooting someones wedding day. I have never had a problem with the files intact it puts a smile on my face at how good it is.

I agree! One only shoots 5-stops underexposed if one has a point to prove about sensors.

 

[zlatko]

Is it only me? Or am I the only one prefering the SOOC pictures in the review compared to the post processed ones?

Me too. The processed ones have that now familiar over-cooked SHADOWS BRIGHT look sometimes evident in the work of Nikon & Sony users who are really determined to make a point about their sensors.

 

[Loswr]

Is it only me? Or am I the only one prefering the SOOC pictures in the review compared to the post processed ones?

Me too. The processed ones have that now familiar over-cooked SHADOWS BRIGHT look sometimes evident in the work of Nikon & Sony users who are really determined to make a point about their sensors.

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